Water Polo 1st RAW Game

[WebMonkey]

This was my 1st time shooting the whole game RAW, most games I get about 300 to 400 images and felt overwhelmed at processing that many, and most of the images were just for the web. But parents are buying my prints now, and I need the control of shooting Raw to get a better product.

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1600 sec , ISO 400, F7.1, 300mm 2.8 IS

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[Tareq]

I don't come to sport section, but because i got that fast sport camera and later i am thinking to add new sport long prime lens i came here, and saw your shots.
All what i can say is ....... AMAZING (and no more comments).

I have to buy one long lens beginning of next year.

[SolPics]

Nice shots. Really like the first shot, you caught the action and the facial expression well.

[carsanbballs]

Are you using key words in the Meta data, I find it helps when trying to find shots of players as the season goes on? RAW takes extra time but it worth it, IMHO.
The water coming off the ball and the players face is really nice.

[MC3]

Great shots.

[Otta]

Webmonkey,

These simply stunning .

So my question is why F7.1 and not a small aperature with that beautiful lens.

Thanks
Roy

[WebMonkey]

Are you using key words in the Meta data, I find it helps when trying to find shots of players as the season goes on? RAW takes extra time but it worth it, IMHO.
The water coming off the ball and the players face is really nice.

Yea I'm useing Breeze for that, but I just started boing it.

OTTA
I shoot a higher F stops because the action is fast and I get more keepers, in the 1st image the ball in starting to blur. The AF on this lens is very fast, probably faster then my reaction time so shooting at 2.8 will look better but I may have missed this shoot. The image below is wide open and with 580

http://www.imagejunky.com/Steve.jpg

[T.D.]

Both are very nice shots. #1 is my favorite. You stopped the action and the water quite nicely. You captured a great expression on his face as well.

Thanks for sharing these. I've never seen water polo shots on here before.

[WebMonkey]

Do you thing the image would be enhanced if I remove the water drops from the shooter face. It looks like milk to me.

[Mike Reynolds]

nice job there

[T.D.]

Do you thing the image would be enhanced if I remove the water drops from the shooter face. It looks like milk to me.

I'm no expert, by any means, but my opinion is that they should stay. It's real, it's part of the image. It shows the action. I don't find it distracting.

That's just my 2 cents.

[WebMonkey]

Otta
Added a shot above to show wide open.

[Rehuel]

Wow, i'm gonna have to give RAW a try one of these days...

[Croasdail]

Nice - wish we had the sport out here to shoot. Very nice color..... well done.

[T.D.]

The 3rd one is really fabulous as well!

Excellent shots. How close are you when taking these?

[WebMonkey]

The 3rd one is really fabulous as well!

Excellent shots. How close are you when taking these?

Most the time about 25 to 40', I work the whole pool trying not get hit with the ball. I was at one game shooting with one other photographer when his 20D with a 70-200 2.8L took a direct hit and sent the whole rig to the deck, He picked up the pieces and left

http://www.imagejunky.com/jt_smith_small.jpg

[Otta]

Webmonkey

I shoot at a large private school in the uk and I shoot all types of sports including water polo and swimming . I am working with an indoor pool depending on the light I am wide open with a 70-200 2.8 giving me a max of 250th @ 1600 sometimes H (3200) . I have never thought of using my flash in there , as I have a problem with condesation . It is normally winter time follow hockey or rugby when the camera and lense are really cold and will take at least 15-20 mins to aclimatise .

Do you think the flash would take the condensation with out causing damage . I am not too concerned about the camera and lens they seem fine .

I am hoping to get the 300 2.8 this year as funds didn't allow last year , a new car beat off the lens as a priority.

Your shots are stunning and the smaller aperature doesn't cause a problem with the water as the backgound and as you said it gives you a lot more tollerance and saleable shots .

Can I ask how you set up your flash on the shots you showed me .

I have a problem with showing the images online because of the type of people I shoot which is a shame .

Thanks

Roy
Thanks

[WebMonkey]

Otta

Image post #16
Image taken as the pool lights where warming up.
Manual, 1600th, f2.8, ISO 1600, AF AI Servo,
580 ETTL High Speed sync +1/3
Spot Metering mode
AdobeRGB RAW
WB: Flash
Saturation: +1
Sharpness: 3
Contrast: +1

Image Post #7 only change was 580EX ETTL HSS +0, and about 10 more feet away.

I put a zip-lock bag over the flash on days that it rains or high condensation with rubber bands. The 580EX makes a big impact in “High Speed Sync” as you can see my shutter was at 1600th allowing me to still stop the action. After a test fire I upped the flash output +1/3.

I should have lowered my ISO to about 1000 and my shutter to, to get less noise, and a better print.

Thanks

[Otta]

Thanks

[Cybnew]

GREAT!!!! GREAT!!!! GREAT shots!

[tuggnet]

Do you thing the image would be enhanced if I remove the water drops from the shooter face. It looks like milk to me.

Great captures! I really like them all. I would like to see the image without the water drops. IMO it just may enhance the photo.

Cheers

[superdiver]

These are all first rate! I hope the parents realize what good shots they get to buy!

[primoz]

Personally I would say raw is overkill with such conditions as you had, but I'm not going to try to change your mind. It's your decision :)
Another thing... As someone suggested already, try to shoot with wider open lens. I don't mean f2.8, but something like f3.5 would be fine. You would get even a bit higher speed, you can lower iso even a bit more (even though iso400 is great already) and with this you get those nice sharp water drops splashing around. Otherwise you have two really great shoots here.

[WebMonkey]

Personally I would say raw is overkill with such conditions as you had, but I'm not going to try to change your mind. It's your decision :)
Another thing... As someone suggested already, try to shoot with wider open lens. I don't mean f2.8, but something like f3.5 would be fine. You would get even a bit higher speed, you can lower iso even a bit more (even though iso400 is great already) and with this you get those nice sharp water drops splashing around. Otherwise you have two really great shoots here.

With the night shots, I love having the choice RAW gives me with the White Balance and even with full sun; my color is changing with the water reflections all the time. I do like the idea of less noise then 400 give me, and shooting lower F# just incase I need to crop in tighter.

Steve:D