View Full Version : The next G series...........
roanjohn
7th of January 2004 (Wed), 16:00
With the PMA coming closer and closer, I want to see if anybody would participate in this purely speculative post on what you think would be the next upgrade to the G5.
I know its silly but its always interesting to know whats on everybodys mind and what crazy ideas they come up with.
Here is my guess:
5 megapixel
A wider angle w/ 5x optical zoom (28-140) f/2.2-3.5
Black
Image Stabilization
Pop-up flash
My dream:
6 megapixel using the same sensor as the 300d :shock:
Imagine?? You can't change the lens - but you get the same image quality as an SLR.
Whoever comes closest wins the "PSYCHIC" award come Febuary.
Ro1
:lol:
sdommin
7th of January 2004 (Wed), 16:20
An interesting question. We'll have to dig up this thread in a month or two to see how well we guessed. Here's my take...
I'm thinking that the G-Series body style has run its course. My guess is that Canon will come up with something that looks like the old Pro90, more of a "boxy" look than the rangefinder look of the G3/G5. Sony has the new 828; Minolta has the A1. Nikon & Fuji have theirs, too. It looks like that style is in "style" now.
I'd like to see a 5 or 6 mp CCD (no more than that, please!) with a super-sharp lens. Say 28-200mm or so (like the Sony). Keep the Digic processor and the feature sets of the G3/G5 (especially the unique things like the ND filter).
OK, someone else's turn...
Biko
7th of January 2004 (Wed), 18:05
Definately 6mp shades of black with charcoal grey rubber bits and some red, more optical zoom say 6x
I reckon Canon are already thinking the name "G6 is 6mp with a 6x zoom let's call it the 666" :twisted:
Nickname "the devil" :lol
John_T
8th of January 2004 (Thu), 01:47
I would love to see a cross breed between a G and a Leica Digilux2!
jglisson73
8th of January 2004 (Thu), 10:20
They gotta fix the optical viewfinder being blocked by the lens. I'd predict if they significantly redisign the body, they'll drop the G series name and come up with something new.
Keep the swivel screen
I'd predict 5mp
At least 6x optical zoom. They are a little lagging behind in that department (sony, nikon, fuji, and olympus all have 6x or more in the category)
Digic is here to stay with Canon Powershots...no way they'd drop part of their famed "digital trinity" too much invested in marketing
Find some way to fix the autofocus. Maybe go to a red instead of a blue-green contrast.
FIX THE PROBLEM WITH NOT INTEGRATING WITH THE 420EX!!!
Ok, this has turned into a wish-list as much as a prediction list!
John
jpmccormac
8th of January 2004 (Thu), 10:27
My guess is that Canon will come up with something that looks like the old Pro90, more of a "boxy" look than the rangefinder look of the G3/G5. Sony has the new 828; Minolta has the A1. Nikon & Fuji have theirs, too. It looks like that style is in "style" now.
I agree. An update of Pro 90 IS would be welcomed and compete against the A1 and Fuji Z series. Canon has great IS lens technology. The only negative is Canon may think that building IS into the camera/lens combo would detract from selling IS lenses for the DRebel and D10 series.
As for predictions, I'll go along with this 2004 Digital Predictions Site: http://www.bythom.com/2004predictions.htm
that says Canon will introduce a new DSLR between the DRebel and D10. I'd buy that one in a second
pradeep1
8th of January 2004 (Thu), 11:46
Here is my wish list:
1. 6 MP sensor...the 300D's like above. DiGiC Processor - keep.
2. Autofocus that is quick and fast.
3. Black Body.
4. Thread mounts on the front of the lens, so we won't have to buy
an add-on adapter to mount filters.
5. Keep the swivel LCD.
6. Ability to make use of 420EX flash's red light for autofocus.
4walls
8th of January 2004 (Thu), 12:56
Prediction:
G series will be replaced by new series...
What will stay:
DiGiC
hot shoe
black body
What will go:
internal ND will go (prediction, not a wish)
flip out LCD
remote
What will be new/improved:
body style (like high end Fuji), look like SLR w/o the interchangeable lenses
more rubber on lens and body
8X optical zoom
faster autofocus
6MP (just shy of the 6.3 in the Rebel)
pop up flash
threaded lens for add-on filters
increased AVI capabilities
Photoshop Elements
Pricing:
10-15% more than G5
stoneylonesome
8th of January 2004 (Thu), 13:41
They may stay with the 5mg or maybe go to 6, But I really think there going to jump on the optical zoom band wagon a try to get something upward to a 10x optical or at least something more than the 4x they have now. :lol: and like I said in this thread Canon is supposed to introduce 20 new cameras in 2004
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22630
JStone
8th of January 2004 (Thu), 14:07
I like the Pro90 spin on it...5mp, 6-8x OZ (starting at 28mm), IS, hot shoe, pc sync, articulating lcd, priced at $750ish.
Why would they release a model between the Rebel and the 10D? Who would it marketed too, the differences between the two would have to be so subtle (they should just do a 20D upgrade to replace the 10D and sell it at $1300) Though I also said why is Canon bothering with the Rebel G2 & Rebel K2 and they sell ok.
stoneylonesome
8th of January 2004 (Thu), 14:32
I like the Pro90 spin on it...5mp, 6-8x OZ (starting at 28mm), IS, hot shoe, pc sync, articulating lcd, priced at $750ish.
Why would they release a model between the Rebel and the 10D? Who would it marketed too, the differences between the two would have to be so subtle (they should just do a 20D upgrade to replace the 10D and sell it at $1300) Though I also said why is Canon bothering with the Rebel G2 & Rebel K2 and they sell ok.
I got a novel Idea why don't they come out with a G5 type camera priced more like film cameras say around $250 :lol: I think the prices they charge for these is way out of line. It's getting so you pay more for your camera than for your entire computer system :evil:
pradeep1
8th of January 2004 (Thu), 16:28
[quote=I got a novel Idea why don't they come out with a G5 type camera priced more like film cameras say around $250 :lol: I think the prices they charge for these is way out of line. It's getting so you pay more for your camera than for your entire computer system :evil:
Yeah, you are right, they do cost more than computers. But then, again that is what you get when everyone uses proprietary technology to do essentially the same thing.
I wonder when Microsoft will get into the digital camera market.
roanjohn
8th of January 2004 (Thu), 16:51
Prices are not going to drop with film cameras still in the market.
When film camera becomes obsolete (which is probably around 5 yrs), then we'll see a $250 digital SLR camera.
So digital replaced film............What do you think would replace digital??
If you can guess this......then you will be crowned "SUPER PSYCHIC" :-)
Ro1
John_T
9th of January 2004 (Fri), 03:21
Don't forget that a digital camera IS a computer, and that the image sensor in your digital camera is the equivalent of endless film. If you were to shoot film at the rate you shoot digital, your costs, including development and dead-end prints, would skyrocket too.
Digital still has high R&D costs which film has amortized long ago, so that curve still has a way to go.
Fact is that the people posting and lurking here represent maybe 10% of the market because the majority of consumers want P&S > prints and blame the lab.
roanjohn
9th of January 2004 (Fri), 21:18
Is this for real??
http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1073674311.html
I hope Canon doesn't board this bus........ :cry:
I'm still sticking to my predictions!!!
Ro1
submannz
10th of January 2004 (Sat), 04:38
Or just to annoy everyone here just change the colour again and make it 6mp. :lol:
sdommin
10th of January 2004 (Sat), 07:41
I hope Canon doesn't board this bus........ :cry:
Me too. Evidently, Sony fell into the "more megapixel" trap and the 828 is suffering some growing pains.
I think Canon could sell a whole lot of cameras by using less megapixels, but improving all the other aspects of their digicams.
stoneylonesome
10th of January 2004 (Sat), 09:53
Scott; I couldn't agree with you more, just give me a good 4 to 6 mg camera with a nice clean 8 to 10x optical zoom, with the ability to push the ISO to 800 without any loss of shapness and no noise and I'll be very happy. Oh Ya did I mention threads on the lens so you don't have to buy and adapter to put on your filters :lol: :lol:
jglisson73
11th of January 2004 (Sun), 12:25
I was in a Wolf Camera store yesterday looking to play around with a Digital Rebel or 10D (just for kicks...can't afford to upgrade from the G3 yet!)
The clerk said that the 10D was being discontinued and Canon was releasing a new 8mp dslr called the D80 in Feb or Mar.
Go figure!
John
jpmccormac
11th of January 2004 (Sun), 12:27
I was in a Wolf Camera store yesterday looking to play around with a Digital Rebel or 10D (just for kicks...can't afford to upgrade from the G3 yet!)
The clerk said that the 10D was being discontinued and Canon was releasing a new 8mp dslr called the D80 in Feb or Mar.
Go figure!
John
The BIG PMA trade show in Las Vegas is only 30 days away. Watch for lots of camera news then.
cityboy_ca
11th of January 2004 (Sun), 19:32
I wish Canon and Microsoft would both do the same thing... stick with a product until it works the way it's supposed to work (you know, the way it's advertised!) 8-)
On the Canon, fix the AF and make the 420 flash work with it properly, give me just a bit more optical zoom and then LEAVE IT ALONE.
roanjohn
8th of February 2004 (Sun), 19:15
Have to bring this up again!!! Who came closest??? We'll find out soon!!!
mookiemeister
8th of February 2004 (Sun), 20:00
I wish Canon and Microsoft would both do the same thing... stick with a product until it works the way it's supposed to work (you know, the way it's advertised!) 8-)
On the Canon, fix the AF and make the 420 flash work with it properly, give me just a bit more optical zoom and then LEAVE IT ALONE.
If companies make their product perfect that can't be improved, then they'll go out of business once everyone have one. :wink:
roanjohn
8th of February 2004 (Sun), 20:20
An interesting question. We'll have to dig up this thread in a month or two to see how well we guessed. Here's my take...
I'm thinking that the G-Series body style has run its course. My guess is that Canon will come up with something that looks like the old Pro90, more of a "boxy" look than the rangefinder look of the G3/G5. Sony has the new 828; Minolta has the A1. Nikon & Fuji have theirs, too. It looks like that style is in "style" now.
I'd like to see a 5 or 6 mp CCD (no more than that, please!) with a super-sharp lens. Say 28-200mm or so (like the Sony). Keep the Digic processor and the feature sets of the G3/G5 (especially the unique things like the ND filter).
OK, someone else's turn...
I think this one almost nailed it!!!
Ro1
digidog
14th of November 2004 (Sun), 04:15
Here is my wish list:
1. 6 MP sensor...the 300D's like above. DiGiC Processor - keep.
2. Autofocus that is quick and fast.
3. Black Body.
4. Thread mounts on the front of the lens, so we won't have to buy
an add-on adapter to mount filters.
5. Keep the swivel LCD.
6. Ability to make use of 420EX flash's red light for autofocus.
Thanks for pointing me to this thread Pradeep. I see everyone's been here already. Your wish list looks good to me! I'd probably settle for points (1), (4) and (5) along with 10x zoom and manual focus via the lens ring rather than by wire.
Daryl
pradeep1
14th of November 2004 (Sun), 12:10
One more thing I would add is for a tripod mount on the bottom that is with the centerline of the lens. This would aid in doing panoramic photography. The off center tripod mount hole screws everything up. :cry:
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