Do Color Profiles Have Any Meaning in PS Elements?

[hammerdown]

After reading a lot about color profiles, I am stumped as to where in PS Elements a color space is actually assigned.

So far I have:
1. Shot everything in RAW Adobe RGB
2. Used the Gamma calibration tool to load calibrated profile at startup
3. Used FVU to save the RAW to 8 bit 360 dpi Tiff (FVU shows image RAW & Tiff is Adobe RGB)
4. Set PS Elements to Edit > Color Settings > Full Color Management Optimized for Print
5. Edit the Tiff and save with ICC Profile Adobe1998 checked (File Info of Tiff says EXIF Color Space Uncalibrated?)

Is that it? In PS Elements I don't see anything like Image > Mode > Assign Profile. Nor do I see View > Proof Setup > Custom to load the appropriate printer profile.

I am using this workflow example for reference, but I suspect Elements is simply lacking these features: http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/profiles.htm
Hammer

[Jesper]

Everything you say is correct.... :) you've set it up correctly, and unfortunately PS Elements does not contain the Convert / Assign Profile features.

However, when you choose File / Print Preview..., you can choose the ICC profile for the printer. Make sure any colour corrections are switched off in the printer driver, or they will interfere with the colour management done by PS Elements.

[scottbergerphoto]

Color profiles absoloutely do work in PSE2. In PSE2 you have to save the file with the Adobe RGB (1998) profile attached. There is a box to check off when you select File>Save As.Then in Print Preview if you check the "More Options" box you will see source identified as AdobeRGB (1998). In output you select the ICC profile for the paper and printer you use. In your printer select "No Color Adjustment" or something similiar. It works fine. I shoot Raw, Adobe RGB (1998)I convert in BreezeBrowser to 8bitt Tiff Adobe RGB(1998), edit in PSE2, and print as above. My monitor is calibrated with SpyderPro/Optical. I use Epson ICC printer profiles. My prints look exactly like the monitor less the extra lumionance.
That being said, there is some interesting stuff in www.luminous-landscape.com, that if you happen to be using an Epson 2200, the printers built in ICC profiles(printer driver), do a somewhat better job then the ICC profiles entered in PS and PSE2.
Scott

[hammerdown]

Ok, looks like I have a good grasp of the concept then. Thanks for the tip about Print Preview > Show More Options > Color Management, that does verify that it's saved in Adobe RGB.

So next question... Let's say I want to take these pics to Costco and get some prints done. They have downloadable ICC Profiles that you are supposed to be able to load onto your PC, then you can do editing and save the files with their profile.

Can you do this in PSE2?

Hammer

[scottbergerphoto]

Ok, looks like I have a good grasp of the concept then. Thanks for the tip about Print Preview > Show More Options > Color Management, that does verify that it's saved in Adobe RGB.

So next question... Let's say I want to take these pics to Costco and get some prints done. They have downloadable ICC Profiles that you are supposed to be able to load onto your PC, then you can do editing and save the files with their profile.

Can you do this in PSE2?

Hammer
Once your picture is in PSE2, I don't think you can add a profile that didn't come with the picture. I don't think there are commands to assign or convert to another profile. However, if you use BreezeBrowser or another raw converter, you can add the ICC profile to your Color folder, and tell breezebrowser in the Raw coversion preferences to assign that profile when it converts it to tiff.
Scott