View Full Version : Self Portrait with homemade ring light
n.e.photo
25th of October 2006 (Wed), 23:52
Turns out self portraits are a real pain to do :) but I was bored this afternoon so I took a walk down to the basement studio to play with some lighting.
http://www.nathanelson.com/post/me1.jpg
kawter2
25th of October 2006 (Wed), 23:59
I like it a lot! I am a fan or ring light shots
Livinthalife
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 00:13
I like it! Well done, care to share the setup of a homemade ringlite?
COKE CAN
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 04:32
Awesome shot sir!
I like it! Well done, care to share the setup of a homemade ringlite?
And please drop some knowledge on us!
g-money
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 06:50
Nice Job, I like it. Is that a reflection of the ring lights I can see in you eyes?
song4themoon
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 07:41
great shot! Very well done!
zacwolf
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 09:28
ringlights make eyes so nice, im quite jealous
Rhinotherunt
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 10:10
The ring catch lights in the eyes really set this off! Makes him look even tougher! Well done!
redspyder
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 10:33
Nice shot, the ring worked well. Great composition for a self portrait.
henry_b
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 10:43
very good shot, i like the catch lights a lot
cleverer
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 10:46
Love it!
Khaos05
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 12:41
awesome shot...looks like something that should be on the cover of a rockstar's cd :D
laimis.s
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 12:59
great shot. how do you deal with focus when doing self portraits (without using remote).
n.e.photo
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 15:32
Thanks for the kind comments everyone :) As far as the setup for the homemade ring light I am putting a little something together to show its build, the only picture I have from it right now is this :
http://www.nathanelson.com/post/cara-ring.jpg
With my lovely model Cara giving me her best "Price is Right" pose to help demonstrate some behind the scenes shots from my first run with the light. You can see the pictures of her from this shoot in the Glamour/Nude forum here:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=228092
And to answer laimis, I had the camera set up on the ledge of a ladder with a box underneath it to give me the proper head height (I really need to invest in a tripod). I then focused on the chains and adjusted the focus back slightly to where I knew my face was going to be to keep the eyes sharp. After that it was a matter of setting the 10sec timer, walking to the chains, and waiting for the shutter :) I also had the DOF set to f/2.8 so I didn't have a lot of room for error in the focus, which can make it a pain in the ass, but I think the end result of shallow DOF is worth it.
Other posts involving Cara as my model can be found here:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=231592
and here:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=228541
locky
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 16:05
What bulbs did you use for the ring light? Thanks!!
Livinthalife
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 19:27
I wanna know all the details! lol brand wattage...lol I will definetly have to TRY to make one in the near future.
D. Craig Flory
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 19:37
A ring light has it's place for product photography, but not for people. It's the same reason that we look our worst, in a rest room, where there are lights all the way around the mirror. A face it's broadest in that situation and the same with a ring light. It also gives no direction to the lighting and a poor ratio. Also, the catch light in the eyes in not attractive at all. If any of you want to try a ring light, try it on some table top macro photography since that's what it is designed for.
n.e.photo
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 20:14
A ring light has it's place for product photography, but not for people. It's the same reason that we look our worst, in a rest room, where there are lights all the way around the mirror. A face it's broadest in that situation and the same with a ring light. It also gives no direction to the lighting and a poor ratio. Also, the catch light in the eyes in not attractive at all. If any of you want to try a ring light, try it on some table top macro photography since that's what it is designed for.
Ouch, now thats just vicious :) As far as looking our worst, I beg to differ, as would photographers like Paul Buceta and Ric Diaz (especially), who do unreal ring light work. Not to mention that the ring light is a major piece of equipment used in fashion photography, and one that is making a large comeback. There are different types of ring lights, some built for macro, some for fashion, I recommend reading up on a product before bashing the hell out of it :)
As for catchlights, some love it, some hate it, just like any other style of photography. If we all shot the exact same way what a boring world this place would be. I happen to like it, as with many other people, and I will continue to use it, along with some of the best photographers out there.
As for the rest of you that asked questions about the bulbs, I am currently using Sylvania 75W Daylight balanced light bulbs. If you do build a ringlight like mine you are going to need fast lenses. The 75W bulbs give me about 1/60th at f/2.8 but I love the shallow DOF look that it gives, so really the wattage of the bulbs is all about how much DOF you want in your pictures. Keep that in consideration.
Cybnew
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 00:18
Love the lighting!
aacmckay
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 00:50
A ring light has it's place for product photography, but not for people. It's the same reason that we look our worst, in a rest room, where there are lights all the way around the mirror. A face it's broadest in that situation and the same with a ring light. It also gives no direction to the lighting and a poor ratio. Also, the catch light in the eyes in not attractive at all. If any of you want to try a ring light, try it on some table top macro photography since that's what it is designed for.
Ouch....
I do not agree with that statement completely. While I think you're right that it can cause no direction to the light, I do think that a ring light makes an interesting catch light. Strobes still could be used to give direction to the light. I think that's why a lot of people have the ring light on a dimmer, so they can control it's brightness vs. the main strobes. The ring light is actually my favorite style of catch light at the moment. Oh well, it's all just an opinion anyways. It just seems that there's only two camps to the ring catch light. You love it or hate it.
Kelsey-Lee
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 01:12
Excellen shot! The focus is perfect, the effect created by the ring light fits the theme of the picture, (I love the chains) and your expression/pose is... awesome! Definately one for the portfolio!
fivestardc5
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 01:19
LOVE IT.. i want to try and build it
COKE CAN
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 01:44
A ring light has it's place for product photography, but not for people. It's the same reason that we look our worst, in a rest room, where there are lights all the way around the mirror. A face it's broadest in that situation and the same with a ring light. It also gives no direction to the lighting and a poor ratio. Also, the catch light in the eyes in not attractive at all. If any of you want to try a ring light, try it on some table top macro photography since that's what it is designed for.
I disagree completely
Livinthalife
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 02:05
As for the rest of you that asked questions about the bulbs, I am currently using Sylvania 75W Daylight balanced light bulbs. If you do build a ringlight like mine you are going to need fast lenses. The 75W bulbs give me about 1/60th at f/2.8 but I love the shallow DOF look that it gives, so really the wattage of the bulbs is all about how much DOF you want in your pictures. Keep that in consideration.
Thank you! So I guess if we wanted more DOF we could pop in some of those 3 step bulbs with different brightnesses if we are cheap. I got all kinds of ideas running through my head at the moment. Thanks for opening ANOTHER door into lighting.
elise1030
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 02:18
I love it! The catchlights give you an almost devilish look :D So are they just houselight bulbs? What is the diameter of the ring that your model is looking through?
D. Craig Flory
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 07:28
Hmmm, aacmckay made a very good point. If this was used, in addition to other lights, I may like it. As a main light source, I don't like it but would be very interested in seeing results on portraits with a key light in addition to the ring light.
MARKinCORNWALL
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 13:08
Great shot and composition
Crashoran
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 14:45
A ring light has it's place for product photography, but not for people. It's the same reason that we look our worst, in a rest room, where there are lights all the way around the mirror. A face it's broadest in that situation and the same with a ring light. It also gives no direction to the lighting and a poor ratio. Also, the catch light in the eyes in not attractive at all. If any of you want to try a ring light, try it on some table top macro photography since that's what it is designed for.
That's completely opinionated.
D. Craig Flory
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 16:01
I'd have to say that's the opinion of almost all pro portrait photographers. I can't speak for fashion photographers. As I said ... I'd like to see results with it along with a key light.
tania622
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 16:43
Well i'm no professional, but I love the picture
kawter2
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 11:18
I'd have to say that's the opinion of almost all pro portrait photographers. I can't speak for fashion photographers. As I said ... I'd like to see results with it along with a key light.
huuurrrmn
[scratches head]
KevC
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 20:21
Can't wait to hear more about the construction of the ringlight! Thanks!
DanteCaspian
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 21:25
A ring light has it's place for product photography, but not for people. It's the same reason that we look our worst, in a rest room, where there are lights all the way around the mirror. A face it's broadest in that situation and the same with a ring light. It also gives no direction to the lighting and a poor ratio. Also, the catch light in the eyes in not attractive at all. If any of you want to try a ring light, try it on some table top macro photography since that's what it is designed for.
What the hell?
ABrownPhoto
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 21:45
Your photo is awesome!
Your ring-light set-up is awesome
Please tell what kind of lights you used, as i think i'd like to make one of those!
mytwogirls
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 21:59
Very cool. I love the look of the catchlights.
Sam
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 22:04
This is one of the best self portrait shots I have seen here. Very creative and the ring light works great!
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