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condyk
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 14:42
Ok, the bird is shown in macro-like close up to enable those who feel they have empathy for others to identify his/her current mood (birds are people too!!) There will be no clues and no correspondence will be entered in to. The winning fool will be announced when I have had enough beer ... could be some time :confused:

INSTRUCTIONS:

(1) You will look at the bird
(2) You will 'project' yourself into his 'shoes'
(3) You will check out the poll options
(4) You will decide which mood she/he is in
(5) You will select your own poll option
(6) You will think 'What the Duck have I just done that for?'

You want it any easier ... you are in the wrong thread :evil: This is for clever people who can follow instructions.

http://www.buzzdns.com/pigeon.jpg

ibdb
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 14:56
Be the bird. . .Be the bird. . .Be the bird. . .Be the bird. . .Be the bird. . .Be the bird. . .Be the bird. . .

I'll stick with my initial instinct.

Permagrin
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 15:07
I can't vote! I'd say

....ticked off because that isn't an L lens you're using for his portrait! :lol:

(you said to project myself :lol: )

and I still like the shot...but at the end of this, will you tell us why he looks like that? (Bad day at the feather dressers? or what?)

Tadpole
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 15:20
Wait for it, wait for it,.......wait ..... for....it,

BUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!! !!!!!;)

You do not wanna be anywhere near that bird.

condyk
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 15:27
... but at the end of this, will you tell us why he looks like that? (Bad day at the feather dressers? or what?)

I will if you vote ;)

Ronald S. Jr.
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 15:32
I didn't vote, but that's what all of my birds look like when they're content, tired, sleeping, or when I "tickle" them on their neck.

condyk
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 15:38
I didn't vote ...

Chicken :p

Rubi Jane
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 15:48
He's not depressed, he's p***ed at being in this thread ;)
But for voting sakes I'll say he's depressed.

Claire
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 15:49
I did vote it's all indigestion, but in all honesty I think he looks cold, depressed and on top of that has eaten bad curry! One of those days...

Condyk, you're bored, aren't ya? ;)

dewmuw
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 16:11
Can I add:

5: Scared - going to be part of a bad curry. (I've been to Birmingham too many times.)

Permagrin
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 16:15
Can I add:

5: Scared - going to be part of a bad curry. (I've been to Birmingham too many times.)

:lol: :lol:

TooManyHobbies
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 16:19
What made you start a thread like this? And you need another choice..

6) Whatever!

rklepper
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 16:38
I think that I would have rather voted agitated if it were an option, from the look of its ruffled feathers.

rklepper
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 16:39
Chicken :p

That does not look like any chicken we have around these parts.:D

rklepper
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 16:40
I already voted on the non-poll thread you started and thought the mood was about you.

dewmuw
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 16:40
That does not look like any chicken we have around these parts.:D

Ever heard of a Chicken Vindaloo? :D:D

condyk
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 16:52
What made you start a thread like this? And you need another choice.. 6) Whatever!

It was either do something fun or write a long and boring Sig :p

Can I add: 5: Scared - going to be part of a bad curry. (I've been to Birmingham too many times.)

The original Poll was rather longer and more stimulating but you only get 5 minutes to finish the bl**dy thing and so I lost it all :-( Scared would have been a good one tho'!

fishyone
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 17:34
I can't see his "shoes";) but I did vote anyway.

steved110
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 18:00
This bird is clearly unhappy. all fluffed up like that, it suggests he feels a bit grotty.

On the other hand - they also fluff up like this when they are pissed or horny....so depending on circumstances, he might be extremely unhappy....

Ronald S. Jr.
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 22:03
This bird is clearly unhappy. all fluffed up like that, it suggests he feels a bit grotty.

On the other hand - they also fluff up like this when they are pissed or horny....so depending on circumstances, he might be extremely unhappy....


Or, as I said, tired. I've had all types of birds all my life. When they want to mate, their tail will spread a bit, they'll bob their head, yes the feathers will be fluffed a bit, and the eyes pin. This is one of the most obvious of moods in birds.

Bob_A
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 22:22
I'd say depressed ... and it's thinking "if that bozo with the camera doesn't stop bothering me I'm gonna fly over and peck his eyes out!. Hasn't he seen The Birds ? ? ? Now shoo ... go away ... don't make me come over there!!!"

ibdb
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 23:03
When they want to mate...
If Ronald's right, maybe the 400 would be a better choice than the shorter lenses in your arsenal. ;)

saravrose
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 23:15
there's nothing wrong with the bird.. birds always look like that.. maybe he's slightly annoyed that he's a bird.. there is the potential curry situation weighing on his mind.. but, for now he's thrilled with getting his face immortalized on POTN..

sari

PacAce
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 23:21
That pigeon is just plain cold. Either that or he just landed the job of warming up a half-frozen ostrich egg.

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 08:36
I've had all types of birds all my life. When they want to mate, their tail will spread a bit, they'll bob their head, yes the feathers will be fluffed a bit, and the eyes pin. This is one of the most obvious of moods in birds.

You may need to consider that all the time you thought that your birds seemed randy they may been depressed. But then again you may have been right and they did want you :confused: :confused: I dunno!

Claire
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 10:54
Every time I see the thread title I keep reading "Spot the mod" and expect Dave to have cloned in various mods into an image.

saravrose
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 11:25
Every time I see the thread title I keep reading "Spot the mod" and expect Dave to have cloned in various mods into an image.

that would be fun....like where's waldo..

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 14:44
that would be fun....like where's waldo..

Eh? Who's Waldo?

Claire
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 14:59
Eh? Who's Waldo?

Kid's game.

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:14
Amateurs!
That's a chick-pic conundrum.:cool: How do you expect me to vote on those "Oh-I-am-so-bored-and-lonely" options. :cry:

It is patently obvious that the bird is looking at you with a binary expectation gleam in her eye:
<Mister, either feed me or procreate with me, for I am just a simple old bird who lives by the credo "tertium non datur".>

Permagrin
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:22
Peter I think that Avatar is affecting you...in a Dorian Grey way...

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:29
Peter I think that Avatar is affecting you...in a Dorian Grey way...
Don't say, fair Lisa.....you seem to have now switched sides too.....from the CaulkingKit's Cheers gang to Connie's Posse ?
Cherchez la femme !:(

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:31
Amateurs!

<Mister, either feed me or procreate with me, for I am just a simple old bird who lives by the credo "tertium non datur".>

To be or not to be, that is the question. If the Poll is too tough for you, if empathy ain't yer forte then, as i say in the instructions, butt out. Clever folks only ;)

Claire
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:32
Ok, who the heck is Dorian Grey.

Permagrin
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:32
Don't say, fair Lisa.....you seem to have now switched sides too.....from the CaulkingKit's Cheers gang to Connie's Posse ?
Cherchez la femme !:(

Never...
devoted as always my dear! ;)

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:34
Ok, who the heck is Dorian Grey.

Kids :rolleyes:

Never...
devoted as always my dear! ;)

Congrats. Thanks for sharing :p

saravrose
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:34
Okay guys... i'm finally gonna ask?.. what's with you two?.. Now, I don't believe for a minute that you really dislike eachother.. i'm just wondering what started this game you both seem to enjoy soo much?.... let's hear it.. come on.. fess up.. I won't tell..

sari

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:35
Ok, who the heck is Dorian Grey.

I rest my case, this thread makes me feel INADEQUATE IN THE EXTREME.

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:36
Never...
devoted as always my dear! ;)

Thank you dear Lisa.:o

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:37
Sari, the answer is all in here :evil:

Luitzen Egbertus Jan Brouwer, 1923, On the significance of the principle of excluded middle in mathematics, espcecially in function theory [reprinted with commentary, p. 334, van Heijenoort]

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:38
Okay guys... i'm finally gonna ask?.. what's with you two?.. Now, I don't believe for a minute that you really dislike eachother.. i'm just wondering what started this game you both seem to enjoy soo much?.... let's hear it.. come on.. fess up.. I won't tell..

sari

How the hell do I know, as if I care.... perhaps because she is 25 years his junior.:rolleyes:

Permagrin
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:42
Ok, who the heck is Dorian Grey.

Handsome, young, but morally corrupt Dorian Gray has his portrait made. As the years pass, he does not age, but evidence of his sins are apparent in his portrait, which grows uglier with each transgression. He keeps it safely hidden in the attic. But his mysterious behavior and ageless appearance begin to attract suspicion.

Summary written by John Oswalt {jao@jao.com}

Innocent young Dorian Gray has his portrait painted by a close friend. Soon after, under the influence of amoral Lord Henry Wotton, he jilts his fiancee, leading to her suicide. This is the start of a life of increasing debauchery, Gray realising that the outward signs of this are apparent only in the portrait. Eventually the picture, secreted in his childhood playroom, becomes almost hideous to behold. But Gray still has one pure love - Gladys, the niece of the original painter.

Kids :rolleyes:
Congrats. Thanks for sharing :p

No posse for me Dave ;)

I rest my case, this thread makes me feel INADEQUATE IN THE EXTREME.

How do you think I feel? I still think Laurence Olivier was the best male actor on the planet!

How the hell do I know, as if I care.... perhaps because she is 25 years his junior.:rolleyes:

No, we don't hate each other....at least I don't think so. I find Dave very enchanting!

saravrose
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:44
well then.. that explains it.. Math text that I didn't want to read in college and sure as heck ain't gonna bother now... and because i'm 25 years younger than you?.... hmm....well then. thanks for clearing that all up...;) ;) ;)

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:44
No, we don't hate each other....at least I don't think so. I find Dave very enchanting!

Ok Ok how many LOL emoticons am I allowed here, I need to use them all !:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Permagrin
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:47
Ok Ok how many LOL emoticons am I allowed here, I need to use them all !:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Peter, you do like to stir up trouble!
I was being sincere....when Dave isn't being provoking, he's very interesting. When he's funny he's enjoyable and when he's nice, he's enchanting.

Sorry to refer to you in the third person Dave...I'll promise to spar later...

Claire
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:48
Kids :rolleyes:



Well, the first time I heard the name was in a James Blunt song! Not like he explained who it was in the song.

"I guess it's time I run far, far away;
find comfort in pain,
All pleasure's the same:
it just keeps me from trouble.
Hides my true shape, like Dorian Gray.
I've heard what they say, but I'm not here for trouble.
It's more than just words: it's just tears and rain."

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:50
Math text that I didn't want to read in college and sure as heck ain't gonna bother now ...

Math(s) text ... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That my dear Ms V is pure philosophy, at least to its exponents :p

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:50
Well, the first time I heard the name was in a James Blunt song! Not like he explained who it was in the song.


Who is James Blunt?:confused:

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:52
Who is James Blunt?:confused:

The name says it all :confused:

A one hit wonder of the 'pop' world, eagerly chased by young teen girls ... and Claire :rolleyes:

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 15:55
One way or another, Klara has managed to derail yet another sincere thread...this one.:cry:

Claire
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:00
The name says it all :confused:

A one hit wonder of the 'pop' world, eagerly chased by young teen girls ... and Claire :rolleyes:

Petkal, he's the girly sounding bloke who sings "You're Beautiful".

And hey! I resent that last comment by Dave. :p I liked him before they began to overplay "You're Beautiful" in Sweden. Then they had to choose "Goodbye my lover" as the next single & overplay it as well. Sigh, at least I got "Billy" in peace. And I saw him perform in Stockholm in Feb. Was ok.

And yes, I'd go on a date with him. :p

Claire
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:03
One way or another, Klara has managed to derail yet another sincere thread...this one.:cry:

I just asked who Dorian Grey was!!

Ok, I'm gonna go sit in a corner of the forum & be quiet now...

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:04
I was being sincere....when Dave isn't being provoking, he's very interesting. When he's funny he's enjoyable and when he's nice, he's enchanting. Sorry to refer to you in the third person Dave...I'll promise to spar later...

Agreed Pete ... plus, the above, while clearly true, in fact rather an understatement, is such embarassingly obvious female flattery.

Other than that, there are no 'issues' between Perm&Grin and I Sari and so no basis to 'spar', tho' I shudder to think what Freudian sublimation that might represent, and she a married woman too :o

Claire
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:06
And for the record, that bird is thinking "Get out off my face, can't you see I'm in the bathroom?! Geesh, how'd you feel if someone shoved a huge lens in your face after a bad curry..."

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:06
And yes, I'd go on a date with him. :p
You honour me immensely, but however tempting that might be, I must decline, Klara....because you could be my daughter.:cool:
I only date middle aged women....in their late 30's to early 40's. ;)

Claire
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:15
You honour me immensely, but however tempting that might be, I must decline, Klara....because you could be my daughter.:cool:
I only date middle aged women....in their late 30's to early 40's. ;)

:cry: Ah well. It's probably for the best. I try to avoid dating men old enough to be my father... You got a son my age? ;)

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:16
:cry: Ah well. It's probably for the best. I try to avoid dating men old enough to be my father... You got a son my age? ;)

Hey, how are you doin'? :p

Erm ... no he doesn't :o :o

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:16
:cry: Ah well. It's probably for the best. I try to avoid dating men old enough to be my father... You got a son my age? ;)

No, sorry, but Connie probably does. So does PermanentlyonGin.

Permagrin
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:17
:cry: Ah well. It's probably for the best. I try to avoid dating men old enough to be my father... You got a son my age? ;)

He's got a daughter MY age ;)

but I have a son who's probably around your age. (though I'm only guessing what that might be from how you look in your avatar)...

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:21
He's got a daughter MY age ;)


:shock: That ba***d ! He lied to me, he said he was 57.:mad:

Permagrin
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:24
:shock: That ba***d ! He lied to me, he said he was 57.:mad:

I was referring to you!

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:25
I was referring to you!
Oh, sorry, I thought you meant Connie.:cry: :o

Permagrin
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:28
Although, since I am 39 for a few more months, technically, I could have been a youthful indiscretion of his...I was born in Europe...(W.Germany actually)

(in which case any further "feminine flattery" would be terribly wrong) :lol:

Claire
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:30
He's got a daughter MY age ;)

but I have a son who's probably around your age. (though I'm only guessing what that might be from how you look in your avatar)...

I'm 27 going on 40. :rolleyes:

Dave, you do look young, but definitely not my age. :p

saravrose
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:31
Math(s) text ... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That my dear Ms V is pure philosophy, at least to its exponents :p

shows how much I pay attention :rolleyes: :rolleyes: .. no matter philosophy is boring as well. I preferred literature, history, anthropology, psych, music... I think i'm giving away just how productive my scholastic education has been... shutting up now..

hey, Dave ten bucks says you don't know what the V is for....

Permagrin
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:32
I'm 27 going on 40. :rolleyes:

Dave, you do look young, but definitely not my age. :p

ooh, well my son will be 20 in Dec. and my daughter 21. Sorry Claire but I guess the good news is that you look very youthful!

saravrose
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:34
I'm 27 going on 40. :rolleyes:

Dave, you do look young, but definitely not my age. :p

it's okay Claire i'm about to turn twenty-four and as my sister pointed out recently that makes us almost a quarter of a century.. meg will celebrate by hitting New York City and consuming a ridiculous amount of long island iced teas. I have a plan to go home eat my aunt's meatloaf dinner with this lemon cheesecake creation she does with a dirty name I can't type.. and then maybe, if i'm lucky see whatever movie is going to be released and go buy some ridiculously expensie bath towels... now, I do believe that makes me the winner.....:p :p

sari

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:34
... hey, Dave ten bucks says you don't know what the V is for....

I believe this is easy money and the $10 US will be added to your Africa 'tab', a concept you will understand only too well in your chosen profession Ms Vorheese :cool:

saravrose
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:36
I believe this is easy money and the $10 US will be added to your Africa 'tab', a concept you will understand only too well in your chosen profession Ms Vorheese :cool:

haha.. how the heck?... oh well. Okay, add it up. my goodness you even spelled it correctly, how on earth did you know that?

sari

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:44
haha.. how the heck?... oh well. Okay, add it up. my goodness you even spelled it correctly, how on earth did you know that?

Little goes past my beady eye without being registered for later usage ;)

saravrose
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:46
Little goes past my beady eye without being registered for later usage ;)

something to remember... haha! oh wait... my recent paypal huh? sneaky me changed my name on my bank account and dropped my last name...

Claire
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 16:56
Permagrin, thanks! That's the good thing about being asian, youthfull looks!:)

Sari, I'm planning to have a proper party when i turn 30. :D

Permagrin
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 17:02
Permagrin, thanks! That's the good thing about being asian, youthfull looks!:)

:lol: :lol: :lol:
You really are funny Claire! I always enjoy your posts...

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 17:06
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You really are funny Claire! I always enjoy your posts...

Right, so do we....until she terminates or hijacks the thread, that is.:rolleyes:

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 17:14
Right, so do we....until she terminates or hijacks the thread, that is.:rolleyes:

Notice something interesting about this thread chief? Same as the last one eh?

Claire
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 17:14
Right, so do we....until she terminates or hijacks the thread, that is.:rolleyes:

Says the guy who starts fights with Condyk in threads or provokes verbal battles. Hmpf.

Ok, I'm hurt now. :cry: I'm off to sleep & let you all be.

condyk
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 17:16
Says the guy who starts fights with Condyk in threads ...

:lol: :lol: :lol: So little does this exotic, wrinkle-free child understand the Art of War :cool:

BTW, only 12 more votes and the answer is revealed ;-)

Permagrin
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 17:21
So little does this exotic, wrinkle-free child understand the Art of War :cool:

BTW, only 12 more votes and the answer is revealed ;-)

Even when I WAS 27, no one ever called me exotic! (probably not wrinkle free either) :lol: :lol:

I looked up your math/philosopher Dave and I have to admit that his "non-answer/answers" made my head spin so much that I must not understand the art of war either...but I've got wrinkles so perhaps that's it :lol: :lol:

Permagrin
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 17:29
okay Dave, I'm trying to stir up some support

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2186837#post2186837

saravrose
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 17:30
Says the guy who starts fights with Condyk in threads or provokes verbal battles. Hmpf.

Ok, I'm hurt now. :cry: I'm off to sleep & let you all be.

verbal battles huh?... hmm.. I do have to admit and i'm sure it's similar to watching a car wreck that I really enjoy the little debates and discussions that occur between like personalities every once in awhile.. often stimulating and with popcorn more entertaining than watching whatever movie of the week Lifetime or Hallmark is featuring.. oh, and claire don't let them pick on you.. You are a classy lady and above such things..;)

PetKal
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 17:33
verbal battles huh?... hmm.. I do have to admit and i'm sure it's similar to watching a car wreck that I really enjoy the little debates and discussions that occur between like personalities every once in awhile.. often stimulating and with popcorn more entertaining than watching whatever movie of the week Lifetime or Hallmark is featuring.. oh, and claire don't let them pick on you.. You are a classy lady and above such things..;)

You children have not seen anything yet....like when Connie and I gang up on a third party like Dante or Busterboy....downright ugly.:rolleyes:

saravrose
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 17:39
You children have not seen anything yet....like when Connie and I gang up on a third party like Dante or Busterboy....downright ugly.:rolleyes:

now darlin' I grew up with a twin sister who beat me up everytime she had to beat somebdy up who was gonna beat me up.... now that's ugly. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: .. and the very next time you to decide to go in together in a project I would like to be notified. watching both of you take swipes at eachother is lots of fun... but, watching you to work as a team would be worth the price of admission..

sari

runninmann
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 23:32
Almost 700 views, but on (at the time I voted) 39 votes? What the matter, a little intimidated?

I voted "contented". If I were a bird, and I felt a little intestinal discomfort, I'd just decorate someone's windshield (or windscreen), problem solved. So it's not indigestion. I'm guessing that if I were a bird and I felt any kind of strong emotion (assuming that as a bird I could experience emotions and not just react to instincts), I'd probably show some signs of agitation - wing fluttering, strutting, pecking, you know -- birdy stuff. So that eliminates depression and joy. So I'm just hangin' out and chillin', to use the vernacular of today's urban US constituency.

I might be wrong, but, hey, I'm a bird-brain. What the heck do I know.

Claire
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 00:45
:lol: :lol: :lol: So little does this exotic, wrinkle-free child understand the Art of War :cool:



Sari, he called me a child!!! :cry: :cry:

Permagrin
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 00:46
Claire, he also called you exotic....that ought to be worth something!
(and when you're older you'll really appreciate the wrinkle free business too ;) )

Bob_A
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 01:00
Sari, he called me a child!!! :cry: :cry:

Yes, I think child is wrong. My standards are as follows:

Up to and including 25 = Kid
26 - 30 = Punk

:lol:

Claire
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 01:13
Yes, I think child is wrong. My standards are as follows:

Up to and including 25 = Kid
26 - 30 = Punk

:lol:

Goody, I don't have to be an adult for another 2.5years. :)

Permagrin, see, another benefit of having Asian genes. :) My mom did an analysis of her skin recently when buying a face cream. The sales woman said she was surprised how good mom's skin was.

condyk
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 02:51
Almost 700 views, but on (at the time I voted) 39 votes? What the matter, a little intimidated? I voted "contented". I might be wrong, but, hey, I'm a bird-brain. What the heck do I know.

True, but a thoughtful and respectful attempt at empathy all the same. You should feel right at home with all this girly talk goin' on here. On the intimidated point well folks can always vote and run, but maybe they are so competitive that they can't bear the thought of being wrong or not being crowned King Fool of this daft caper :rolleyes:

Permagrin, see, another benefit of having Asian genes. :) My mom did an analysis of her skin recently when buying a face cream. The sales woman said she was surprised how good mom's skin was.

I can see it now ... ' Yes, Mrs A our in depth analysis here in the shop shows that you do have skin on your facial areas and that the only way to keep it lookin' so good y'all is to buy this expensive face gloop I am sellin'.

Yes, I think child is wrong. My standards are as follows:

Up to and including 25 = Kid ... 26 - 30 = Punk


Personally, mine is 0-20 (Kid), 21+ (Son, Fella)

Claire
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 03:07
Personally, mine is 0-20 (Kid), 21+ (Son, Fella)

I'm a son or fella now?

condyk
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 03:13
I'm a son or fella now?

There is an ambiguity in my classification; I accept that. It may be that society does not have a term for women 20+ that embraces bonhomie, craic and informality. I am prepared to add a term if you girls can propose one that is acceptable. It would be a great contribution.

Permagrin
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 03:36
There is an ambiguity in my classification; I accept that. It may be that society does not have a term for women 20+ that embraces bonhomie, craic and informality. I am prepared to add a term if you girls can propose one that is acceptable. It would be a great contribution.


Well, I'm not one of the girls but "goddess" or "inspiration" does come to mind :lol:

edit: btw, when is this vote over?

Pete
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 05:36
Indigestion. He looks like he's got a huge, fruity burp he's just about to unload...

COKE CAN
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 05:44
Indigestion. He looks like he's got a huge, fruity burp he's just about to unload...

I was thinking the same thing, lol

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 07:02
BTW, some day, sonny boy, I hope you'd get a good quality medium FL teLephoto Lens so you could then dispense with all that RAW and PP crap, and thereby focus more on actual camera/lens handling......yes, the quintessential photography craft.;) Right, this is a 100% crop.

Claire
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 07:04
Bloody 'ell. Do they have such red eyes, or has he been staring into your lens for too long?

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 07:07
Bloody 'ell. Do they have such red eyes, or has he been staring into your lens for too long?

Damn.......forgot to turn the red eye reduction ON on my MkIIN.:cry:

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 07:18
BTW, some day, sonny boy, I hope you'd get a good quality medium FL teLephoto Lens so you could then dispense with all that RAW and PP crap, and thereby focus more on actual camera/lens handling......yes, the quintessential photography craft.;) Right, this is a 100% crop.

uh oh.. methink I hear Rockwell come out of the Canadian's mouth.... RAW and PP have there place and there value..


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/saravrose/the%20challenge/CopyofIMG_5004-01.jpg

Claire
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 08:23
Omg, that's an UGLY turkey (or whatever it is)!

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 08:48
Omg, that's an UGLY turkey (or whatever it is)!

and it's a good thing he's soo ugly.. if he were cute we would all feel guilty for having some with stuffing on thanksgiving or christmas.. not to mention the club sandwiches..

sari

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 08:53
uh oh.. methink I hear Rockwell come out of the Canadian's mouth.... RAW and PP have there place and there value..


Agree, as much as instant mix and the Cool Whip have in the creation of the Sacher Torte. As much as the Shrek movies have influenced the curriculum of the Brisbane Acting Academy....:lol:

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 09:00
Agree, as much as instant mix and the Cool Whip have in the creation of the Sacher Torte. As much as the Shrek movies have influenced the curriculum of the Brisbane Acting Academy....:lol:

all tools buddy.. and non of them invalid... not a one. Not a point and shoot camera not a thirty year old MF lens that can be had for fifteen bucks... Not a walmart print or a two thousand dollar piece of glass or a free download for RAW processing.. all tools. all to be used and respected for what they are and what they are capable of.. regardless of which ones you pick up and make use of.. If tastes run to perfect glass and large JPEG files with perfect white balances and beautiful 100% crops. wonderful good for you... valid photograher's decisions.. If tastes run to fast primes and RAW shooting with hours pouring over white balances and creating the artistry after the shutter goes off good photographer's choice.. Equally valid... dang cameras... look as technical as can be but still just glorified paint brushes... all to be used as individually as everyone wants them to be....

sari

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 09:29
uh oh.. methink I hear Rockwell come out of the Canadian's mouth.... RAW and PP have there place and there value..



Young woman, how can I discuss tools with someone who finds photogenic appeal in an old shrivelled up cock like that on your image above ?:rolleyes: :lol:

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 09:36
Young woman, how can I discuss tools with someone who finds photogenic appeal in an old shrivelled up cock like that on your image above ?:rolleyes: :lol:

ohhh.... and now age has to come into play.. well I suppose because I am young. and young eyes see more than old eyes at times.. photogenic appeal is in the eye of the beholder.. good grief how many folks truly love all of those primary abstracts with the triangles in the middle of foreheads.. if Picasso can have a following than an old shriveled up cock can too... but don't worry about him.. he might be just too ugly to eat.. :cool: :cool:

sari

Ronald S. Jr.
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 09:51
Yowza..Sari's getting feisty! :-)

Claire
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 09:59
Yowza..Sari's getting feisty! :-)

She's fighting back much better than me. I haven't learnt the Art of War yet.

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 10:07
She's fighting back much better than me. I haven't learnt the Art of War yet.

blah!! I flunked debate.... twice. that whole standing in front of people.. besides i'm not fighting with Peter... not at all.. great guy our Peter lots of handy information in an entertaining package.... but still if you wanna disagree he's one of the more entertaining ones to disagree with.. besides at any time Dave is gonna come along and tell me i'm wrong and to respect my elders... unless ofcourse i'm right... there's a fairly good chance that something In my little young girl head has some validity.. actually i'm banking on it.. lord knows my looks won't get me far... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

sari

Claire
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 10:15
.. there's a fairly good chance that something In my little young girl head has some validity.. actually i'm banking on it.. lord knows my looks won't get me far... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

sari

I'll ask Dave and Tommy about those things after your Africa trip. ;)

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 10:18
ohhh.... and now age has to come into play.. well I suppose because I am young. and young eyes see more than old eyes at times.. photogenic appeal is in the eye of the beholder.. good grief how many folks truly love all of those primary abstracts with the triangles in the middle of foreheads.. if Picasso can have a following than an old shriveled up cock can too... but don't worry about him.. he might be just too ugly to eat.. :cool: :cool:

sari

Sounds good to me, advancing-steadily-towards-middle-age woman;) .
Most non-European folks would not like the authentic Sacher Torte anyways.
As for me, I must have been in my early teens when I finally gave up on trying to compare it to Mars bars.:D

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 10:24
I'll ask Dave and Tommy about those things after your Africa trip. ;)

to my annoyance I'm aware that there will be five other cameras on the trip with me... dang pesky things.. usually it's just me with the camera therefore it's me behind the camera and not in front.. I've been warned that I won't be able to avoid all of them all the time.... but... i'm gonna try.... ;) ;)

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 10:27
Sounds good to me, advancing-steadily-towards-middle-age woman;) .
Most non-European folks would not like the authentic Sacher Torte anyways.
As for me, I must have been in my early teens when I finally gave up on trying to compare it to Mars bars.:D

now i'm a little disappointed.. oh well...

mars bars.. by the way is something i've heard about referred to with reverence... but never actually seen.. this direction we have a coconut coated in chocolate concoction that is supposed to look like a potatoe... ofcourse it's pretty gross but what do you expect from a hillbilly candy bar?.... :lol: :lol:

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 10:30
now i'm a little disappointed.. oh well...

mars bars.. by the way is something i've heard about referred to with reverence... but never actually seen.. this direction we have a coconut coated in chocolate concoction that is supposed to look like a potatoe... ofcourse it's pretty gross but what do you expect from a hillbilly candy bar?.... :lol: :lol:

Lest I forgot, please try to talk back to me less passionately.....for I have just noticed that our pal Ronald seems to be getting quite hot under the collar just by watching the proceedings.

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 10:34
Lest I forgot, please try to talk back to me less passionately.....for I have just noticed that our pal Ronald seems to be getting quite hot under the collar just by watching the proceedings.

:rolleyes: :lol: :lol: ... hehe.. don't think we can put much store in what gets under Ron's collar.... besides talking back is a great skill learned it from my sister in my late teens.... she did try to teach me when we were younger but it didn't take so i'm making up for lost time.... ofcourse I shouldn't have started with the Tijuana border patrol but... we all make a few mistakes.... :p

sari

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 10:40
of course I shouldn't have started with the Tijuana border patrol but... we all make a few mistakes.... :p

sari


Dammit....I must resist making a comment on this one....I must, I must, however impossible that might seem.....:o :o :o :o :o
I'd probably be lynched on 4 accounts of political incorrectness in one.:lol:

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 11:04
Dammit....I must resist making a comment on this one....I must, I must, however impossible that might seem.....:o :o :o :o :o
I'd probably be lynched on 4 accounts of political incorrectness in one.:lol:

good idea petey... I think you should be quiet too... however not nearly as much fun as you think it is... evening of my grandmothers wake my sister and four of my cousin's decided the only appropriate thing to do is head straight for Mexico and drink as much Rum as we could for as long as we could... on the way back my bacardi fuddled mind thought it would be funny to use all of my fifteen words of spanish to see just how much I could tease the border guards.. I thought it was hilarious.. My sister on the other hand thought that I was five minutes away from having a new address..

sari

thomascanty
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 11:17
on the way back my bacardi fuddled mind thought it would be funny to use all of my fifteen words of spanish to see just how much I could tease the border guards..

Dare we ask what those 15 words are?

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 11:21
Dare we ask what those 15 words are?


nothing much... nothing overly inventive that's for sure..I might have told them I wanted frenchfries.... or how old I was...

sari

runninmann
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 11:31
True, but a thoughtful and respectful attempt at empathy all the same. You should feel right at home with all this girly talk goin' on here. On the intimidated point well folks can always vote and run, but maybe they are so competitive that they can't bear the thought of being wrong or not being crowned King Fool of this daft caper :rolleyes:

I find nothing wrong with a little "girly talk" every once in a while. It helps build one's empathetic sense.

I agree that many can't bear the thought of being wrong, but it's not because they're so competitive. It's because of the attempts in today's western society to make sure everyone wins. Every little snot has to make the sports team or have a part in the school play no matter how hapless. In the days of true competition, we accepted the fact that there would be winners and losers. Nowadays, that's too much for many of our liberal minds to bear.

condyk
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 12:24
... if Picasso can have a following than an old shriveled up cock can too ...

Yowza..Sari's getting feisty!

There is something so wrong in this exchange :o I fancy Ronalds tail has spread, he's bobbing his head, got fluffed up, and his eyes have pinned.

She's fighting back much better than me. I haven't learnt the Art of War yet.

Not necessarily: 'If he is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him.' ;)

I'll ask Dave and Tommy about those things after your Africa trip.

Well Sari has already indicated she may well don a Burka for the duration :rolleyes:

Every little snot has to make the sports team or have a part in the school play no matter how hapless. In the days of true competition, we accepted the fact that there would be winners and losers. Nowadays, that's too much for many of our liberal minds to bear.

Keep runnin' son or dem Liberals will hug 'n love y'all to death! Like the Klan did in those good ol' 'competitive days :confused: ... and you may or may not have a point, but as we don't have evidence here either way it's all academic. However, it could just be that folks here are so uncompetitive that they can't bear the thought of being right :p

... btw, when is this vote over?

When we get to 50 responses Perm&Gin then the whole Pigeon tale will be revealed ;-)

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 12:33
Dave sorry.. Pete and I monopolozed your thread this morning... oopps.. as to the burka do you suppose it would be really uncomfortable?... or maybe actually a little cooler?... hmm.. something to consider anyway besides I must get credit for my bathroom mirror shot.. even though few saw it I did take it which has to count.... atleast a little..

sari

runninmann
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 12:52
Only 2 out of 47 votes for "Joyful". I guess this is to be expected from a group so pessimistic that we resort to so many "Does this look soft?" or "Is my lens back-focusing?" posts. Not a very optimistic bunch.

Or, maybe just really in touch with our avian side.

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:06
OK kids, try to guess the mood of this pigeon boy ?:lol:

Claire
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:13
Sari, actually burkas and a lot of those clothes are all purposefully designed for hot weather if I'm not mistaking. I wouldn't recommend a black one though, have something more colourful. I heard purple is very in right now. ;)

wu_wei0
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:31
Ok, the bird is shown in macro-like close up to enable those who feel they have empathy for others to identify his/her current mood (birds are people too!!) There will be no clues and no correspondence will be entered in to. . . . .
INSTRUCTIONS:

(1) You will look at the bird
(2) You will 'project' yourself into his 'shoes'
. . . .
. . . . .


Birds wear no shoes and thus there is nothing for me to project myself into.
BTW, at this point the bird has now also become a "he," negating the beginning equation, perhaps. I look forward to reading the correct answer.

Claire- I have one single son left who is about your age. we should talk ;)

Permagrin
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:36
Claire- I have one single son left who is about your age. we should talk ;)

:lol: I was trying to fix her up with my son too :lol:

wu_wei0
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:40
:lol: I was trying to fix her up with my son too :lol:
OK then, you have first "dibs" and Michel can be a backup, if needed. Probably safer if she hooks up with your son, come to think of it. all of mine are quite like me- in varying ways, but certainly like me.:)

Claire
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:40
Birds wear no shoes and thus there is nothing for me to project myself into.
BTW, at this point the bird has now also become a "he," negating the beginning equation, perhaps. I look forward to reading the correct answer.

Claire- I have one single son left who is about your age. we should talk ;)

Finally someone who puts Condyk in his place! "Birds wear no shoes...". I can't believe nobody has thought of this before! Damn, we must be really stupid. :(

Wu, sure. ;) Just my luck, all elegible (sp?) men are abroad. This just proves my thesis that I only attract foreigners. Swedish men must have crappy taste in women. *cough cough*

runninmann
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:41
OK kids, try to guess the mood of this pigeon boy ?:lol:Indigestion?;)

wu_wei0
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:42
Swedish men must have crappy taste in women. *cough cough* They must, if they have not seen your charm, wit, and beauty. Abandon them, for they know not what is good and right.

As for the "no shoes" thing- I am rather oppositional and do poorly on multiple choice exams/surveys if they are inconsistent or do not offer the exhaustive array of responses. Probably comes from writing too many survey instruments, I guess.

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:44
Connie, the yogic-saphic circle seems to have been established here as well. Perhaps the time has come for our exodus again ?

(<Petkal dons his decompression suit and departs for manly shoals>)

Claire
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:44
Wu, I think Permagrin's son is a bit too young for me. He is 20 and unfortunately I don't date 20y/o guys. I went on a date with one I met during a Halloween party two years ago (wait, bloody 'ell, I haven't had a date in 2 years??!?). Anyway, he was tall, cute, engineering student and all that stuff. The guy made plans after our coffee! I had gone into Gothenburg and everything and figured we'd do whatever we felt like after the coffee, and the idiot had made plans to go out clubbing with his mates. I ended up going to watch "Bridget Jones 2" after he left. LMAO Mom thought I was sad when I got home, but I really wasn't. I just laughed and told dad I'd stick to guys my own age in the future...

wu_wei0
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:47
Wu, I think Permagrin's son is a bit too young for me. He is 20 and unfortunately I don't date 20y/o guys. I went on a date with one I met during a Halloween party two years ago (wait, bloody 'ell, I haven't had a date in 2 years??!?). Anyway, he was tall, cute, engineering student and all that stuff. The guy made plans after our coffee! I had gone into Gothenburg and everything and figured we'd do whatever we felt like after the coffee, and the idiot had made plans to go out clubbing with his mates. I ended up going to watch "Bridget Jones 2" after he left. LMAO Mom thought I was sad when I got home, but I really wasn't. I just laughed and told dad I'd stick to guys my own age in the future...
Claire, Michel is 26.75 yrs old. close enough I'd say. Oh and tall and cute, although a bit too thin for a mother's preference.

Pet, my dear. don't worry about suiting up. I'm gone and shall torment you no longer. However, what I expressed about the bird stands.

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:51
Pet, my dear. don't worry about suiting up. I'm gone and shall torment you no longer. However, what I expressed about the bird stands.

Sure...till we meet again, Woo Wee woman.;) :lol:

Claire
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:51
Wu, sounds like a good enough age. Hehe.

Permagrin
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:55
OK then, you have first "dibs" and Michel can be a backup, if needed. Probably safer if she hooks up with your son, come to think of it. all of mine are quite like me- in varying ways, but certainly like me.:)

Claire's right, he's much younger that she...(didn't know that at the time)...and if your boys are like you Wu, they'll turn out a riot!

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:55
Incidentally, anyone seen Connie today ? ( darn....49 posts to go)

rklepper
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:58
Ever heard of a Chicken Vindaloo? :D:D

Can't say that I have.

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 14:58
Claire's right, he's much younger that she...(didn't know that at the time)...and if your boys are like you Wu, they'll turn out a riot!

yeah, yeah, yeah,....that's bad (:rolleyes: )
(48 to go.:cry: )

Permagrin
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:01
yeah, yeah, yeah,....that's bad (:rolleyes: )
(48 to go.:cry: )

Okay, I'll bite...what's "bad"?
A woman dating a younger man?
or Wu's boys turning out like her?

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:02
well look at this claire I leave to (gasp) work for a few minutes and come back with you having not one but two potential eligible bachelors lined up.... and you already like their mothers;) ...

oh and I agree with you a 100% on the Swedish guys.. idiots all of them....

sari

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:03
Okay, I'll bite...what's "bad"?
A woman dating a younger man?
or Wu's boys turning out like her?


gotcha, yes.(44 to go..)

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:05
well look at this claire I leave to (gasp) work for a few minutes and come back with you having not one but two potential eligible bachelors lined up.... and you already like their mothers;) ...

oh and I agree with you a 100% on the Swedish guys.. idiots all of them....

sari

Now, how about Ronald.....he and you would do OK, plus he aint sweedish.

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:14
I think mine is too skinny too...but this is a recent snapshot of him with his father...(I think his sister took it but I'm not sure)...being his mum, I think he's adorable ;) (and probably unfortunately, personality wise takes after his mother a great deal too)


Thank you for sharing, nice capture (37 to go...:rolleyes: )

Permagrin
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:17
Thank you for sharing, nice capture (37 to go...:rolleyes: )

You certainly are in a hurry to make your big announcement...shall I guess what it is?

You're running off with MDJAK?
You're giving up bird and starting to photograph cats?

Claire
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:19
Damnit. Slooow modem. Can't see pic. Have to wait until tomorrow.

Petkal, you really go for quality in your posts, don't'cha? :p

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:19
You certainly are in a hurry to make your big announcement...shall I guess what it is?

You're running off with MDJAK?
You're giving up bird and starting to photograph cats?


yes, i hear ya.....do asyou wish, I don't do 3rd party lenses.

PetKal
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:21
Damnit. Slooow modem. Can't see pic. Have to wait until tomorrow.

Petkal, you really go for quality in your posts, don't'cha? :p

fine byme, ronald is a good boy..

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:23
I think mine is too skinny too...but this is a recent snapshot of him with his father...(I think his sister took it but I'm not sure)...being his mum, I think he's adorable ;) (and probably unfortunately, personality wise takes after his mother a great deal too)
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/106636988-M.jpg

well you have a cute son.. yep no need to put the 'because i'm his mom' after it.. a good looking guy he is.. and where is he off to or coming home from? It looks like airport in the background...

sari

Permagrin
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:28
well you have a cute son.. yep no need to put the 'because i'm his mom' after it.. a good looking guy he is.. and where is he off to or coming home from? It looks like airport in the background...

sari

Thank you Sari! (the way to my heart is definitely through my children) ;)

That was in Jan. when he came home from boot camp I think. He's about to be transferred to some remote (and I mean remote) place in AK for a year. I'm hoping he'll be home for Christmas first though.

wu_wei0
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:29
Damnit. Slooow modem. Can't see pic. Have to wait until tomorrow.

Petkal, you really go for quality in your posts, don't'cha? :p

He's "padding" posts-- nearing 5000.
now then, do you become all creamy then, or what?


Claire, I'll see about a photo of Michel for you and put in an appropriate place. Kinda difficult to find one, perhaps since he is a phtographer also.

Permagrin- he is a handsome fella! looks great in uniform

saravrose
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:31
Thank you Sari! (the way to my heart is definitely through my children) ;)

That was in Jan. when he came home from boot camp I think. He's about to be transferred to some remote (and I mean remote) place in AK for a year. I'm hoping he'll be home for Christmas first though.

pull out the guilt trip.. My aunt has been doing it very effectively for years.. she hasn't had a one of us miss her christmas eve celebrations... We're all afraid of disappoining her.. which ofcourse would annoy my uncle and nobody wants to annoy him... ;) ..

sari