NSM (****) Rally in Austin... [Archive] - Canon Digital Photography Forums

VisualOddity

13th of November 2006 (Mon), 11:15

My second ever attempt at PJ, and I love it. Sadly, I was limited to a kit lens and a 50mm 1.8, but no excuses, I did my best. What do you guys think? :blink:

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VisualOddity

13th of November 2006 (Mon), 11:16

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VisualOddity

13th of November 2006 (Mon), 11:16

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VisualOddity

13th of November 2006 (Mon), 11:17

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Stavhp

13th of November 2006 (Mon), 15:49

Absoloutly increidble,Awesome pictures mate
Sent tehm to a newspaper?

VisualOddity

13th of November 2006 (Mon), 16:40

Thanks!
And No :( I'd like to, but I don't know where to start. I really would like to get published though at some point... :)

Niall

13th of November 2006 (Mon), 17:38

http://visualoddity.com/perm/National_Socialist_Party_Rally_0013.jpg

That's my favorite, closely followed by this:

http://visualoddity.com/perm/National_Socialist_Party_Rally_0018.jpg

Nice dark one that.

Shame about the morons you had to photograph ;)

VisualOddity

14th of November 2006 (Tue), 15:38

Thanks... :)

adam*

14th of November 2006 (Tue), 19:01

Great work. And I agree with Niall, how can people be so insensitive.

OptimizedDucati

15th of November 2006 (Wed), 05:17

That chick with the bandan over her face...

For some reason I find her extremely attactive.

stupot

15th of November 2006 (Wed), 05:24

Hmm...not sure how to respond to these. It's pretty sad...

That chick with the bandan over her face...

For some reason I find her extremely attactive.

its the camera right?:)

OptimizedDucati

15th of November 2006 (Wed), 07:08

It must be. Actually I find her attractive in only 1 picture. (I just saw the rest of them)

urbandancer

15th of November 2006 (Wed), 08:38

Very very good i like the all. Great images

Reflection

15th of November 2006 (Wed), 13:15

The closeups of the helmets, where you can see the glasses underneath, are amazing.

VisualOddity

15th of November 2006 (Wed), 18:55

Thanks everyone... :)
Now these should help a bit in the future... :)

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=240265

squashed

15th of November 2006 (Wed), 19:47

Those are very good pics....very thought provoking indeed.

3Honu

16th of November 2006 (Thu), 00:22

I like this one because I know he's thinking, "I get to beat me up some skinhead today!"
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I like this one because the bandana will do NOTHING to hinder identifying her due to the tattoos.
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I like this one and I am pretty sure that the officers in the pics wouldn't mind a a copy or two.
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How was the reaction by the officer's when you were taking their pictures? How close did they let you get to them?

VisualOddity

16th of November 2006 (Thu), 08:58

The officers were great. Very nice, and had no issues w/ me taking thier pics. :)

That first one you posted: There was a guy next to him holding $40 and yelling at the NSM's that he wanted an "NSM blowjob" and a LOT of stuff liie that. The cop was having trouble containing himself. Then the the guy said, "Oh, maybe I speak German then!" and started yelling all the same stuff at them in German, the cop just started openly cracking up (still trying to contain it), which is when I saw the opporitunity to shoot. It was halarious... lol

Mr. Clean

16th of November 2006 (Thu), 15:52

Those are impressive. Well exposed, composed, and most importantly, EMOTIONAL! Those spark emotions from all sides on many different levels. I'd call your local paper and ask them when you get more shots like that.

matt1987

16th of November 2006 (Thu), 16:46

"Oh, maybe I speak German then!"

:(:(:(:(:(:(

I can't believe how ppl would be that stupid to still believe in that n*azi crap. I mean, didn't "we" (me as a german saying that) learn? I wasn't born when all this happened, but I can't believe people actually believe in that. Seriously, you must be sick in the head to have an attitude like that. The worst part is that everyone all around the world still thinks Germans are a bunch of n*azis. It's just sad.

This really makes me sad..

Regards, Matt

PS: by the way... It should've been "N*azis Raus" not "aus", just for the language part ;)

-spam-

17th of November 2006 (Fri), 00:47

I love the pics. Some are a bit dark for my liking, but you were photographing some very dark folks.

Love this one though, just because you can almost guess what he is thinking given the occasion.
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AJ711

17th of November 2006 (Fri), 13:23

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What is going on in that picture?

And I find the female correspondant attractive as well. Might just be the two full sleeve tattoos, but I can't figure out what draws me to her.

And it really is a shame that there are people who still live by those ideals and beliefs. Such shallowness and inability to compromise is rediculous. Some great shots, by the way. Maybe a group shot of the anti-protesters to show the general (and seemingly more widespread) feelings to really capture what happened that day. Either way, very nice pictures.

Chio

17th of November 2006 (Fri), 14:24

Even I'm attracted to the girl with the sleeves - and I am a girl!

Great shots though. I'm glad you posted so many!

3Honu

17th of November 2006 (Fri), 15:23

Matt,
Being non-German I think I can safely say that the world today does not view Germany as being full of ****s.

To those that are attracted to the female correspondant: Judging by her tattoos she is one of the protesters or of the same idealogy as them. I am pretty sure there were anarchist and other groups there as well.

chet79

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 02:13

love em... I feel as if I were right there!

3Honu

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 02:19

The new post and my subscription of it brought me back. Is n.a.z.i. (****) really in the swear filter? Because I don't think I put an actual swear word in there.

Edit, well yes it is. That's the word insdie the parenthesis. Hmmmm.

michael_

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 05:06

awesome photos tells the story just perfectly like a good PJ should.

Bas

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 10:50

Awesome photography there, nice work!

And they should open a can of whoop-ass on those facists.. they make me sick.

Miyagi-san

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 11:26

very good shots....and yes, the girl is HOT :D

great PJ work...the pics are a tad dark for me as well, but it works very well here.

JawsofLife252

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 15:21

Great shots, very thought provoking. I love how you tried to catch emotion in the faces on both sides, awesome.

Zepher

2nd of January 2007 (Tue), 06:33

awesome pictures.
I was expecting to see some cars in this post since the first thing that comes to me when I read Rally is cars.

VisualOddity

6th of March 2007 (Tue), 17:33

Thanks :cool: I am really hoping I get a chance to shoot something like this again soon. :)

funf

7th of March 2007 (Wed), 18:12

I really love these shots, they capture emotion.

Some of the people there confuse me, such as the "Anti-racist skinheads" as is says on the jackets, the anti-fascist n@zi veteran in the wheelchair, and the girl with the che guevara tattoo. as far as i know che was a communist (far left politically) and n@zis were fascist (far right).

I guess it jsut goes to show how intelligent these people really are.

VisualOddity

7th of March 2007 (Wed), 20:16

I really love these shots, they capture emotion.

Some of the people there confuse me, such as the "Anti-racist skinheads" ...Thanks! :)

Also, just to clarify... Skinheads and Racism do NOT go hand in hand. Thats a common misconception, thanks to all the racist skins out there, but not accurate. Skinheads were all about unity and working class pride back in the day, and race wasn't an issue. There are still lots of "Traditional Skinheads" out there that have nothing against anyone of any skin color. There are also lots of SHARPs out there, which stands for SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice. Just food for though... ;)

:)

rowdyred94

7th of March 2007 (Wed), 21:01

Wow, what an intense series.

And I'm attracted to the girl who's attracted to the other girl. :oops: :p

cbock

9th of March 2007 (Fri), 17:17

nice shots. really does stir your emotions. :(

not_timmins

9th of March 2007 (Fri), 19:36

Keep Austin weird. (just kidding)

A couple great shots with the sunlight and skin tones. The girl with Che was pretty striking. I do think a couple photos are missing something... for example, I can't tell what the two guys walking/running with the police escort are doing, etc.

I also wish the last photo capture the whole flag.

R_Metzel

9th of March 2007 (Fri), 19:45

Great series!

oiva

10th of March 2007 (Sat), 14:59

i love the "follow your leader pic"

MDJAK

10th of March 2007 (Sat), 22:12

You've emminently succeeded in telling the story of the day.

Great shots.

mark

cgratti

10th of March 2007 (Sat), 23:28

Why are they hiding their faces, because they are cowards. If they are supporting the cause there is no need to hide their faces. None of those people have any idea of what that symbol and what they believe in really did to humanity. They cannot fathom the loss of life because of 1 man with an idea. People like this make me sick.

I do love the photos, you did a great job of portraying the mood and feeling.

VisualOddity

11th of March 2007 (Sun), 08:34

Andy_T

8th of May 2007 (Tue), 19:11

Why are they hiding their faces, because they are cowards. If they are supporting the cause there is no need to hide their faces.

Well, let's say the people who are peacefully holding their march there have been known to be less peaceful when they encounter one of the anti-rallye protesters or reporters who is on his own at a later stage. Plus, they normally do not really believe in peaceful demonstrations that much when there's a bunch of them in a dark alleyway at night :rolleyes:

Great images, my favourites are the pictures of the cops and the reporter!

Best regards,
Andy

kenyc

8th of May 2007 (Tue), 21:51

S.E.V.

8th of May 2007 (Tue), 22:30

Amazing shots. But i don't get why they cover there faces, but yet display there tattoos? I mean the tats can be another way of finding the individual if they commit a wrong doing. But it is amazing on how there are still natzi's in America. WOW! I like how this rally didn't end like the rally in Mc Arthur Park, Shoot the immigrants but not the racists. WTF? Just goes to show you how messed up the world has become now. What a shame.

Sonic Infidel

9th of May 2007 (Wed), 10:36

Those are amazing pictures! You need to send these to the local paper, and then send some to U.S. News and World Report, TIME, Newsweek, etc.

I also found the female photog attractive. I love strong women with good ink.

VisualOddity

9th of May 2007 (Wed), 10:55

newton

9th of May 2007 (Wed), 17:51

+1 on the attractive female photog.

VisualOddity

12th of August 2008 (Tue), 15:12

+1 on the attractive female photog.
:cool:

mattograph

12th of August 2008 (Tue), 15:17

Wonderful work!

If you submit them to a paper, don't send any of your photoshop work. Altering photos is a big no no unless its editorial, and if they suspect that you "treated" the photo, they may not respond to your stuff ever.

Flo

12th of August 2008 (Tue), 15:21

I am speechless.the photos are amazing...the emotion is sharp....

kjtw73

12th of August 2008 (Tue), 15:50

Thanks for all the compliments everyone. I really appreciate it very much. Lately I haven't been quite as motivated to go shoot. Thanks to financial issues, I am down to one lens (a 28-105 3.5+), so that hasn't helped. But seeing all these comments really makes me wanna go shoot. It reminds me that people actually like seeing my work. lol

So thanks guys, I really do appreciate all the comments. :)

Personally, I have used the same lens (28-105 3.5-4.5 USM) for years! It has been my walk around lens and most of the shots that I have taken were with it....

That being said, it was retired last week and replaced with a new 24-70 2.8L that I am starting to love even more.

You got some great shots there! Good job...a good time later of course...

evorgsumaf

13th of August 2008 (Wed), 09:48

Wow these are powerfull. I know the OP was in '06, and I am really late, but these are really good. Oh and I am digging the Hot photog girl.

evorgsumaf

13th of August 2008 (Wed), 09:58

Sorry for the double post, but I just went into the images again. And it absolutely kills me that there are still these kinds of people around. AMAZING!