The battery grip for the 10D...

[kafene]

It HOLDS two batteries, correct? I mean, it doesn't LAST AS LONG AS, or about the size of, but rather, you put two of the batteries into the grip. I just want to make sure before getting it.

Thanks!
kafene.

[defordphoto]

Two batteries go in the grip. They are used by the camera sequentially. IMO it's must buy for the 10D. So yeah, purchase an extra battery so you can fill both holes.

[Belmondo]

----and it works just fine with a single battery in it, too.

There's a clever little slot built into the top of it to hold the battery door cover which must be removed in order to install the battery grip on the camera. Others have used the slot to store a spare CF card.

[iwatkins]

----and it works just fine with a single battery in it, too.


With just one battery fitted, I keep my sandwiches and a couple of cans of beer in the other compartment. Honest. :wink:

Cheers

Ian

[Belmondo]

With just one battery fitted, I keep my sandwiches and a couple of cans of beer in the other compartment. Honest. :wink:

Cheers

Ian

Who can doubt you? Not I.

[BobbyC]

You can also use the extra space to hide your weed :shock: 8)

[defordphoto]

Beware of Al Qaeda terrorists with BigEds! You'll never know what they have in there!!

[CyberDyneSystems]

You can also use the extra space to hide your weed :shock: 8)

Dude,. you were one step ahead of me with that one!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :shock:

[msnow]

You can also use the extra space to hide your weed :shock: 8)

Dude,. you were one step ahead of me with that one!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :shock:

I don't smoke weed anymore (my eyes were always at f22) but I think BigEd is definately a must get.

[defordphoto]

You can also use the extra space to hide your weed :shock: 8)

Dude,. you were one step ahead of me with that one!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :shock:

I don't smoke weed anymore (my eyes were always at f22) but I think BigEd is definately a must get.

Yeah, but with a nickname like msnow, I bet you keep your cocaine in there eh? ;)

[msnow]

You can also use the extra space to hide your weed :shock: 8)

Dude,. you were one step ahead of me with that one!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :shock:

I don't smoke weed anymore (my eyes were always at f22) but I think BigEd is definately a must get.

Yeah, but with a nickname like msnow, I bet you keep your cocaine in there eh? ;)

Nope, don't do that anymore either. I'm not quite as old as belmondo (few are :D ) but I am a child of the sixties. That "snow" stuff put my eyes at a permanent "f1" :shock:

[PGR70]

He, I just got out of the bed in my BigEd and I can testify that it is also a very good place to take shelter... Definitely a must buy... :)

No really, it is great because the 10D feels more solid and I have a better grip with my (rather large) hands. You also have controls & grip for vertical shots... handy...

[samdring]

----and it works just fine with a single battery in it, too.


With just one battery fitted, I keep my sandwiches and a couple of cans of beer in the other compartment. Honest. :wink:

Cheers

Ian

...and that superb Giottos as well?

[defordphoto]

Nope, don't do that anymore either. I'm not quite as old as belmondo (few are :D ) but I am a child of the sixties. That "snow" stuff put my eyes at a permanent "f1" :shock:

Yeah. I have that t-shirt too. ;)

[timmyquest]

When i get a 550EX would i be able to plug that into a batter grip to allow fast (perhaps instant) flash recharge?

Or (off topic) how fast does it recharge on the 4 AA's

[defordphoto]

When i get a 550EX would i be able to plug that into a batter grip to allow fast (perhaps instant) flash recharge?

Or (off topic) how fast does it recharge on the 4 AA's

No, but there are skads of options for alternative power. The 550EX recycles in 1-2secs with fresh batteries. It's all downhill after that. If you get a high-power external battery then the recycle times with drop, but they're pretty pricey.

[timmyquest]

When i get a 550EX would i be able to plug that into a batter grip to allow fast (perhaps instant) flash recharge?

Or (off topic) how fast does it recharge on the 4 AA's

No, but there are skads of options for alternative power. The 550EX recycles in 1-2secs with fresh batteries. It's all downhill after that. If you get a high-power external battery then the recycle times with drop, but they're pretty pricey.

I'm just thinking about the 2.5 fps and football with my 300D, the mroe i learn i'm glad i didnt use the 9 frame buffer as a justification for the 10D

[Jim Larson]

Two batteries go in the grip. They are used by the camera sequentially. IMO it's must buy for the 10D. So yeah, purchase an extra battery so you can fill both holes.

:idea: Are you sure? :?:

I was under the strong impression that the batteries are used in parrallel. If you put in a fresh battery and a dead battery and go shooting, pretty soon you will have two slightly-under-half-charged batteries.

I do not consider the grip a must buy. It is an ergonmics decision only.

It is much easier to carry the second battery in your pocket than strapping on a grip to have both batteries in your camera.

BTW: I can take 200-300 raws with a single battery. How many flash cards are you carrying with you, if you feel the need for dual batteries?

[Morden]

Two batteries go in the grip. They are used by the camera sequentially. IMO it's must buy for the 10D. So yeah, purchase an extra battery so you can fill both holes.

:idea: Are you sure? :?:

I was under the strong impression that the batteries are used in parrallel. If you put in a fresh battery and a dead battery and go shooting, pretty soon you will have two slightly-under-half-charged batteries.

I do not consider the grip a must buy. It is an ergonmics decision only.

It is much easier to carry the second battery in your pocket than strapping on a grip to have both batteries in your camera.

BTW: I can take 200-300 raws with a single battery. How many flash cards are you carrying with you, if you feel the need for dual batteries?

Some good points made here, but I for one value my "Big Ed" grip; the (obviously) better grip - especially in portrait orientation, the second set of controls - again for portrait orientation, and the second battery all add to the usefulness of my 10D. Additionally, the camera definiely looks more "pro" with the grip attached! :D

By the way, the two batteries are used in sequence; when the first one (the left hand one, I believe) is exhausted, the camera switches to the second battery. The point about getting hundreds of shots from just a single battery is a good one, but I still enjoy knowing that my camera body is never likely to run short of battery power when I am out (or in) with it.

[CyberDyneSystems]

The use of the two batteries seems to be open to some question.

The Manual claims sequential,. but many of us feel that they get used in parallel.

It seems to me i remeber it is somewhat more complex than either answer... but I could be incorrect.

Here is how I remeber it,

When two batteries are installed,. the one with the most charge is drained fisrt,. this is untill the two end up equal in there charge,. at which point it will drain them equally. (in parallel)

My expeirence seems to confirm this as any time I use the Big-ED both batteries are drained equally.

[BobbyC]

I know I've had one dead battery in it and it did not become half charged in the grip. I tried in vein to get through Canon's goofy site for the specs but couldn't find any.

It is real easy to just change batteries, but IMO the camera is just so much more blanaced feeling, particularly in portrait mode, that I just can't hardly stand to use the camera without it. I've always had one on my film cameras as well so maybe I was just already used to it.

BTW - Number of shots is not the only factor in battery usage, how much you use the LCD is also a factor.

[Morden]

The Manual claims sequential,. but many of us feel that they get used in parallel.

Here is how I remeber it,

When two batteries are installed,. the one with the most charge is drained fisrt,. this is untill the two end up equal in there charge,. at which point it will drain them equally. (in parallel)

My expeirence seems to confirm this as any time I use the Big-ED both batteries are drained equally.
Interesting. I admit that my "information" was based on what the manual has to say; I have never yet flattened the batteries whilst using the grip. Perhaps, technically, both versions are in some way true. Consider that, if the camera ALWAYS uses the battery with the greater charge, then this choice may change once the battery that initially held more charge was drained to a level significantly less than the other battery. I.e. the camera may swap to and fro between the two batteries. This sounds a little daft to me, but as long as it works, I don't care!

[dtrayers]

CDS is right...

Here's a post of this parallel vs. sequential question on Rob Galbraith's forum and answered by Chuck Westfall:
link (http://www.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=158825&page=&view=&sb=5&o =&vc=1)

[figment]

http://figment.smugmug.com/photos/1191546-M.jpg
I bought my camera in November and have shot over 2000 Large Jpeg images with it. About 1950 of these with the grip. I have yet to recharge it and the battery meter still reads full.

[iwatkins]

With just one battery fitted, I keep my sandwiches and a couple of cans of beer in the other compartment. Honest. :wink:

...and that superb Giottos as well?

Hi Sam,

Can get the Giottos is, but I have to the ball head off and eat one of the sandwiches first :wink:

Cheers

Ian

[iwatkins]

I bought my camera in November and have shot over 2000 Large Jpeg images with it. About 1950 of these with the grip. I have yet to recharge it and the battery meter still reads full.


Even with two batteries, I can't see getting anywhere near 1950 shots. Are you sure :?:

Cheers

Ian

[JABACo]

http://figment.smugmug.com/photos/1191546-M.jpg
I bought my camera in November and have shot over 2000 Large Jpeg images with it. About 1950 of these with the grip. I have yet to recharge it and the battery meter still reads full.

Well dude, you've got some bad ass batteries. I can get about 800-900 shots using my BG-ED3 with two batteries.

What type do you have? Canon originals?

Bradley

[defordphoto]

800-1000 max is the norm using conventional CFs, no IS, no AI Servo or AI Focus. Doesn't matter if they're Canon batteries or not.

[ilya]

I bought my camera in November and have shot over 2000 Large Jpeg images with it. About 1950 of these with the grip. I have yet to recharge it and the battery meter still reads full.

Well dude, you've got some bad ass batteries. I can get about 800-900 shots using my BG-ED3 with two batteries.

What type do you have? Canon originals?

Bradley

That's what happens when you start cramming coke into your big ed. :shock: Super charged batteries. Though I hear its a real downer when it all wears off.

[Ballen Photo]

I bought my camera in November and have shot over 2000 Large Jpeg images with it. About 1950 of these with the grip. I have yet to recharge it and the battery meter still reads full.

Well dude, you've got some bad ass batteries. I can get about 800-900 shots using my BG-ED3 with two batteries.

What type do you have? Canon originals?

Bradley

That's what happens when you start cramming coke into your big ed. :shock: Super charged batteries. Though I hear its a real downer when it all wears off.

ROFLMAO!!!
........Bruce

[Canuck]

The use of the two batteries seems to be open to some question.

The Manual claims sequential,. but many of us feel that they get used in parallel.

It seems to me i remeber it is somewhat more complex than either answer... but I could be incorrect.

Here is how I remeber it,

When two batteries are installed,. the one with the most charge is drained fisrt,. this is untill the two end up equal in there charge,. at which point it will drain them equally. (in parallel)

My expeirence seems to confirm this as any time I use the Big-ED both batteries are drained equally.

Ok, that being the case, how come I end up w/ one battery that need the full 90 min to charge and the other one takes a few min to bring back up to full charge. I mean steady light by full charge. I think it is the left one that bites the dust first. Just my experience...

[defordphoto]

That's what I've run into also Canuck. When we're out at the tracks and then come back home or to the motel room I charge all discharged, or partially discharged batteries.

I've never paid attention to which one, but when I charge the ones in the camera, one battery is always very significantly discharged than the other, unless I have run them both down.

[figment]

Well dude, you've got some bad ass batteries. I can get about 800-900 shots using my BG-ED3 with two batteries.

What type do you have? Canon originals?

BradleyYes, they seem to work best. I've had less luck with other brand batteries although I'm told they're all made in the same place.

I have not even had the chance to use this yet :)

http://www.digitalcamerabattery.com/mproducts/detail.php?category=Products&manu=Battery%20Models &id=2

[Qurlyjoe]

I got a bigEd because I was gonna be shooting in the Rockies, in cold weather, and didn't want to keep changing the batteries. What I forgot to check for was whether it would get in the way of the Kirk lens mount I need for the Tokina 80-400 zoom I like to use, or vice-versa.

It did. So with BigEd attached, I can't use the Tokina. Bummer. Other than that, I like the whole 10D package.

[JABACo]

I got the BG-ED3 for all the sports action shots I take. Not so much for the extra battery, however that's a benefit, but for the extra shutter button it has. It's been a life saver.

Bradley

[JABACo]

Tonight I took 225 shots using my BG-ED3 with two batteries. I removed both batteries to re-charge and, one needed no charging what so ever and the other fully charge in about 15 minutes.

Just thought I'd let you guy's and gal's know.

[Roger_Cavanagh]

This (http://www.rogercavanagh.com/helpinfo/38_bp511.htm) is an amalgamation of several Chuck Westfall posts about batteries.

Regards,

[msnow]

This (http://www.rogercavanagh.com/helpinfo/38_bp511.htm) is an amalgamation of several Chuck Westfall posts about batteries.

Regards,

Roger--thanks and yes I have seen this subject discussed on your site as well as other forums but here's the one that causes the most debate:

"When two BP-511 battery packs are installed in the BG-ED3, the camera draws from the pack with the higher voltage level first until it equals the level of the other battery pack, then both packs are drained simultaneously".

I have personally tested this (as have many others) and if you charge both batteries to their maximum it "appears" to draw first sequentially (as the manual states) and THEN starts drawing from the battery with the higher voltage. At least that is what I have observed.

[Roger_Cavanagh]

This (http://www.rogercavanagh.com/helpinfo/38_bp511.htm) is an amalgamation of several Chuck Westfall posts about batteries.

Regards,

Roger--thanks and yes I have seen this subject discussed on your site as well as other forums but here's the one that causes the most debate:

"When two BP-511 battery packs are installed in the BG-ED3, the camera draws from the pack with the higher voltage level first until it equals the level of the other battery pack, then both packs are drained simultaneously".

I have personally tested this (as have many others) and if you charge both batteries to their maximum it "appears" to draw first sequentially (as the manual states) and THEN starts drawing from the battery with the higher voltage. At least that is what I have observed.

Presumably, at some point the charge in battery A get lower than B, and so the camera starts using B until the charge is lower than A and...

Unless the difference that triggers the swap is substantial, this surely comes to effectively using both batteries. Still I'm not sure why this should be such a big issue. Use batteries - charge batteries - use batteries - charge batteries... :D

Regards,

[Canuck]

That's what I've run into also Canuck. When we're out at the tracks and then come back home or to the motel room I charge all discharged, or partially discharged batteries.

I've never paid attention to which one, but when I charge the ones in the camera, one battery is always very significantly discharged than the other, unless I have run them both down.

Jim,
Cool, I was hoping someone else would post with similar findings. I have found this to be the case anytime I do some serious shooting. By that I mean more than a few here and there shots that I don't deem worth recharging the batteries for. I was noticing this when I was up in Wales first, then in Yorkshire and after many days shooting in York Minster and in around Hull using the flash a fair amount. I am thankful I have Big Ed!

[JABACo]

Thank you Roger. I was wondering about all of this myself.

[Canuck]

This (http://www.rogercavanagh.com/helpinfo/38_bp511.htm) is an amalgamation of several Chuck Westfall posts about batteries.

Regards,

Roger--thanks and yes I have seen this subject discussed on your site as well as other forums but here's the one that causes the most debate:

"When two BP-511 battery packs are installed in the BG-ED3, the camera draws from the pack with the higher voltage level first until it equals the level of the other battery pack, then both packs are drained simultaneously".

I have personally tested this (as have many others) and if you charge both batteries to their maximum it "appears" to draw first sequentially (as the manual states) and THEN starts drawing from the battery with the higher voltage. At least that is what I have observed.

Presumably, at some point the charge in battery A get lower than B, and so the camera starts using B until the charge is lower than A and...

Unless the difference that triggers the swap is substantial, this surely comes to effectively using both batteries. Still I'm not sure why this should be such a big issue. Use batteries - charge batteries - use batteries - charge batteries... :D

Regards,

It is all about observations, not that we're really bothered about it.

[Morden]

Presumably, at some point the charge in battery A get lower than B, and so the camera starts using B until the charge is lower than A and...
Hey, I said this on page 1! 8)

It would certainly explain what many people "see" in their battery behavior.