Canon Digital Rebel Flash dealio

[burkdog]

Can you use other nice flash attachments with this camera? I notice it has some kind of built-in pop-up flash. Will I be able to use other kinds of flashes with it, or not?

If I want to use different kinds of flashes, will I have to buy that 1500 dollar job?

Thanks,
Greg :?

[PacAce]

Can you use other nice flash attachments with this camera? I notice it has some kind of built-in pop-up flash. Will I be able to use other kinds of flashes with it, or not?

If I want to use different kinds of flashes, will I have to buy that 1500 dollar job?

Thanks,
Greg :?

Yes, you can use an external flash with the DRebel. I'm not sure what you mean by "that 1500 dollar job" but other than the external flash, there's nothing else that you need to buy to use the external flash.

[burkdog]

1500 dollar job = this guy... http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=277768&is=REG

Thanks for the info. :)

[dn7elson]

1500 dollar job = this guy...

That's $1,500 for just the body. You will also want at least 1 lens.

The Digital Rebel takes the Canon 220EX, 420EX and 550EX external flashes.

[ilya]

You can't be seriously considering buying one or the other with apparently absolutely zero knowledge about any of this SLR business? Well, its one way to learn. Read some of the links stickied on this forum. Go on dpreview.com to see reviews of both cams. Good luck.

[burkdog]

Well, I've read some stuff, and I'm asking some questions here...

I know I want to buy a Canon digital professional level camera, and I can't afford that really expensive one, so I guess my choices are between the 800 dollar job, and the 1500 dollar job. It's a pretty narrow field, the way I see it.

And yes, duh, I'm aware I will also need some lenses (ya think?). I'm looking at the 1500 dollar job, by the way. lol

8)

[CoolToolGuy]

Either 'job' will allow you to use an external flash. If you go for a Canon flash, get one of the 'EX' series jobs.
Check out www.canoneos.com and look at the EOS System Chart. It will show you what dealios you can use.
Hope this helps.

Have Fun
Rick 8)

[burkdog]

I bet those flash dealios use a lot of juice? Can you get some kind of jumbo battery, or can you have a powersource just for the flash, or can you plug it into the wall or something???

:shock:

[CoolToolGuy]

I have the 550EX, and it uses 4 'AA' batteries. It supposedly makes pretty good use of them, but I have the Quantum 1/Compact. It replaces the batteries with a battery pack that attaches to the tripod socket and hooks up via a cable into the battery compartment. There are several other add-on battery options from Quantum, as well as some Canon battery packs that don't replace the batteries, just boost them.
Have Fun
Rick 8)

[TeraGram93013]

I have the 550ex.

I find it rather conservative on the power.

I'm using NiMH rechargeable batteries, purchased at Target or Costco.

Although I generally dislike using flash, I find myself in various situations where I have no choice (indoors, cloudy/marine layer day, fast moving children). The response time with the 500ex seems very fast.

It is nearly as complex as my camera, however.

If you buy a 10D and a 550ex, be prepared to do a lot of reading on your own.

[robertwgross]

You can't be seriously considering buying one or the other with apparently absolutely zero knowledge about any of this SLR business? Well, its one way to learn.

The best lessons are learned the hard way.

---Bob Gross---

[burkdog]

You can't be seriously considering buying one or the other with apparently absolutely zero knowledge about any of this SLR business? Well, its one way to learn.

The best lessons are learned the hard way.

---Bob Gross---

So, you guys are recommending that I don't buy a camera? As if one is a big turd and the other one is a diamond, and since I'm not an expert yet I have only a 50/50 chance of guessing right and buying the right one? I guess it would be a hard lesson if that were the case and I guessed wrong. But I hardly think that is the case. I'm sure you guys like to imagine that it takes a photography genius to make an informed buying decision about a camera, but it doesn't.

I know almost everything I need to know, and I didn't have to go to the photography school of hard knocks to figure it out. I'm choosing a Canon based on word-of-mouth and past experiences with other low-end consumer Canon products. I know how much I can afford. That narrows the field down to 2 cameras. I"ve read a few posts on these forums, and will most likely read a review or two. And guess what? That's all it takes.

Hard lesson to be learned? I seriously doubt it. Worst case scenario? I decide I want a different camera and sell the old one. Ouch.

[ilya]

So, you guys are recommending that I don't buy a camera? As if one is a big turd and the other one is a diamond, and since I'm not an expert yet I have only a 50/50 chance of guessing right and buying the right one? I guess it would be a hard lesson if that were the case and I guessed wrong. But I hardly think that is the case. I'm sure you guys like to imagine that it takes a photography genius to make an informed buying decision about a camera, but it doesn't.

I know almost everything I need to know, and I didn't have to go to the photography school of hard knocks to figure it out. I'm choosing a Canon based on word-of-mouth and past experiences with other low-end consumer Canon products. I know how much I can afford. That narrows the field down to 2 cameras. I"ve read a few posts on these forums, and will most likely read a review or two. And guess what? That's all it takes.

Hard lesson to be learned? I seriously doubt it. Worst case scenario? I decide I want a different camera and sell the old one. Ouch.


Hmm. No, it doesn't take a genius, but it does take at least a rudimentary level of knowledge about what you're getting, compared to what you intend to use it for. So how much can you really afford, did you know that the "starter kit" for either the 10D or 300D really will run you about $4-6k in the first 6 months to a year. That's if you want a half-way decent setup. Another question, maybe we're mistaken about your intentions, and you want to be a pro sports photographer. You'll need a better camera then a "1,500 dealio". How do you know you won't be happier with a good all-around cam like the Sony DSC F828, no need to change lenses, and it will do 95% of what a 10D will do? Did you know that a G3 point and shoot can take significantly better pictures then a 10D in almost any situation (given the right operator)? Whatever, its your coin bro. At the end of the day, both 300D and 10D are great cams.

[CoolToolGuy]

So, you guys are recommending that I don't buy a camera? As if one is a big turd and the other one is a diamond, and since I'm not an expert yet I have only a 50/50 chance of guessing right and buying the right one? I guess it would be a hard lesson if that were the case and I guessed wrong. But I hardly think that is the case. I'm sure you guys like to imagine that it takes a photography genius to make an informed buying decision about a camera, but it doesn't.

I know almost everything I need to know, and I didn't have to go to the photography school of hard knocks to figure it out. I'm choosing a Canon based on word-of-mouth and past experiences with other low-end consumer Canon products. I know how much I can afford. That narrows the field down to 2 cameras. I"ve read a few posts on these forums, and will most likely read a review or two. And guess what? That's all it takes.

Hard lesson to be learned? I seriously doubt it. Worst case scenario? I decide I want a different camera and sell the old one. Ouch.

Some folks treat this like a marriage where if you make the wrong choice it can cost you big to get out. You don't seem to feel that way. Go for it. At the end of the day, it's just a camera. I like Canon, and I probably always will. But you're not a bad person if you choose something other than what I have. As mentioned elsewhere, sometimes folks have to learn by experience.

Have Fun
Rick 8)

[scottbergerphoto]

Burkdog,
When you walk into a hornet's nest of avid photographers and start talking about "dealios" and "$1500 jobs", you have to expect a little sh*t.
Nobody minds when people of limited photographic knowledge ask questions. It helps however to demonstrate a little respect for the craft. In spite of the good natured humor that sometimes goes on, some people here actually take what they do seriously.
Scott

[tpinchback]

"Tru that"

[CyberDyneSystems]

Personally,

I think the Digital Rebel would be an excellent choice. :wink:

If you get the kit, it comes with a pretty nice lens for $1,000.00 even.

Then all you need is your flash, perhaps the 420ex?

[Belmondo]

Burkdog:
Here's a good battle plan for you:
1. Buy the $999 dealio.
2. Buy the 550EX flash.
3. Take a s**t load of pictures. Practice. Practice. Practice.
If your results are commensurate with your expectations for a 'professional level camera,' then you're golden. If not, then come back to the forum and start exchanging ideas with the folks here who will be more than happy to help you with whatever you're doing.

There's much more to this business than just making an 'informed decision.' If it was that easy, there would be no choices---only informed decisions. The fact is, either camera has the potential for producing high quality photographs. But then, so do most $500 P&S cameras. You seem to have a lack of clarity as to how deeply you want to become involved in this pursuit. In that case, the least investment you can make with the potential of producing the desired result is your best bet. Since none of these things are 'state of the art' for more than a few months, there can be little justification in buying anything more expensive than the $999 dealio. By the time you're ready for the $1500 job, there will be something better available, and likely it will be cheaper.

Just because you can afford a 10D doesn't mean that you're ready for it.

I wan't.

Good luck.

Tom

[Ellie]

It seems like you have hardly any knowledge of cameras other than what you've read. If I were you I'd sit back a while and read a whole lot more before I made a purchase that big. You might be able to afford to buy anything you want but really study what you're doing.

Ellie

P.S. I wish I were as smart as you are!

[G3]

It seems like you have hardly any knowledge of cameras other than what you've read. If I were you I'd sit back a while and read a whole lot more before I made a purchase that big. You might be able to afford to buy anything you want but really study what you're doing.

Ellie

P.S. I wish I were as smart as you are!


Agreed. In fact, I would recommend buying an inexpensive film SLR first and becoming familiar with SLRs (especially since the idea of selling and upgrading doesn't bother you), and general photography first. You can buy a film Rebel and whatever lenses and flashes you like, then sell that body and buy a 10D body. Photography with a Drebel or 10D is not like using a point-and-shoot digital. These cameras are designed for people who understand photography and digital photography and have at least a rudimentary knowledge of post-processing with Photoshop or Elements. Learning both aspects at the same time from the ground up is going to be quite a learning curve, and may prove disappointing to you if you are looking for achieving good photos quickly.