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Cadenza
4th of February 2004 (Wed), 18:49
Moving on to a DSLR means that
I'll have to give up on the twist and
flip LCD screen on my G3. :-(
Those of you who made the transition,
do you miss it? I've used film SLRs, I
suppose I'll survive, but why would a
twisty screen be considered so
"uncool" and amateurish in an SLR?
It's a great tool for composition.
Best, Cadenza
dn7elson
4th of February 2004 (Wed), 18:58
Moving on to a DSLR means that
I'll have to give up on the twist and
flip LCD screen on my G3. :-(
Those of you who made the transition,
do you miss it? I've used film SLRs, I
suppose I'll survive, but why would a
twisty screen be considered so
"uncool" and amateurish in an SLR?
It's a great tool for composition.
I found the flip screen useful on my G2 for overhead shots, such as shooting over a crowd. I could point the camera and verify the shot with the LCD before shooting. Also used it for macro shots for convenience.
The reason you can't have it on the SLR is the flipup mirror that blocks the sensor before you trip the shutter. The LCD would be pretty dark with the mirror sitting in front of it. On an SLR where you can lock the mirror in the up position, you might be able to have the image sent to the LCD if the camera were designed to do so.
Morden
4th of February 2004 (Wed), 18:59
Moving on to a DSLR means that
I'll have to give up on the twist and
flip LCD screen on my G3. :-(
Those of you who made the transition,
do you miss it?
I relate. :)
After using my G2 for a year or so (I still have it by the way) I bought a D60. I didn't just miss shooting with the twist and flip screen - I missed shooting with the screen altogether.
Having said that, the numerous substantial benefits that I gained by moving up to my first DSLR made the lack of "preview shooting" a tiny price to pay.
I now largely use a 10D and am more than a little tempted to pre-order a 1D mk II. :D
I doubt that you will regret a move to a DSLR (dare I say a "proper" camera? :roll: )
GenEOS
4th of February 2004 (Wed), 19:00
I have to admit, I do miss that feature. You probably won't see it on digital SLR's unless the mechanics of SLRs change.
I have contemplated getting a G5 for the simplicity of it. I don't always want to carry all my gear with me. With the G series cameras and that flip screen, you can position that camera just about anywhere and get great pictures.
I would not sell your G. Keep it as a general shoot camera...
dtrayers
4th of February 2004 (Wed), 19:01
I do miss the swivel LCD at times, but I don't miss the washout in bright daylight.
Whaler
4th of February 2004 (Wed), 21:34
Rarely do I miss the twist out. You're gonna love the Drebel.
J.A.F. Doorhof
4th of February 2004 (Wed), 21:56
In the beginning I missed it very very much, especially for strange angles and macro's but at the moment (after a little over 6 months) I don't care anymore, just shoot a few more (it's digital) and most of the time I have the desired effect ;D.
Greetings,
Frank
theoldmoose
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 09:52
I do miss the swivel LCD at times, but I don't miss the washout in bright daylight.
I agree. If the 'twisty' digicam folks weren't so cheap, you'd get a viewable LCD display that didn't wash out in bright sunlight. Sharp and others make such displays.
Otherwise, I found myself spending too much time using the optical viewfinder, which on a 'rangefinder' type camera, suffers from parallax errors, causing you to misframe shots.
Andy_T
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 10:20
... Just keep your G3 for that 'twisty' shots!
Regards,
Andy
Jesper
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 12:38
The twisting screen was very useful on my G3, which I sold before I got my 10D....
On the 10D, you cannot use the LCD at all for composition. You must use the viewfinder. Because it is an SLR, the mirror will be blocking the sensor before you make the photo. You can use the LCD only for reviewing your photos.
Cadwell
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 13:53
Only time I ever "twisted" was shooting the first show of the pole dancers at the Autosport Show a few years back... For the second show I got a spot down the front and didn't have to ;)
Can't say I'll miss it (the twisting that is).
pradeep1
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 16:22
Moving on to a DSLR means that
I'll have to give up on the twist and
flip LCD screen on my G3. :-(
Those of you who made the transition,
do you miss it? I've used film SLRs, I
suppose I'll survive, but why would a
twisty screen be considered so
"uncool" and amateurish in an SLR?
It's a great tool for composition.
I found the flip screen useful on my G2 for overhead shots, such as shooting over a crowd. I could point the camera and verify the shot with the LCD before shooting. Also used it for macro shots for convenience.
The reason you can't have it on the SLR is the flipup mirror that blocks the sensor before you trip the shutter. The LCD would be pretty dark with the mirror sitting in front of it. On an SLR where you can lock the mirror in the up position, you might be able to have the image sent to the LCD if the camera were designed to do so.
I am waiting for a dSLR to have this feature. It would be very useful. Enable mirror lockup and use your swivel LCD to compose. I wonder why camera makers haven't put this in yet? I've used the swivel LCD to mount my camera (G3) on minipods on cathederal floors and take wide angle shots facing up. I could not do that with an SLR, since I could not see what's going on inside the viewfinder. I hope this is a feature we see in later stage dSLRs.
CyberDyneSystems
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 22:21
I had a "twisty" as my first Digital,. (no not the "N" word,. it was an Agfa! :P )
But I miss just being able to use the screen to frame a shot even more..
Although my previous Digital was EVF style which behave like an SLR as far as the veiwfinder is concerend.. it did still have the LCD when appropriate,. I really like it for macros etc...
The E-10 was almost the best of both worlds. too bad it didn't have intercahngeable lenses.
Jesper
6th of February 2004 (Fri), 02:30
I am waiting for a dSLR to have this feature. It would be very useful. Enable mirror lockup and use your swivel LCD to compose. I wonder why camera makers haven't put this in yet?
I don't know exactly why, but I've heard that the sensors etc. used in DSLRs cannot be used like this, to feed an image continuously to the LCD. If you really want that, get an SLR-like camera like the Sony F828. I think Olympus also has SLR-like digital cameras that have a pellicle mirror (http://photonotes.org/cgi-bin/search.pl?input=pellicle&which=d) that might be able to use the LCD for composition, but I'm not sure about that.
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