First "concert" shoot also.

[ADPJD]

I am new to this whole forum thing. I just want some real constructive criticism from people that actually know what they are talking about, rather than friends just telling me that they are "good."

Where I was located, I think there were only 2 60 watt bulbs above in the very small room that it was located. I am still learning my SLR more and more everyday. I was trying to change the ISO to get clearer shots because I was trying to avoid using flash. However, I was unsuccessful for some reason and I dont know what I did wrong. I like the blurry effect that I was able to accomplish, but still, I'm curious of how to make crisp shots with the dim light and not having to use flash.

I have a few more, but they arent a good, and Im kinda lazy to post another thread. It took me a while to just get this one posted. Message me or comment any questions.




http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/ADPJD/Kevins%20Concert%20October2006/4bgfkmw.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/ADPJD/Kevins%20Concert%20October2006/2uoryie.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/ADPJD/Kevins%20Concert%20October2006/487k5yx.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/ADPJD/Kevins%20Concert%20October2006/2zyzyfm.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/ADPJD/Kevins%20Concert%20October2006/47ujmac.jpg


http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/ADPJD/Kevins%20Concert%20October2006/48g72q1.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/ADPJD/Kevins%20Concert%20October2006/48el0g4.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/ADPJD/Kevins%20Concert%20October2006/35l593a.jpg

[johnstoy]

How are you ADPJD,

Welcome to this section of the Forum...
Check the Sticky: at the top of the Performing Arts section of this forum for answers to the most commonly asked questions...
What are you using for a camera and lens choice?

I'm goint to a venue right now to take some pics...

later...

enjoy...

[ADPJD]

Sorry, I must have over looked that sticky.

It is discontinued because I bought it from a friend. But I believe it is a Canon EOS 300D.
I dont have any other lenses, just stock.

PS.... thanks for the welcome :D

[DwightMcCann]

First let me suggest that you give some explanation with your shared images so we know what we are looking at. It is best to name the group and the venue and maybe the date. How are you connected with the group/venue and what your goals are for your images. I would also be curious to know if you are a student.

[ADPJD]

Dear DwightMcCann,

Thanks for clarifying, I'm sorry that I didnt mention that information before. They don't have a specific name, it's just a whole bunch of my friends that were just playing together at a house "concert" in Oakland, California. It was held about 3 weeks ago.

With my photographs I was trying to capture the amount of energy that was held in that room. The room seemed about 12ftx20ft, and we cramed in loads of equipment and a good handleful of kids. With some of the photographs that are a blurred boy screaming into a phone (which he made into a mic) I was trying to capture how passionate he is about his music and how it is a big part of his life.

As for my goals, I'm actually not quite sure. First off, I dont even really know if Im capturing what I want to be capturing. I guess with this series of photos I was trying to capture alot of energy and emotion. I guess for more "crisp" photos that I was hoping for, I need to get a buttload of lenses.

Yes, I am a student. I just graduated from high school and attend the local junior college. It's probably obvious through my poor choice of wording and rookie photographs. Hah.:lol:

[Nick_b]

You don't need a.... bunch.... of lens. You could pick up a 50mm 1.8 for under $100. That could give you some pretty sharp low light pics. Also remeber that most of the sharp pics are run though noise reduction and sharpening. And go practice as much as you can. You'll learn what you want soon enough. Have a picture picked out in your head before a show and try to reproduce it.

As far as your pictures, I like #7 the most. I like shoes.

[DwightMcCann]

For what the situation was I think you did great! As NIck says, look into the 50mm f/1.8. I would suggest a tripod even if just a tabletop ... I often use a tabletop tripod to take very low light images before concerts start at the casino and some of them are very nice but you never know when it will be useful. Images in which everything but the people are crisp are often very striking. And again, welcome to POTN ... if you pursue this kind of photography then just keep bringing your stuff back ... not every image has to be publication quality or be perfect.

[ADPJD]

Actually now that I think about it, I think that I actually have the 50mm f/1.8 lens I remember having to buy a lens cover to protect it and I had to get a 50mm size. Anyways, trust me, if I had a nearby tabletop, I would have used it for sure. There was no space for a tripod! haha! Im serious, the room, was so small. If people were to stand side by side to show the length, it would probably come out to about 7 good sized people....Plus there was a guy that was there already filming the place, so his tripod took up most of the room; then there was a fat drumset and tons of amps. It was absolutely ridiculous.

Thanks for the good commentation! :) Everything helps

[ADPJD]

You don't need a.... bunch.... of lens. You could pick up a 50mm 1.8 for under $100. That could give you some pretty sharp low light pics. Also remeber that most of the sharp pics are run though noise reduction and sharpening. And go practice as much as you can. You'll learn what you want soon enough. Have a picture picked out in your head before a show and try to reproduce it.

As far as your pictures, I like #7 the most. I like shoes.

Me too...me too.:D

But ya, thats what I pretty much wanted to do; Get some low light sharper images. I'm not looking for perfection because obviously movement looks awesome :D (to me anyways), but sometimes with too much movement, it gets annoying.

However, isnt it true if i raised my ISO to 3200 that it would admit more light, therefore, able to speed up my SS to almost 1/1000 to get a pretty well lit picture?

[gardengirl13]

I haven't used one yet but maybe try a monopod. Takes up less space and will help steady things a bit.

[René Damkot]

I like the energy. Technically however, there is some room for improvement ;)
- Set WB (remotely) correct. In this case CWB might be a good option, otherwise, use Tungsten. (from the diferences in color I presume you now used AWB?)
- Shoot RAW if you have the CF cards / HDD space / computer for it. At least some RAW images. It will allow you to try out some different settings (like WB, EC) on an image. That way you can see what you like, and use those settings when shooting next time.
- Use a high ISO. ISO 3200 if you need to, otherwise ISO 1600. Only time I go below that, is when shooting outside or with flash.
- If you have it, use the 50/1.8
- Use a monopod. You can always make room for that, and it helps a big deal.
This (http://www.moonglade.net/~rene/Rock_ON_Roll/source/rhd20060428r_on_r0010.htm) is 1/6 s f/1.8 at ISO 3200. Without monopod *everything* would have been blurred.
- Use earplugs!
- Shoot lots and enjoy.

Oh, and welcome to POTN!

[ADPJD]

I like the energy. Technically however, there is some room for improvement ;)
- Set WB (remotely) correct. In this case CWB might be a good option, otherwise, use Tungsten. (from the diferences in color I presume you now used AWB?)
- Shoot RAW if you have the CF cards / HDD space / computer for it. At least some RAW images. It will allow you to try out some different settings (like WB, EC) on an image. That way you can see what you like, and use those settings when shooting next time.
- Use a high ISO. ISO 3200 if you need to, otherwise ISO 1600. Only time I go below that, is when shooting outside or with flash.
- If you have it, use the 50/1.8
- Use a monopod. You can always make room for that, and it helps a big deal.
This (http://www.moonglade.net/%7Erene/Rock_ON_Roll/source/rhd20060428r_on_r0010.htm) is 1/6 s f/1.8 at ISO 3200. Without monopod *everything* would have been blurred.
- Use earplugs!
- Shoot lots and enjoy.

Oh, and welcome to POTN!

Hehe, the earplugs would have definently been a handy thing to have! 3 weeks later, my ears still feel as if they are ringing!

Ya, I probably should have set the white balance. In photoshop I did play with the color balance a little bit, but I normally don't. Dang, I forgot about tungsten. Blah. Woops!:mad:

I've shot in RAW, but the thing is, I only have Adobe 7.0 and I can't work in RAW. Kind of a drag, and I dont have any money to buy the CS2. I wish! We have it at school, but I do the majority of my work at home.

I thought so about the ISO. Dang. Hah, Oh well; I'm learning.

Thanks again for the welcome and thanks for your advice!:D

[René Damkot]

Install DPP (came with the camera I think) or download it (probabely here (http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=DownloadDetailAct&fcategoryid=314&modelid=12929)).
It's free, and IMHO does a better job at raw conversion then ACR...