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TMR Design
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 01:23
If you've ever read reviews of some point-and-shoots cameras and seen then make mention of vignetting caused by the flash when working at the short end of the lens but have never actually seen it to know what it looks like then here it is. Focal length is 7.3mm which is the equivalent of 35mm.
This is my friend Joy at a Halloween party. This same type of vignetting with occur if you are using a converter tube to attach filters or lenses and you use the flash.

rcheliflyer
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 02:18
That's interesting, I have not taken many flash pics with my A630 and I was
thinking about buying the adapter to use some 58mm accessories .
It's good to know what may happen.
It looks like more flash would help, have you tried increasing the flash comp.
or increasing ISO?
That's probably why they make the hi power flash attachment.

TMR Design
29th of October 2006 (Sun), 06:05
There are no camera settings that will eliminate the vignetting other than zooming in a small amount. Once you get away from full wide angle the vignetting goes away.

You can also check out how this is affected by using lensmate adapters on the A6xx cameras, with and without flash, using wide angle and zoom lens attachments.
http://lensmateonline.com/newsite/A620A610.html

Stefan A
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 05:43
That's interesting. I rarely use my flash (I probably should) so I have never seen it. I am surprised you are still using your 620. Don't get me wrong because I am not a P&S basher like some people. It's just that I have not wanted to use my S2 ever since I got the xt. Even when I go to little get togethers. What is your main use of it now that you have the slr?

Stefan

TMR Design
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 09:57
Hi Stefan,

I do still use my A620 for many things. I use it for all my ebay and catalog shots because I do hundreds of photos at a time and for that kind of work I am just anal enough that I don't want to have those shutter actuations on my 30D. The number would grow ridiculously fast. I use it extensively for macro work using my DIY lightbox and now the lightbox has been modified to accomodate the camera mounted in the top facing down so I can do images like the one shown below. I was going to take some pics of the lightbox with the A620 mounted and post to a new thread so others can see. Having the 2 second timer is nice when I do these shots because it allows for any vibration or movement in the lightbox to settle first.

I also use it for some generic things and going to parties where I am already anticipating an accident or a drunk person and "sorry man, that wasn't your camera, was it?".....lololol

Getting the 30D didn't make the A620 undesirable or make me view it as a 'crappy' camera. It's still an exceptional camera.

Stefan A
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 11:45
That makes sense

Stefan

ib2loud
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 18:55
my s3 seems to do this at full zoom

cosworth
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 19:00
Vignetting isn't bad. It's just part of photography and in the digital age people accept no compromises sadly.

I think it ADDS to this shot. I look at it as a bit of an old western theme. Yes some call me wishy washy.

TMR Design
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 19:00
my s3 seems to do this at full zoom

I'm sure many, if not most of the point and shoot cameras do this but most people don't ever see it and many don't use the flash. If you never use the flash then the only time this would come up is if you were using the converter tube and some of the lenses or attachments on the converter.

The lensmate site shows some of the slight vignetting when you use telephoto and wide angle lenses and I know form personal experience that some filters will cause slight vignetting as well.

ib2loud
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 20:29
mine has done it in bright sunlight with no flash, if i'm at full zoom

TMR Design
30th of October 2006 (Mon), 20:50
mine has done it in bright sunlight with no flash, if i'm at full zoom

With no attachments? No filters or anything? Hmm, I have not seen that on the A620.

velasco
1st of November 2006 (Wed), 02:20
i thought the vignetting looks great :D

Jon
1st of November 2006 (Wed), 08:00
You can try putting something in front of the flash to act as a diffuser - a piece of whitish plastic, say, or white tissue, a little in front of it (not right against it) to counter the effect.

Sidenote: I, too, use my A620 a fair bit. Nohere near as much as the DSLRs, but it's handy to keep around. I don't feel like hauling the 5D/24-70/580EX to work on a daily basis along with a couple of laptops, so the A620 comes along unless I've been asked to photograph something/someone. I'll also use it during a regular shoot when the fold-out screen lets me get an odd-angle shot more comfortably or without pointing and praying (dog in narrow pen - can't get to eye level without putting the camera just inside the pen, for instance). It also lets me mount an UWA on the 5D and the 100-400 on the 20D and still cover that all-important middle zone, or take "digital notes" when photographing a location (don't forget, too, the A620, like the 1D series but not the rest of the DSLRs, allows you to put an audio annotation on the shot). It's also a whole bunch easier to carry than a DV camera. Mind you, if I had an S3 it wouldn't go along with the big cameras - it's too bulky. And it'd probably live at work, leaving me "uncovered" while en route. But I started with the DSLRs and added a P&S rather than the other way 'round.

TMR Design
1st of November 2006 (Wed), 11:21
i thought the vignetting looks great :D

If it was intentional I would agree.

TMR Design
1st of November 2006 (Wed), 11:23
You can try putting something in front of the flash to act as a diffuser - a piece of whitish plastic, say, or white tissue, a little in front of it (not right against it) to counter the effect.

Sidenote: I, too, use my A620 a fair bit. Nohere near as much as the DSLRs, but it's handy to keep around. I don't feel like hauling the 5D/24-70/580EX to work on a daily basis along with a couple of laptops, so the A620 comes along unless I've been asked to photograph something/someone. I'll also use it during a regular shoot when the fold-out screen lets me get an odd-angle shot more comfortably or without pointing and praying (dog in narrow pen - can't get to eye level without putting the camera just inside the pen, for instance). It also lets me mount an UWA on the 5D and the 100-400 on the 20D and still cover that all-important middle zone, or take "digital notes" when photographing a location (don't forget, too, the A620, like the 1D series but not the rest of the DSLRs, allows you to put an audio annotation on the shot). It's also a whole bunch easier to carry than a DV camera. Mind you, if I had an S3 it wouldn't go along with the big cameras - it's too bulky. And it'd probably live at work, leaving me "uncovered" while en route. But I started with the DSLRs and added a P&S rather than the other way 'round.

Glad to see others that find good reason to use their P&S. As I continue to cay, the A620 is an exceptional camera and I would never dicard it simply because I own a DSLR. It has its place and as we all know, when you understand basic principles of photography you can make P&S cameras shine.

ib2loud
2nd of November 2006 (Thu), 18:05
With no attachments? No filters or anything? Hmm, I have not seen that on the A620.


well it's not quite as noticeable as the original photo, but here is one of my stock photos that it's visible

http://thumb15.shutterstock.com/photos4/display_pic_with_logo/64357/64357,1148694966,1.jpg

that was at full zoom on a fairly sunny day

TMR Design
2nd of November 2006 (Thu), 18:42
well it's not quite as noticeable as the original photo, but here is one of my stock photos that it's visible

http://thumb15.shutterstock.com/photos4/display_pic_with_logo/64357/64357,1148694966,1.jpg

that was at full zoom on a fairly sunny day

Hardly noticable there but I can see it.