Canon has gone Public with EOS 1D MkII @ Canon Japan

[CyberDyneSystems]

The Official release on Canon Japan folks!

http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm2/index.html


..and it's in English! :)

[roanjohn]

If this is any indication......the successor to the 10D might just have the same 8mpx CMOS sensor...........

DIGIC II??? :shock:

This camera is the bomb!!!

Ro1

[kafene]

The Official release on Canon Japan folks!

http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm2/index.html


..and it's in English! :)

I feel sick. I hope that when I need another digital as back-up, the price on that bad boy will be affordable.

kafene.

[Belmondo]

Boy, that sure looks good to me, especially the 1.3X crop factor and the 8+ megapixels resolution. Is there any 'official' word on what the street price is going to be? If it comes in anywhere near $3,200, I will own one before the end of the year.

Now, if they'd only make it in silver. :wink:

[CyberDyneSystems]

Still nothing conclusive,.

I've heard everything from under $3,000.00 to $4,000.00 plus ++

It seems to me,. and this is just my own observation,. that if Canon wants to keep the 1Ds at $7K... then this camera will HAVE to be listed at about $4,500.00 or so... :(

But then again,. they may want to blow Nikon out of the Water and drop the 1Ds price at the same time :mrgreen:

[kafene]

Now, if they'd only make it in silver. :wink:

SILVER?! You are a sick man :wink:

kafene.

[Vegas Poboy]

Great now I don't have to got to the PMA :D
I can use that time for making money

[CyberDyneSystems]

Oh yeah,. I'm jonesing for this baby BAD!

I passed up my dream lens to hold onto the funds for this Camera...
I am definately allready amking plans..

In fact I was about to buy a 1D about 6 weeks ago when I thought better of it knowing PMA was on the way...

[CyberDyneSystems]

http://cweb.canon.jp/newsrelease/2004-01/pr_ef28300.html

Sorry ,. in Japanese,. but these have prices in Yen!

Can anyone convert?

The 28-300mm "L" is 330,000 Yen ..?

It has a 77mm filter (cool!)

[scotgasch]

330,000 yen is roughly 3112.00 USD :cry:
Quite expensive I think...

I am gonna have to sell ALOT of plasma to buy this sucker.....

Anyone need a kidney...will trade....

[CyberDyneSystems]

Official press releases have hit DPreview

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/04012904canoneos1dmkii.asp

$4,500.00 :( I hope to god that is MSRP

The 28-300mm L IS

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/04012901canon28300is.asp

@ $2,500.00... that HAS to be MSRP!!!!!!!! :)

[CyberDyneSystems]

1D MkII with 28-300mm IS L mounted

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/PMA/Canon/ef28300mm-1dmkii.jpg

[scotgasch]

ME WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Belmondo]

330,000 yen = $3,112.42

Too bad the exchange rate is the same as when I was in Japan in 1962.
Back then, one dollar equalled 360 yen.

[typer77]

A bunch of shops are kicking out the old 1D here in Japan. but they are STILL 470000Yen or so. I doubt if the 1D II willl be that cheap though... A brand new 10D costs 198000Yen here and that's what I paid :x

[CyberDyneSystems]

DPreview's Preview... it's all happening so fast! :shock: :shock:

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos1dmkii/

[CyberDyneSystems]

You realize the " .5" in the " 8.5" burst rate was added just to kick sand in the D2H's face :mrgreen:

[scotgasch]

Thanks CDS......

I WAS working on my web page and now you got me all wound up.....

I find myself looking around at things I can sell to get one :roll:

[kafene]

1D MkII with 28-300mm IS L mounted

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/PMA/Canon/ef28300mm-1dmkii.jpg

Size DOES matter !!! :wink:

kafene.

[Morden]

A burst of 20 RAW 8.2 MP frames at 8.5 FPS.

Also, it apparently attaches ICC profiles to image files. Nice.

I like it! :D

[outoffocus]

It is a beauty. But until they get rid of the 1.3x crop factor I won't be having wet dreams about it. I'll stick with my 10D for now. Am I the only one bothered by the lack of field of view (even with the 17-35L) relative to my good old 35mm?




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[Morden]

I do miss field of view with my 10D. The 16-35 isn't quite so impressive (FOV-wise) with the 1.6 cropping factor. 1.3 is (obviously) better, though a full-frame sensor would be nice.

Like you, I will continuing with my 10D for the foreseeable future. :)

[Morden]

I notice that, here in the UK, Park Cameras are already taking deposits for 1D MK II bodies.

I've left my credit cards with a friend and told him not to return them for three months.

[mvrekum]

It's not available until late April
Production sceduled to 4000 units/month

See http://www.japancorp.net/Article.Asp?Art_ID=6391

The price is set in Europe to € 4599 (Canon Germany)

[Morden]

It's not available until late April
Hence Park are taking deposits rather than orders. :)

I always want shiny new things when they are first announced. In three months time I will have regained what little sense I have.

According to Park, the RRP in the UK will be £3499. If that is the case then the initial "street" price will be nearer £3000. I would be tempted at that price!

[IanD]

In the spriit of helping my fellow members and friends here who are having seizures trying to figure out how to come up with the funds for the new "hot rod" I will make a very large and personal sacrifice and offer to purchase (for cash :!: ) their used 10D's for the princely sum of $50.00 CDN or US funds.
I know that is is overly generous, but hey, I'm that type of guy :lol:
Interested parties may contact me by e-mail at
thatdamncanadian@wintersucks.ca

[kahfluie]

I'd love to have one... but I purchased my 10D back in June... if I got the 1D MKII my wife would probably divorce me... .lemme think... 1D MKII... divorce... 1D MKII.,.. divorce... hmmmm.... :) - I think I'll hang on to my 10D for a while. :)

[CoolToolGuy]

In the spriit of helping my fellow members and friends here who are having seizures trying to figure out how to come up with the funds for the new "hot rod" I will make a very large and personal sacrifice and offer to purchase (for cash :!: ) their used 10D's for the princely sum of $50.00 CDN or US funds.


I would also like to assist in the recycling effort. I, too, will offer $50 US for a good, used 10D (or an original 1D). Cash. I'll pay the shipping, too. :D :D

Have Fun
Rick 8)

[Tom W]

In the spriit of helping my fellow members and friends here who are having seizures trying to figure out how to come up with the funds for the new "hot rod" I will make a very large and personal sacrifice and offer to purchase (for cash :!: ) their used 10D's for the princely sum of $50.00 CDN or US funds.


I would also like to assist in the recycling effort. I, too, will offer $50 US for a good, used 10D (or an original 1D). Cash. I'll pay the shipping, too. :D :D

Have Fun
Rick 8)

Ha!! $75.

[Vegas Poboy]

More info @ http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/index.asp

[CoolToolGuy]

In the spriit of helping my fellow members and friends here who are having seizures trying to figure out how to come up with the funds for the new "hot rod" I will make a very large and personal sacrifice and offer to purchase (for cash :!: ) their used 10D's for the princely sum of $50.00 CDN or US funds.


I would also like to assist in the recycling effort. I, too, will offer $50 US for a good, used 10D (or an original 1D). Cash. I'll pay the shipping, too. :D :D

Have Fun
Rick 8)

Ha!! $75.

Geez, let's not get in a bidding war, but okay, I'll throw in an original F1 with a 50mm 1.4 as a trade and allow the seller to return to yesteryear :roll: :D

Have Fun
Rick 8)

[Pekka]

It is a beauty. But until they get rid of the 1.3x crop factor I won't be having wet dreams about it. I'll stick with my 10D for now. Am I the only one bothered by the lack of field of view (even with the 17-35L) relative to my good old 35mm?

I'd be happy to get some more out from wide angle compared to 10D, and happy to have 1.3X so that I still would not have to buy and carry and pay 4000 USD for 300/2.8.

For me it is very important to have 100% viewfinder coverage, and that it has!

Now I'd like to know about its shutter noise in single shot mode....

[IanD]

In the spriit of helping my fellow members and friends here who are having seizures trying to figure out how to come up with the funds for the new "hot rod" I will make a very large and personal sacrifice and offer to purchase (for cash :!: ) their used 10D's for the princely sum of $50.00 CDN or US funds.


I would also like to assist in the recycling effort. I, too, will offer $50 US for a good, used 10D (or an original 1D). Cash. I'll pay the shipping, too. :D :D

Have Fun
Rick 8)
OK so we have a bidding war here....
$75.02
:lol:

Ha!! $75.

[PacAce]

I notice that, here in the UK, Park Cameras are already taking deposits for 1D MK II bodies.

I've left my credit cards with a friend and told him not to return them for three months.

That should be just about when the 1D MK IIs start hitting the shelves. Good timing and good idea...start building up that credit line now. :mrgreen:

[Tom W]

OK so we have a bidding war here....
$75.02
:lol:



Always putting your 2 cents in, aren't you? :D

[IanD]

OK so we have a bidding war here....
$75.02
:lol:



Always putting your 2 cents in, aren't you? :D
After the lens purchases this past few weeks that is all I got left :!: :lol:

[typer77]

330,000 yen = $3,112.42

Too bad the exchange rate is the same as when I was in Japan in 1962.
Back then, one dollar equalled 360 yen.

But in the retail here in Japan, it would probabaly be something like 250000Yen when it hits the store. The good newx is for you guys in the US, it will be even cheaper in the US in most cases.

It looks like they will be available inthe second half of April - according to the web page.

[EoSD30fReAk]

I don't mind the 1.3x i want it anyways!!!

[GenEOS]

Looks like a darn good upgrade from ill focusing D30/60/10D's. No scratch that, I am not going to bundle the New Mark II with those bodies. I believe it is a step above in all the right places. That is, if you were struggling to use your D60/10D's for a lot of sports in low lit situations...

I plan on buying one as soon as they let us normal folk at them. Whenever that is. Even at $4500 I have decided it is worth the dependability and speed for sports photography.

Don't go getting all wadded up if you are a fellow d30/60/10d owner, they are all fine cameras, but each is a little different, better or worse than the others. I believe that the 1DMK2 is more suitable for what I need. I am not putting down the 10d's....

[Jim Larson]

Don't go getting all wadded up if you are a fellow d30/60/10d owner, they are all fine cameras, but each is a little different, better or worse than the others. I believe that the 1DMK2 is more suitable for what I need. I am not putting down the 10d's....

Hey! My 10D cost 1/3 the price of the 1D-II!

The difference is a 300/4L-IS *and* a 70-200/2.8L-IS.

I have *nothing* to be ashamed of carrying around a 10D.

[Morden]

I have *nothing* to be ashamed of carrying around a 10D.

Nor do I! :)

Many a nice picture have came my way through my 70-200 f2.8 and my 10D.

I would like a 1D MK II, but my credit cards are current being kept in a solid state only by frequently refilled liquid nitrogen.

[drisley]

The 1D MKII was just put on shelves here in Canada yesterday.
I picked one up and took a few test shots today. Not too bad.
:wink:

Now I have to go out to pick up a few L lenses to go with it.
:wink:

[Morden]

The 1D MKII was just put on shelves here in Canada yesterday.

Yeah, right.

I got mine just in time for my weekend visit to the International Space Station. I'll post some photos thererof once they've been cleared by NASA security.

[Ferdinand]

All these 1Ds and 10Ds mark I, I think its time I paint my Digital Rebel Black so I can carry it around without shame :(

Ferdinand

[drisley]

The 1D MKII was just put on shelves here in Canada yesterday.

Yeah, right.

I got mine just in time for my weekend visit to the International Space Station. I'll post some photos thererof once they've been cleared by NASA security.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[CyberDyneSystems]

It is a beauty. But until they get rid of the 1.3x crop factor I won't be having wet dreams about it. I'll stick with my 10D for now. Am I the only one bothered by the lack of field of view (even with the 17-35L) relative to my good old 35mm?

I'd be happy to get some more out from wide angle compared to 10D, and happy to have 1.3X so that I still would not have to buy and carry and pay 4000 USD for 300/2.8.

For me it is very important to have 100% viewfinder coverage, and that it has!

Now I'd like to know about its shutter noise in single shot mode....

I agree on the 1.3X,.. for my type of shooting, I think 1.3X will be perfect!

Yes it will be nice to get more out of my 17-40mm at the wide end,. but I will be very happy with retaining a little "crop factor" for my big lenses and wildlife. With 8 MP what I loose in "crop magnification" I can pic up with the extra resolution and do the cropping myself :)

AND,. better yet,. with a 1D AF system,. I can used a 1.4X with the 500m f/4.5 and retain full autofocus! It might even work with a 2X and some tape :) (1D will autofocus at f/8!!!!!)

At 8.5fps mounted behind a 500mm on a gimble mount tripod head... I will feel like a tailgunner blazing at Messerschmidts when snapping those "in flight" shots :mrgreen:

//can you tell I am excited?

[CyberDyneSystems]

lol,..

Nikon must be $%#*& themselves right now!


"..er well,. we've got this new D70,... anybody?... "

[scotgasch]

ROFLMAO!!!

That's funny!

[Canuck]

My next big question, as cameras get bigger and badder, the lenses we thought were the stuff may not be anymore. Look at the 1DS and the lenses you can get away with on that one vs the 10D. The 1DS is notorious for showing flaws in cheap glass. I wonder what this one will do??? I am concerned about the Sigma 120-300mmF2.8 EX lens I have. You know???

[typer77]

Guys, I am new to the whole DSLR scene. I have had my 10D but haven't fully understand the camera and be able to control the camera.

Now what is the difference between the 1D-II and 1Ds? besides the resolution? Sorry if this is s dumb question but I would like to see why Canon puts out such cameras in the similar category.....

[CyberDyneSystems]

Not at all Typer,.

The 1D was introduced in early 2001 (?? I think?)

It was the best camera made for sprts and journalism for quite some time.

It had 4.5 MP sensor and 8FPS burst rate.

The body of the 1D series is superior to anything else Canon makes (or anybody else arguably) incorporating all the high speed AF etc. of the film version EOS 1V

More recently the 1Ds was introduced. It is the MegaPixel king with 11 Mega pixels.

Now 11 Megapixels is not the best choice for speed,. and indeed the 1Ds can shoot at only 3FPS but otherwise it shares a lot in common with the 1D

But it was NEVER intended to replace the 1D ,. it is used for decidedly different applications (but still a truly PRO camera)

Now the 1D Mkii is the direct replacement for the 1D,.. so the 1Ds still has a place and is still being made (the 1D is now discontinued)

...etc... :)

[Kinger]

Did anyone else notice that the 1d MkII also supports EF-S lenses. Does this mean a new trend within Canon, that all new cameras will support this mount, and can us DRebel owners expect more EF-S lens?

[Tom W]

It seems to me that I had read on the specifications page that the 1D MkII accepts all EF lenses except EF-S. I'll double check.

[Kinger]

you are right, my mistake. I guess it was just hopfull thinking.

[vvizard]

This price is sooooooo way out of my league. I'll just ignore the MK-II talk until I get a millionaire. But anyway, a street-price of $4000+ will not happen for me this decade at least, so please post price-updates when the steal-prices are getting announced ;)

Oh yeah, here's a good deal. Buy one, insurance it for more than it's worth, trade it for my 10D, and report it stolen, collect cash. Voila, 1D MK-II + 10D as backup for you, and 1D MK-II for me, everybody's happy ;) (maybe except you when your insurance-company nails you ;))

[chris.bailey]

For one I am glad that it is not really in competition with the 10D for us mortal folk with a hungry wife, kids and mortgage to support. Its also one big mother and hardly suitable for taking on yer hols.

Is nice though.......

[Morden]

Its also one big mother and hardly suitable for taking on yer hols.

I'm using that reason - too big to lug around - as the primary reason not to preorder one. Of course, I could keep the 10D for such trips......

The price will probably deter me, at least for a short while.

[Andy_T]

you are right, my mistake. I guess it was just hopfull thinking.

So what was your initial plan?

To continue using your 18-55 kit lens when you upgrade to the 1DII?

(Just asking)

Regards,
Andy

[typer77]

I went to a big Camera shop here in Tokyo. They have posters of the Mk-II everywhere. Advertising for 548000 Yen. The 1Ds is about 798000Yen..... The MK-II is coming in April.

[Jim Larson]

you are right, my mistake. I guess it was just hopfull thinking.

So what was your initial plan?

To continue using your 18-55 kit lens when you upgrade to the 1DII?

(Just asking)

Regards,
Andy

The real quesiton is if Canon will support the EF-S line, or will it be a one lens wonder? If Canon fails to release another EF-S lens at PMA, that will be telling.

Releasing expensive telephotos that no one wants (donning flame suit) when the market is clearly yammering for cheap wide angles is strange. I am really expecting a 12-24 EF-S.

I personally would like to see a 24-70/4L, but I am not holding my breath.

[timmyquest]

A burst of 20 RAW 8.2 MP frames at 8.5 FPS.

Also, it apparently attaches ICC profiles to image files. Nice.

I like it! :D

Thats what makes me want it....rack off 20 pics in 2 1/2 seconds...man

[Kinger]

My thinking was on the same line as Jim Larson, I was hoping for more EF-S lenses, so I was thinking if newer models (released since DRebel) supports the EF-S then there should be more EF-S lenses on the way.