P.O.T.N. Anonymous

[Claire]

Hi,
My name is Claire and I'm a P.O.T.N. addict.

I realised it after having a very strange dream involving posting on the forum. My subscription list is waaay too long and threads have to be unsubscribed at a regular basis. When someone new has posted in the subscribed thread, I can't stop myself from checking "who it was".

This just goes to show that the forum is dangerously addictive and for all you out there that are having the same problem, I've opened a thread for us all to ventilate our thoughts around this addiction.

I will unveil the 12 Step Programme for P.O.T.N. Anonymous within a short time. For now, feel free to introduce yourselves. If you find it hard to be open about it, just take a deep breath, we're all friends here. Do feel free to tell us when you first realised that you had become an addict and how it has affect you.

Welcome to P.O.T.N. Anonymous. ;)

[fstop212]

LOL - Sign me up.

[-MasterChief-]

hi, my name is roeddel and i am a POTN addict. my "problem" started when i would wake up at midnight just to check who replied to my posts. and even if i didnt have any replies, i would hang and wait for another hour and read other posts. thats when it all went downhill. since being a POTN addict, i have also become an L-coholic. PLEASE HELP ME! :D

[gjl711]

Hi, I too am a POTN addict. My addiction started when I discovered how to use the tabs "UserCp" and "NewPosts". I now have a window open whether at work or at home and click to get my fix a couple of times an hour. I use to check the headlines first thing in the morning but now it's right to POTN. I have not sunk to the levels of depravity as some and set POTN to my homepage as that would be the equivalent of living is a cardboard box just to feed your habit, but I have moved up the POTN link so that I do not have to scroll through a bunch of links just to get my daily POTN fix and I fear that homepage is next.

[Ronald S. Jr.]

Uh....sorry, wrong room. o_O

[Claire]

Uh....sorry, wrong room. o_O

Now, now Ronald. There's no need to be scared. We're all friends here. :)

[Anthony J Howe]

I'm having side-effects with this addition...
I have bird feathers on my brain, square eyes, backache due to sitting on an office chair instead of a nice comfortable chair, I have the shakes...what I mean is, my fingers are twitching and longing for the computer keyboard.
I have eating disorders because my meal is sitting at the table stone cold, coffee and tea is always drunk stone-cold...please I'm desperate I NEED HELP!

[Stavhp]

Hi, My name is Stavros
I wake up and come on here, go to school and come on here, go home and come on here.
sOmEoNe HeLp Me

[JAZZ D.P.G.]

Hi, my name is Jim and I'm known as Jazz.

I've been a member for a couple of years and really don't post all that often. I rarely post photos for comment and rarely comment on others photos, there are just too many good pictures and I'm learning way too much just being an active lurker.

Really though, I don't post much, but I'm here so much it must be an addict:(

but what a sweet addiction:lol:

I don't plan on changing my habits any time soon. Except maybe to post pictures more often (need to be less critical of myself)

POTN Rules. An addiction that does not add weight:lol:

If I keep POTN (sounds like Poutine, eh?) up all the time, does that mean I'm mainlining:confused:

[runninmann]

Hi,
My name is Claire and I'm a P.O.T.N. addict.

....
I will unveil the 12 Step Programme for P.O.T.N. Anonymous within a short time.... ;)

Uh....sorry, wrong room. o_OI'm sure the first step is admitting that you're an addict.:)

[300Dplus]

Hi, my name is Tom and I am a POTN' holic. It all started about two years ago, I was going thru a low point in my life. I had no inspiration. My pictures were dull. I was lonely, weak and desperate. Going from forum to forum gave no hope. Then I found this bar...err..forum and I started to come back to it more often than not. A little bit more each day. And then, the moment I started having breakfast on my computer desk, I realised I had an addiction... I'm ashamed, please help!

[joegolf68]

I'm no addict, I'm no addict. Now go get me that BHphoto catalog. I want to take a picture of that river, what's it called, De Nial?


On to the next thread, got to read them all! I am not an addict, repeat.............

[Carzee]

Hi, I'm Ross. I thought this was the Jenny Craig room.
[ backs away slowly toward door ]

[EOSAddict]

Hmmmm,

A distinct absence of the 'usual suspects' in here leads me to believe people are not able to face the truth.

[Pete]

I'll stop reading POTN the day I run out of money and can't afford any more lenses/accessories...

[theflyingkiwi]

umm, ok guys and girls. You know one step on the road to recovery is selling your camera gear :) since you wont be needing it I will be happy to buy it from you at a discounted price. $1 per item ;)

PS I am waiting for the 12 steps

[Claire]

PS I am waiting for the 12 steps

Give me a break! I'm not done keeping up with all my subscribed threads! You Book Committee people need to stop posting so I don't have to go back into the threads and read!!! :p

[Lightstream]

I'm having side-effects with this addition...
I have bird feathers on my brain, square eyes, backache due to sitting on an office chair instead of a nice comfortable chair, I have the shakes...what I mean is, my fingers are twitching and longing for the computer keyboard.
I have eating disorders because my meal is sitting at the table stone cold, coffee and tea is always drunk stone-cold...please I'm desperate I NEED HELP!

This is easy to fix. Our esteemed Belmondo recommends a recliner with small computer and wireless keyboard for the pain-in-the-rear (sitting induced, of course, not POTN induced). I will recommend you start eating in front of the computer.... :D

Keyboards are just $9 if you mess up... well, at least mine are. ;)

[ron chappel]

Haha. It's fun reading this thread:D
I used to be the same.I guess i'm fortunate (?) that i don't have as much time to post these days ;)

[gjl711]

I'm no addict, I'm no addict. Now go get me that BHphoto catalog. I want to take a picture of that river, what's it called, De Nial?


On to the next thread, got to read them all! I am not an addict, repeat.............
Boy, that B&H catalog is like crack itself. I still have not paged through them yet. I have even upped the fiber in my diet just to give a bit more opportunity reading time.

[runninmann]

Boy, that B&H catalog is like crack itself. I still have not paged through them yet. I have even upped the fiber in my diet just to give a bit more opportunity reading time.
Being a POTN addict is like being a crack addict -- only more expensive.:lol:

[kevin_c]

Hello I'm also a P.O.T.N. addict but I wish to remain anonymous - You can call me 'Mike'.

I often find myself 'just looking at a couple more threads' before I go to bed, and then find an hour has gone by.
I then wake up and before going to work have to check my emails to see if anyone has replied to my subscribed threads.

Goodbye for now

-- 'Mike' --

[gjl711]

Being a POTN addict is like being a crack addict -- only more expensive.:lol:
Actually, POTN is the cheap part. It's the other stuff, bodies, lenses, bags, tubes, filters, etc. that sucks money like a 3 1/2 horsepower shop vac sucks sawdust. :lol::lol:

BTW, all of you, look for this sign. How many of you have added "POTN" to your spell checker. If you have, your probably addicted. ;)

[Scottes]

I'm not an addict. I once gave up POTN for 3 months.

I can quit any time.

[Scottes]

See what I mean?

[gjl711]

See what I mean?
I see what you mean.

[gjl711]

I'm not an addict. I once gave up POTN for 3 months.

I can quit any time.
Any time at all. ;)

[Claire]

I'm not an addict. I once gave up POTN for 3 months.

I can quit any time.

You'd miss me too much if you left POTN. ;) :p

Three months? Wow. Where you in the hospital with no internet access or were you in some forest living with wolves?

[Scottes]

You'd miss me too much if you left POTN. ;) :p

Three months? Wow. Where you in the hospital with no internet access or were you in some forest living with wolves?
Guess which I'd prefer. :-)

[Permagrin]

so is this a support group or a place where we go to admit decadence and eat chocolates whilst we revel in aforementioned d.?

[wu_wei0]

so is this a support group or a place where we go to admit decadence and eat chocolates whilst we revel in aforementioned d.?
Now see, that's what I'm looking for- a place where we can support each other and enjoy our deviance without guilt. Wonder if I can find my post in the TPBM thread where we were talking about this?

[Claire]

so is this a support group or a place where we go to admit decadence and eat chocolates whilst we revel in aforementioned d.?

Both! ;) We should learn to deal with our addiction the best we can. You know, be honest, admit it, talk about it & help with making things easier.
Like telling each other what type of food should be/shouldn't be eaten by the computer, turn off email notification to not get mail bombardiny your inbox, suggest software for practicing speed typing...

All the stuff to help our addiction. ;)

[JAZZ D.P.G.]

Both! ;) We should learn to deal with our addiction the best we can. You know, be honest, admit it, talk about it & help with making things easier.
Like telling each other what type of food should be/shouldn't be eaten by the computer, turn off email notification to not get mail bombardiny your inbox, suggest software for practicing speed typing...

All the stuff to help our addiction. ;)

In the addiction world, you would be known as an "enabler". Someone who makes it guilt free and easy to do. No "costs" for our addiction.

In this case, I think the proper term would be "sweet heart":D

[MagicallyDelicious]

Hi My Name Is Sarah.

And Im an Addict!

Enough Said!

[PetKal]

I am bored....:rolleyes:
Klara, entertain me.:cool:

[Claire]

In the addiction world, you would be known as an "enabler". Someone who makes it guilt free and easy to do. No "costs" for our addiction.

In this case, I think the proper term would be "sweet heart":D

Aww, thanks. We have to support each other through the addiction. :)

[theflyingkiwi]

Aww, thanks. We have to support each other through the addiction. :)

does that mean I have to say something nice ?

na not going to happen

you are all freeks :lol: :lol:

[Claire]

you are all freeks :lol: :lol:

One of the 12 steps is about forgiveness.

nzl-g3user, I forgive you for that remark.

[Permagrin]

One of the 12 steps is about forgiveness.

nzl-g3user, I forgive you for that remark.

Another of the 12 steps is crushing anyone who makes disparaging remarks! :lol: :lol:

does that mean I have to say something nice ?

na not going to happen

you are all freeks :lol: :lol:

this is for you nzl-g3user darling:lol:
(courtesy of wikipedia)

[theflyingkiwi]

oh that's just nice. :) feel the love around here. I guess one should never make smart remarks about those in recovery.

You know one of the other 12 steps is " Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all."

so when can I expect a new camera as a amends ? ;) :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Permagrin]

oh that's just nice. :) feel the love around here. I guess one should never make smart remarks about those in recovery.

You know one of the other 12 steps is " Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all."

so when can I expect a new camera as a amends ? ;) :lol: :lol: :lol:

(to quote those Guiness Sages that I love so much) "No smart remarks..brilliant!"
Oh, all right, I'm feeling benevolent right now so here ya go!

[theflyingkiwi]

cool, at least I will be able to take photos with that. :) will my L fit on it?

[Permagrin]

cool, at least I will be able to take photos with that. :) will my L fit on it?

Sure. Send me the L and I'll make sure it fits before I send it all to you...

[theflyingkiwi]

your supposed be in recovery, another L isn't going to help. Anyway you already got the lens so it doesn't matter

[Lightstream]

Sure. Send me the L and I'll make sure it fits before I send it all to you...


PG wielding an angle grinder. Now that would be a sight worth photographing. :D

[Permagrin]

PG wielding an angle grinder. Now that would be a sight worth photographing. :D

I'm dangerous with power tools...especially in therapy...

[PetKal]

Sure. Send me the L and I'll make sure it fits before I send it all to you...

Good rebuttal PGgrin...you do seem to have your moments of piercing lucid......not unlike Conduit (of black light).
Thank you for entertaining me....you do a much better job of it than Klara.;)

[Permagrin]

Good rebuttal PGgrin...you do seem to have your moments of piercing lucid......not unlike Conduit (of black light).
Thank you for entertaining me....you do a much better job of it than Klara.;)

You take that back :p Lucidity does not become me....:lol: :lol:

Claire's adorable so I have to be mystifyingly atypical to make up for it...

[theflyingkiwi]

You take that back :p Lucidity does not become me....:lol: :lol:

Claire's adorable so I have to be mystifyingly atypical to make up for it...

in that case then I take back my comment, you are all mad as a hatter

[Kevin]

HI, you can call me "always late to dinner", my wife does. I am not addicted to POTN. I log-off as soon as my head hits my keyboard.

[pagefile]

Hi my name is, {cough cough} Jim, yeah thats it Jim

I dont feel like I am an addict as of yet. However I do feel that I am going in that direction. I like to watch, I do reply and there has been times I post new. I like watching the most I think. I say to myself "WOW how did they do that" or "is that something I can learn to do". This is why I feel as though i am going in the direction of becoming a P.O.T.N addict.

What I fear the most is this. I will learn from this and its going to change me in ways I never felt possible.

[Claire]

I dont feel like I am an addict as of yet. However I do feel that I am going in that direction. I like to watch, I do reply and there has been times I post new. I like watching the most I think. I say to myself "WOW how did they do that" or "is that something I can learn to do".

Classic voyeurism symtoms. Don't feel shy, join in now & then, we're all nice here.:) Before you know it you'll be broke like the rest of us.:D

[Permagrin]

Hi my name is, {cough cough} Jim, yeah thats it Jim

I dont feel like I am an addict as of yet. However I do feel that I am going in that direction. I like to watch, I do reply and there has been times I post new. I like watching the most I think. I say to myself "WOW how did they do that" or "is that something I can learn to do". This is why I feel as though i am going in the direction of becoming a P.O.T.N addict.

What I fear the most is this. I will learn from this and its going to change me in ways I never felt possible.

Okay Pledge...here's pretty much the rule of thumb for POTN...

"I will never learn from anything....I will often buy everything...and I will take too many duck shots.."
;)
"AND, I will have a great time doing it!"

[theflyingkiwi]

"AND, I will have a great time doing it!"

And that should be shouted from the roof tops, for that is the key to it all :)

[PetKal]

Okay Pledge...here's pretty much the rule of thumb for POTN...

"I will never learn from anything....I will often buy everything...and I will take too many duck shots.."
;)
"AND, I will have a great time doing it!"

Oh no.....you are hitting bellow the belt now......however, you might hurt your tender knuckles while trying.... they called me ferrotestosterone in the army for a reason. :evil: Mwuahahahahaah.

[Lightstream]

"Remember, too, that obsessing about lenses just isn't necessary. They all take great pictures. But if it's fun for you, then do it! Messing around with cameras and lenses is safe, pleasant, legal, and harms no one. All things considered, it doesn't rank very high on the scale of silly vices."
— Mike Johnston (Luminous Landscape)


http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-02-11-24.shtml


Frame this and hang this in our POTN Anonymous meeting room :D

[Permagrin]

Oh no.....you are hitting bellow the belt now......however, you might hurt your tender knuckles while trying.... they called me ferrotestosterone in the army for a reason. :evil: Mwuahahahahaah.

Nowww now...I never mentioned ferrets....(and please do not tell me the reason) :lol:

[Permagrin]

BESIDES! I said we had a great time in the process...I have my own duck shots, I just rarely share them... ;)

[puddlepirate44]

Oh no.....you are hitting bellow the belt now......however, you might hurt your tender knuckles while trying.... they called me ferrotestosterone in the army for a reason. :evil: Mwuahahahahaah.

because they get rusty?:eek:

[PetKal]

because they get rusty?:eek:

Well, partly...however, that's why we had steel wool.
The major reason was that I made clunk&clung sounds whenever I ran. Like the camp chappel bell.

[Permagrin]

Well, partly...however, that's why we had steel wool.
The major reason was that I made clunk&clung sounds whenever I ran. Like the camp chappel bell.

man, they really do need to change your title from Jr. member now...

[mdm]

I don't have a problem. I can quit it anytime.

[theflyingkiwi]

I don't have a problem. I can quit it anytime.

Famous last words :)

[PetKal]

I don't have a problem.
Oh you do, son, you do...a major one :(
(<Bewildered and saddened, Petkal studies the Madman's avatar.>)

[ejwebb]

Oh you do, son, you do...a major one :(
(<Bewildered and saddened, Petkal studies the Madman's avatar.>)

LOL!! Nice catch - nothing of not observant are you? :lol: :lol:

Oops, I thought you were referring to the kiwi's problem pine tree!! :oops:

[puddlepirate44]

Well, partly...however, that's why we had steel wool.
The major reason was that I made clunk&clung sounds whenever I ran. Like the camp chappel bell.

:lol:

[Lightstream]

Famous last words :)

No... famous last words are...

"I hope the kit lens is good, I intend to keep this for a year or so"

:D

Year passes...

24-105 and 17-40 arrive before it ends.... red ring included......

[Claire]

I had my kit lens for a year before I got the tele & 50mm. :)

[theflyingkiwi]

the kit lens will never fit on my camera :)

[Lightstream]

the kit lens will never fit on my camera :)


Never say never! :D *breaks out hacksaw*

(I haven't done the kit lens but I did two others.. 17-85 and 60 macro)

[theflyingkiwi]

Never say never! :D *breaks out hacksaw*

(I haven't done the kit lens but I did two others.. 17-85 and 60 macro)

mental note to oneself. Keep camera equipment away from those sick people :)

[Permagrin]

mental note to oneself. Keep camera equipment away from those sick people :)

I notice you are a frequent flyer here Mark...I think you ARE one of "those" people to whom you keep referring.

[Lightstream]

mental note to oneself. Keep camera equipment away from those sick people :)

*rubs hands and cackles with glee* :mrgreen:

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=802&g2_serialNumber=1

(for those who must know: We retain FULL 45-point area AF, fully operational image stabilizer and I tested as low as 1/5 stable at 17mm...focusing is fast and accurate, and vignetting is very black. ;) )

[theflyingkiwi]

hahaha you good with PS I see ;) . but you know what would be really impressive and that is seeing the lens on a nikon :) now that evil. :evil:

[Lightstream]

hahaha you good with PS I see ;) . but you know what would be really impressive and that is seeing the lens on a nikon :) now that evil. :evil:

Oh dear.... as if ripping out the rear baffle from my 17-85 was not cruel enough to it, now you want to put it on a Noink.... aaaah!!! *hides lens* ;)

My Photoshop skills suck actually, so it was easier to get the lens to physically mount on the 1D.. ;)

[Permagrin]

Oh dear.... as if ripping out the rear baffle from my 17-85 was not cruel enough to it, now you want to put it on a Noink.... aaaah!!! *hides lens* ;)

My Photoshop skills suck actually, so it was easier to get the lens to physically mount on the 1D.. ;)

I've been meaning to ask you...does it still work properly (good IQ and all?)

[Lightstream]

Note: If you try this you are on your own and fully responsible for any consequences, good or bad..


Quite reasonable. I recommend partial or spot meter with this one, since evaluative/CW will take into account the corners.

Full AF (including awesome AF :D), very fast USM, fully operational stabilizer. BTW, the 17-85 even registers its lens data properly in the EXIF. There is sufficient mirror clearance on a 1D to safely operate this combo even at 17mm where the rear element sticks out the most.

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=790&g2_serialNumber=1

Please "bring your own crop" now that the camera will not do it though :D Note that because you MUST crop the image (unless you particularly love vignetting), you essentially are getting a 28-135mm FOV, which is the same as 1.6X crop factor. You get 120% viewfinder coverage (no kidding), and almost-like-rangefinder "out of the lens" image coverage to some extent.

Assuming you were crazy enough, you could create your own Photoshop actions or ImageMagick scripts to batch crop, and 'score' the 1D focusing screen with an X-acto knife (if you stuff up, it's only $30? that's the 1D advantage.. but I'm not brave enough to try) to provide framelines in your viewfinder.

I can almost hear nzgl3-user screaming "NUTS, THESE PEOPLE ARE NUTS!" :D Yes, I am.....it would definitely take nuts (both kinds) to try something like this :D

What would be awesome if someone was to do this conversion to a 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM, that way 1D shooters would have 2.8 AND IS, with 8.5fps, 45-point AreaAF and then some.

[theflyingkiwi]

NUTS, ya more than nuts, crazy I tell ya just insane and crazy. :)

never thought it was possible, but there it is :)

[Lightstream]

You need to remove the rear baffle:

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=796&g2_serialNumber=1

Which is not that hard.. at least on my lens, the baffle pops in and out with gentle finger pressure. Once removed, the lens becomes effectively an EF mount, although the rear element WILL collide with a full frame mirror - one reason you don't see me using it on my 5D :D