10D discontinued?

[G3]

I was at a Wolf Camera store yesterday and the guy behind the counter told me that Canon has discontinued the 10D. I hadn't heard that before. Anyone else heard anything like this, or is he full of it? I know that they shut a couple of production lines down to produce the Digital Rebel and the 10D was hard to come by for a while, but I didn't think they discontinued it.

[Belmondo]

Speculate to your heart's content, but save yourself (and others) some time by looking at this thread. It isn't that far back.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22549

The fact is, nobody knows for sure, but it's a safe bet to say that the 10D will be discontinued......someday. Who really cares when? It's a good camera now, and will remain so for a long time.

Tom

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[G3]

Yep..should have searched a little harder before I posted that question.

The only reason I was concerned at all is because after a product is discontinued they don't work so hard anymore on things like firmware updates, etc. My camera isn't going to just magically stop working when the line is discontinued or anything like that (I hope).

Hmmm..Ritz and Wolf are the same company now....I think there's a pattern here.

[Longwatcher]

Just a followup for this thread,
The only sane reason I could see to upgrade the 10D at this time is to allow it to use the EF-s lenses and I still think that would be a stupid reason.

The D60 was "discontinued" for at least 6 months before it really was discontinued for the 10D
Local stores said it had been discontinued as early as Apr 2002, yet I got a brand new one in July 2002. It was actually discontinued around November 2002 and replaced in Feb announcement, March release by 10D.

Based on trend analysis of Canon releases, most likely earliest 10D upgrade date is Sep 2004 release along with possible 1Ds upgrade.

On the other hand, Canon fabrication facilities are probably producing mainly 1D upgrade sensors right now with occasional batchs of 10D, 300D and 1Ds sensors.

when B+H is out of 10D cameras for at least two weeks, then I will maybe believe the 10D is discontinued. And as of 30 secs ago BH still had them in stock.

[Ballen Photo]

I cant answer whether or not the 10D is to be discontinued, but the supply of 10D's in Vegas sure seems to have dried up. A friend that has seen mine, plus he knows how much I like it, decided to buy one, but there's not one to be found here that we know of.
.........Bruce

[Jim Larson]

Just a followup for this thread,
The only sane reason I could see to upgrade the 10D at this time is to allow it to use the EF-s lenses and I still think that would be a stupid reason.

[snip]

Based on trend analysis of Canon releases, most likely earliest 10D upgrade date is Sep 2004 release along with possible 1Ds upgrade.


Umm, the other reason to replace the 10D would be to drop the price.

Also, my trend has
D30 product life: 1 year,
D60 product life: 1 year
10D product life at PMA 2004: 1 year.

[Mark_Cohran]

Given the history of Canon digital SLRs, the 10D will likely be discontinued sometime in 2004. So what? Your 10D will keep working, my 10D will keep working, and we will continue to produce photographs with a quality camera. Will the resale value of our cameras be reduced? Absolutely, but that's going to happen no matter what. I buy my camera's to use and to keep and I don't worry about how much they're worth a year after I buy them. You wouldn't worry about how much your Black & Decker table saw is worth if it's a discontinued model, would you?

I just don't get why people worry about this so much. Can anyone enlighten me?

[Belmondo]

I just don't get why people worry about this so much. Can anyone enlighten me?

It really isn’t much of a mystery; nobody wants to be the last person to buy a 10D and pay full price for it, especially if something newer, better, and cheaper is right around the corner.

I absolutely agree with you regarding buying cameras without thought to resale value---that isn’t why we buy them. In the grand scheme of things, these are consumer items…..not investments. If anyone is so lacking in commitment to the hobby that they feel a need to be able to unload their equipment for top dollar should they be overtaken by the urge to do so, then chances are, they’re better off not making the leap in the first place.

Buy it, use it up, buy another one. (repeat as necessary).
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[G3]

Who said anything about resale value? Did I miss something in the thread? The only reasons I mentioned it in the first place was that it sounded strange that it would be discontinued after such a short production run and I wasn't sure the guy at the camera store had his story straight...just curious to see if it was true, rumor, or whatever. I have no plans to sell my 10D and I'm not at all concerned about the resale value.

As I said before, the only thing that would concern me about it would be the fact that when a product is still in production, development continues and problems are fixed, etc. (such as the back-focus problems some people have with the 10D). When production stops, that deveolpment stops and they don't work on firmware updates and stuff like that anymore. That's not even a real big concern because mine is working fine.

I was just curious about whether there was any truth to it and if there was, what the speculation was for replacement models.

[Belmondo]

Sorry. I was really responding more to the previous post. Hope I didn't get so far off topic that it ruined your day.

Tom :wink:

[IanD]

Damn...my day is ruined :mrgreen:
Ian

[Jim Larson]

I just don't get why people worry about this so much. Can anyone enlighten me?

Who's worried? I'm SHOPPING! :lol:

[defordphoto]

Hmmm..Ritz and Wolf are the same company now....I think there's a pattern here.

Yes, there is a pattern. They're both dumber than stumps and know nothing of what they say. I asked a counter person what time it was and he said that time had been discontinued.

Ritz, Kits and Wolf are one step up from Radio Shack.

[G3]

Sorry. I was really responding more to the previous post. Hope I didn't get so far off topic that it ruined your day.

Tom :wink:

Nah...no worries.

My day was ruined WAAAY before this thread. :)

Actually I should have searched the forum before I posted the questions..I didn't realize a thread had already been started on this a while back.

[vsolanoy]

I thought about the 10D being discontinued when I bought it last month... then I thought about the reason I didn't buy the Digital Rebel. My primary reason for the 10D was I didn't want to have to support 2 different lens standards. If I buy a lens for the 10D, I want to be able to use it for my film SLR, something I wouldn't be able to do with the EF-S standard. I'm already supporting two standards by actively using my AE-1 Program and purchasing FD lenses when I find them.

So all in all, the only thing that would make me really upset is if Canon introduced a full frame camera at the same price... anything else, I won't really care for. Anyways, speculation I've heard is we won't be seing sub-$2000 full frame digital SLRs for quite some time... (I hope) :D

[JStone]

Well, Maybe Canon is telling Ditz one thing and the rest of us specialty stores something else...My guess is the Ditz salesperson was reading too many internet forums because no one from Canon has mentioned anything to us about the 10d being discontinued, though it wouldn't surprise me if it was. And, Canon just sent me more 10D's (any takers :wink: ).
As for resale value, if your buying something based on resale stick with houses, race horses and property.

[CoolToolGuy]

... then I thought about the reason I didn't buy the Digital Rebel. My primary reason for the 10D was I didn't want to have to support 2 different lens standards. If I buy a lens for the 10D, I want to be able to use it for my film SLR, something I wouldn't be able to do with the EF-S standard. :D

Glad to see you got a 10D, but just to clarify: At this point in time, the only lens that will not work on the film cameras is the 18-55, and that lens works only on the Drebel (not even on the 10D). The Drebel will accept all EF lenses, and it allows the EF-S lens to be used as well. The EF-S standard allowed Canon to produce a standard zoom just for digital to sel for $100.
It will be interesting to see if they expand the EF-S line. PMA is coming, stay tuned...

Have Fun
Rick

[vsolanoy]

Glad to see you got a 10D, but just to clarify: At this point in time, the only lens that will not work on the film cameras is the 18-55, and that lens works only on the Drebel (not even on the 10D). The Drebel will accept all EF lenses, and it allows the EF-S lens to be used as well. The EF-S standard allowed Canon to produce a standard zoom just for digital to sel for $100.
It will be interesting to see if they expand the EF-S line. PMA is coming, stay tuned...

Have Fun
Rick

Yeah... I guess I missed that in my post.

My logic at the time was that I just didn't want to compromise buying what appears to be the promise of cheaper EF-S lenses (at least according to magazine articles I've been reading) -- I'm a sucker when it comes to a deal.. so as demented as it may be, I thought if I buy the more expensive camera then I won't be tempted to buy lenses that I can't use on my film camera.

I still like film... so that was my logic... as strange as it may be :wink:

Victor

PS With PMA coming up, I wonder if Kodak's announcement for discontinuing film cameras for western markets will have an impact on consumer film cameras from other manufacturers.