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MarkoPolo
5th of November 2006 (Sun), 21:30
I have taken to closing out using hibernation instead of stand-by or shut down, primarily because it saves so much time when opening Adobe bridge.

I notice that I can only do this 5 or 6 times in a row until I get an error message saying that the machine does not have adequate resources to run the api. If I don't use it for a few days, then it works again until it gets cranky!
I have a Gateway with dual AMD 64 bit processors, 2 gigs of ram and 250gigs of hard drive that is less than half full. I set the sleep button to hibernate in the power settings under control panel.

Any ideas of why this is happening?
Any suggestions on the wisdom of hibernating?

tim
5th of November 2006 (Sun), 22:05
I use standby myself, I reboot every couple of weeks, and i've never had a problem. Hibernate is a bit slower, but uses less power.

Wilt
5th of November 2006 (Sun), 22:27
I use hibernation on my laptop, too. But I also make the effort to reboot every couple of days as a safety measure, given the fact that some probrams latch onto RAM and do not give it up even when the program is ended. The issue is memory recovery, not stability of operation of the machine.

NordieBoy
5th of November 2006 (Sun), 23:58
Hibernate untill there's a problem and then reboot.

jfrancho
6th of November 2006 (Mon), 09:24
It's 11 seconds from power up to desktop on my machine, so I shut down. Reboots take about 35 seconds. Bridge does take about 10 seconds to fire up, but I can live with that.

MarkoPolo
6th of November 2006 (Mon), 10:03
Thanks for the replies. I haven't timed it, but hibernation restart is way faster than rebooting. I have a lot of photos and bridge takes probably 1-2 minutes to quit "futzing" around and be ready to use. That just drives me nuts!

jfrancho
6th of November 2006 (Mon), 10:06
Are you using distributed cache files, or centralized?

NordieBoy
6th of November 2006 (Mon), 13:38
Sounds like he's using a "normal" computer.

jfrancho
6th of November 2006 (Mon), 13:46
Sounds like he's using a "normal" computer.LOL. As opposed to a mac ;)
Centralized cache files might be choking up the system. If using distributed, once the cache is built for a specific directory, Bridge will work a little faster when you browse back to the dir. You just have to be sure to let it finish buiding the cache, which can take a few minutes even on the fastest computer.

NordieBoy
6th of November 2006 (Mon), 17:50
As opposed to a souped up photo editing machine (running Linux) :D

CyberDyneSystems
6th of November 2006 (Mon), 19:01
Turn off Hibernation for best performance,
See this thread section II-5
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2226390#post2226390

NordieBoy
6th of November 2006 (Mon), 22:42
The Hibernation feature of XP takes up a lot of unnecessary hard drive space. The space it takes up depends on your RAM. If you have 256 MB RAM, Hibernation takes up 254 MB, if you have 4GB of RAM .. hybernation takes up 4GB of hard drive space! and so on. Hibernation not only sucks up HD space, but in doing so it is also using resources, CPU cycles and the IDE/SATA bus to make these saves. Obviously the more RAM you have, the more time and resource intensive these Hard Drive saves are.. and so on.

"Standby" and "Hibernation" are not they same thing. You will keep the "Standby" feature when you disable Hibernation.

I thought hibernation did not use resources until you were actually hibernating.
That's like saying that shutting down is resource intensive.

CyberDyneSystems
7th of November 2006 (Tue), 00:50
You know that's a good point, I may have to edit my other post. I looks like for some reason I was confusing the hibernation "swap file" with how the page file works when I wrote that, the page file of course being a constant source of system slow downs in systems without enough RAM.. (this is another chapter all together)

Also, let me just state that Hibernate can be involved in all sorts of driver issues,. unless a driver for a peice pf hardware is specifically written with the idea of being able to be restarted (the driver) at a time other than the boot up, (ie: waking from Hibernate) you can get a multitude of flaky symptoms. My own experiences have been just that, either Hibernate does not behave well, or in many cases, it simply is not even there as an option due to unsupported hardware. This has colored my own opinion of it as a function,

But if you have a system where it works well, then I guess it makes sense to use it and ignore whatever issues others may have had. Just know that as mentioned in earlier posts, you will eventually want to reboot, as driver "leaks" may not be re-filled by hibernating.

NordieBoy
7th of November 2006 (Tue), 02:56
Yep.
Use hibernate until problem occurs then reboot.
Some computers have no problem, some do.

Especially usefull on "lower" powered machines as they take much much less time to boot from hibernation than from scratch.

MarkoPolo
7th of November 2006 (Tue), 14:09
Thanks again for teaching me more! I have no idea what centralized vs. distributed cache means, but it seems my machine doesn't play well with hibernate. Oh, well, it seemed like a good idea!

CyberDyneSystems
7th of November 2006 (Tue), 14:43
After this I tied both Hibernate and Suspend (Standby?) on my new Workstation.. it never woke up form either! :lol: Had to hard reboot to get back up and running.

Oh well,. I think it's the RAID controllers that play havoc with these functions, I know we had similar issues with SCSI controllers back when they were more common.

NordieBoy
7th of November 2006 (Tue), 22:07
RAID?
SCSI?

Oh, you're one of "those" prople.

:D

CyberDyneSystems
8th of November 2006 (Wed), 00:38
:lol: Oh, does that explain a lot? :lol:

Yep, here's my latest incarnation;
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=209277

Honestly, other than my laptop, I haven't run a system without some form of RAID for about 8 years.