1DsMII/5D Noise Comparison

[OviV]

Being a new 1DsMkII owner and a 5D owner, I figured I would compare noise at high ISO on both these cameras. I will say that I love both camera's but have in my perception seen less noise from the 5D. These test however showed something different. For these test both camera's used the same lens, same settings (as close as I could get them since the menus differ a bit), on a tripod. I am not an expert so this was an amateur's approach to noise testing. I have always noticed noise in the shadows so I used a dark subject. I shot raw and set the PS RAW parameters to same identical settings with no sharpening or noise reduction.

1Ds MkII images are on the LEFT and 5D on the RIGHT. These are 100% crops.

400 ISO:
http://www.shareapicture.com/vsalbum/getpic.aspx?fld=\OviV\Photography\Tests&pic=400.jpg&OV=0

800 ISO:
http://www.shareapicture.com/vsalbum/getpic.aspx?fld=\OviV\Photography\Tests&pic=800.jpg&OV=0

1600 ISO:
http://www.shareapicture.com/vsalbum/getpic.aspx?fld=\OviV\Photography\Tests&pic=1600.jpg&OV=0

3200 ISO:
http://www.shareapicture.com/vsalbum/getpic.aspx?fld=\OviV\Photography\Tests&pic=3200.jpg&OV=0

Let me know if you think these tests are invalid and what I did wrong, otherwise, you be the judge.

Ovi

[Ronald S. Jr.]

have in my perception seen less noise from the 5D. These test however showed something different.


I don't know what you're smoking, but those 1DsMkII crops show a significant increase in noise, if you ask me.

[Tsmith]

Not surprising as the 5D is a stellar performer in this aspect.

[OviV]

In my perception, the 5D shows less noise in the lighter color areas but shows significantly more noise in the dark area. I have no bias here, I love both cameras. My thoughts are that there really isn't a significant difference. Oh, and I don't smoke anything at all, I drink, but haven't started yet this morning. ;)

[GyRob]

well the 5d looks good but the noise looks diffrent from both camera's there seem's to be more color noise from the 5d.
Rob.

[Ronald S. Jr.]

more color noise from the 5D, but noticeably more noise overall from the MkII. It doesn't even seem close, from what I'm looking at. I would go as far as to say that the noise at 3200 on the MkII looks about twice as horrid. At 4-800, they seem quite equal, give or take. I will say this, though. The blacks look more black on the MkII. Otherwise, the 5D looks like the IQ winner thus far.

[cdifoto]

I say it's too close to give a damn. Send 'em off to print then decide if one's really much worse than the other.

[malla1962]

I say it's too close to give a damn. Send 'em off to print then decide if one's really much worse than the other.ile second that.

[dpastern]

In my perception, the 5D shows less noise in the lighter color areas but shows significantly more noise in the dark area. I have no bias here, I love both cameras. My thoughts are that there really isn't a significant difference. Oh, and I don't smoke anything at all, I drink, but haven't started yet this morning. ;)

I agree with you - my eyes say the 1Ds Mark II is the clear winner in the darker areas, and the 5D in the lighter areas. The problem here is that the eye is usually drawn to the darker areas, especially with noise, as it stands out LOT worse than noise in lighter areas where colour and brightness can help hide the noise. Overall, the 5D is better from the looks of it, although they're equal up to ISO 400 in both the darker/lighter areas from what I can see with my eyes. Remember that the 1Ds Mark II is an older camera, and this will impact on things like noise etc.

Dave

[cosworth]

Jesus, the difference is negligible at %100. I'll second the thought on printing them and trying to tell them apart.

Makes me want a Mk II again to replace my 2 Mk I cameras. Thanks for posting this.

Noise is all about exposure. I'd like to know if left to the operator alone and a simple levels adjustment if the 1Ds could beat the 5D if exposed (to the right) in real world situations. Another plug for the link in my sig of course.

[4830Deuce]

5D def. has more color noise... I prefer the 1D in this test... The grain seems more film like... It also seems to keep the gradations smoother... Either way both are amazing cameras and I would love to have either...

JD

[Mark_Cohran]

I much prefer the 1Ds from the examples posted above. The 5D noise is much more mottled and less attractive to me.

Mark

[minime9us]

OK I paid for the 1ds Mark II today and it will be shipped out 2 day express so hopefully Wednesday I will have it. Dante where ever you are I am looking forward to those scripts you spoke of. Calico i look forward to more discussion and talks on my way to learn this beast. I will be posting photos as soon as i can, unless someone objects to that. I want to send something off to print as 30x40. I will be looking for suggestions on which photos would be good to try and also where to send to get that done. I know im putting the cart before the horse, Im just excited thats all.

[minime9us]

I will be purchasing my first L glass pretty soon as well looking for any suggestions. I was thinking about the 24-70 and soon the 70-200 2.8 to follow. As i already have a Tamron 200-500 thats really sharp. I will be covered pretty well I think with those lenses. Then i may go and get a few primes. Im thinking too far ahead now maybe i should stop now.
Thanks for listening.

[I Simonius]

Being a new 1DsMkII owner and a 5D owner, I figured I would compare noise at high ISO on both these cameras. I will say that I love both camera's but have in my perception seen less noise from the 5D. These test however showed something different. For these test both camera's used the same lens, same settings (as close as I could get them since the menus differ a bit), on a tripod. I am not an expert so this was an amateur's approach to noise testing. I have always noticed noise in the shadows so I used a dark subject. I shot raw and set the PS RAW parameters to same identical settings with no sharpening or noise reduction.


av a look at these orf of the 5D my son!;)

ISO3200 the lot

http://digital-finger.smugmug.com/gallery/1589195/1/71790113

[OviV]

I don't get why people get so freakin defensive because I dared to say that the difference in noise between the 1DsMkII and the 5D is not significant. Like I said, I have both cameras and love them. Get over it. I did not buy the 1Ds thinking it would be cleaner than the 5D, I bought it for a host of other reasons which I felt justified paying more than twice what a 5D costs.

Ovi

[Ronald S. Jr.]

av a look at these orf of the 5D my son!;)

ISO3200 the lot

http://digital-finger.smugmug.com/gallery/1589195/1/71790113

You can do that with any camera. It's called s***ty exposure. ;-)

[I Simonius]

You can do that with any camera. It's called s***ty exposure. ;-)

Actually I thought tey weren't that bad considering what light was available - I mean it was DARK - yeah well I had only just got the camera - I thought I did rather well under the circumstances

OH BOO HOO who am I kidding Im crap! BWAAAAAH, bwaaaaah! sob sob sniffle :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Double Negative]

The 1Ds is like any 1Dxx body compaired to the prosumer/consumer models.

They have less out-of-box noise reduction to preserve detail, leaving more up to you in PP. Run NeatImage or Noise Ninja on the images and watch it go away. The 1Dxx bodies are also more critical on exposure.

In the shots above, the 1Ds clearly has more noise in the midtones and highlights but less in the shadows as compared to the 5D.