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GenEOS
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 07:22
Go ahead, admit it. I do. :wink:

If you don't know the definition, promise you will go do a google search first ( http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=what+is+chimping%3F ) and then come back and comment.

:shock:

dtrayers
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 07:32
Oooh! Oooh! Oooh!

Not anymore!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.sportsshooter.com/special_feature/chimping/

http://www.chimping.com/chimping.jpg

EXA1a
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 07:38
No chimping anymore. I put black tape over the LCD...

;-) Jens

timmyquest
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 07:40
lol, thats a great video...

and i envy their equipment :-\

pglamb
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 08:46
I'm not chimping! I'm checking my histograph for correct exposure!! :D

Whaler
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 09:16
Just call me Cheetah. Ungawa!

ijohnson
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 09:24
I didn't even realize that was bad. I am going to have to go tear my LCD off. I am addicted to feeback.

Do they have rehab centers for liquid crystal addicts.

Belmondo
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 09:51
The term was no doubt coined by film photographers. Does anyone really doubt that they would verify their work while the film was still in the camera if they could?

I chimp, but no one's ever seen me do it because I'm always alone when shooting photos. On second thought, if it means i'm 'uncool,' maybe I'll just deny it altogether.

Okay. I don't 'chimp.' (E.P. Ripley)

fwhitesides
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 09:54
Seems like the people in the video can't decide what chimping is. Is it just looking at your shot or is it showing other people?

I've never chimped in an action situation, if chimping means showing others. I chimp constantly when it's just me and my friends at a party or something. I usually say something like "Ooh! Ooh! Check this out. I'm the man."

I would never chimp in the presence of strangers.

However, I nearly always look at each shot as it comes up on the LCD. I'm not checking for composition, but rather the histogram. To have that kind of tool and not use it is just stupid. Unless, of course, you are so good that you never (or almost never) miss an exposure. I've learned a ton about proper exposure from "chimping" the histogram of each shot. I think it's a great learning tool and fine way to maintain quality control on location.

However, reviewing on location should be used with caution as it could cause you to miss a golden shot.

Belmondo
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 10:22
However, reviewing on location should be used with caution as it could cause you to miss a golden shot.


......AND it might cause people to point their fingers and make derisive comments about you. (behaviors usually demonstrated by people who feel threatened, but don't know why.)

RichardtheSane
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 10:47
If it is a single shot, that I have just spend 10 minutes or more setting the camera up so it is 'just right' then I will certainly look at the review image (I get about 4 seconds, that is plenty :) ) - is that chimping?

EoSD30fReAk
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 11:51
I only chimp (without noises) if i'm not certain about my pic.

sds4kst8
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 12:28
If chimping is looking at the LCD, seeing a cool shot and showing the person next to you, then no, I can honestly say I don't chimp.

If chimping is using the LCD as a tool to help get the shots you want, sure, I chimp. And I'm proud of it! What's the big deal?!? Ha!

Belmondo, you're right...if we could have seen pics on film before developing, we'd have all been chimping with film, too!

Seriously, if I'm shooting a basketball game or some other sport, I just turn the LCD review feature off (once I've checked out a few of the initial shots to make sure I've got WB, shutter speed, etc. set correctly). Personally, I just want to shoot and either look at the pics during halftime or when I get home and look at them via the computer.

I have found that it's rather humorous, however, to watch others. I was shooting a rodeo a few weeks ago when I noticed a guy across the arena shooting, too. What I found funny was that after EVERY pic he not only would look at the LCD, but he would hold up the camera and show everyone around him the pic. I was cracking up just watching him! Hard to tell for sure, but it looked like people around him were getting annoyed!

I'm still trying to figure out how the term "chimping" came to be? And what does it really mean? Just looking at the LCD or showing everyone around you?

Jesper
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 12:34
I'm still trying to figure out how the term "chimping" came to be? And what does it really mean? Just looking at the LCD or showing everyone around you?

Checking My Pictures... it means checking your photo on the LCD immediately after taking it, to see if the composition, exposure etc. are OK.

People who still use cameras with film want to convince you that it's bad, because getting the exposure right isn't an art anymore with digital cameras. In reality they're just jealous and they don't want to admit that it's so much more convenient that you can check the image right after taking it... :roll:

And YES, I chimp all the time! :wink:

TeraGram93013
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 12:37
My machine is too busy I can't review the link right now.

But, from reading the thread I have a clue & a half as to what chimping is.

I guess I'm guilty.

My "big project" right now (and for the next 18 months or so) is "Official Photographer of My Daughter's Co-Op Preschool".

(Quick Definition of Co-Op Preschool: Instead of paying $500/month for HRH to attend 3x per week, 3 hours a day, I pay $70/month but I have to w*rk at the school 1x per week PLUS participate heavily in a "committee", in my case Photography/Videography.)

Some of the kids are extremely reluctant to be photographed. The only way I can get them to cooperate is to promise them a review of the pictures I shoot so they may ensure I'm not making fools of them (I guess). It works out wonderfully.

spock84
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 13:04
I don't run around going "Ooh ooh, look at this!", but that's probably because I don't have any friends and I don't want to bother strangers. :wink: I tend to look at shots for quite some time after taking them, but I don't see how that should be a problem. It just enables me to take better pictures, and honestly I think people who are against chimping feel a bit intimidated by it since getting better shots (or at least learning how to) is easier when chimping. It's like a demystification of photography in an almost religious sense, and these people just won't let their religion go.

gsmx2
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 13:11
What ever the final degree and definition of chimping is:

Yep---guess I do that, and that, and that and....

gsm x2

Cadwell
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 13:50
:shock: Oh well, if it's confessions time :oops:

"forgive me Father, for I have chimped"....

:wink:

IndyJeff
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 13:55
Let me begin by saying that I do check on some shots, mainly if I have doubts if I got the whole car in the frame or not. Sometimes it is a great tool to use, the LCD that is. If you got a shot and your not sure if you cut off the nose of the car or the back wing, why not take a look. It is a useful tool and you should use it.
As far as showing others, well if they ask I will. At last years Indy 500 there was a new guy who would check his shot, each and every time. Then he began coming down to my spot and showing me and asking my opinion. Didn't bother me too much on practice days but on race day he started right off the bat showing me what a great shot he had. Finally I told him to leave me alone, he was going to cause us both to miss an incident if it happened. He kind of huffed and walked back to his spot. Then after the Fisher crash, I told him I would look at his stuff on a yellow light but not while the green light was on. Since he missed the whole incident because he was checking his camera he understood.

IMHO if your so good that you never have to check the LCD, well I hope someday I may be as good as you are but, don't look down on others who do check.

CyberDyneSystems
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 14:02
I had no idea it had negative conotations.. :)

However,. I turned off the reveiw feature on my 10D about a month after I got it... :wink:

IF,. and I mean IF I need to reveiw an image,. I have problem with hitting the button,. and considering I prpbably only review one out of every 250 shots or so,. there is certianly no reason to leave the LCD on.

LiquidMantis
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 15:05
One thing no one mentioned is that it's sports photographers in the video. I can see why it's pointless and subject to in ribbing, if you got the shot, you got the shot. There's no reason to review because the moment is passed, you're better off worrying about the next opportunity. In landscape/architecture/studio/etc. photography I don't think that "chimping" is anything to be disparaged at all, it's using the tools of your medium to the fullest.

That's just my novice take on it anyway.

GenEOS
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 15:54
Guys, this chimping business is all in fun... don't take it too seriously.
It is a group of photogs making light hearted fun at ourselves. :wink:
No negatives. I thought it was funny, because I can make monkee noises with the best of 'em...... :wink:

Tom W
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 15:57
Hah! I got all y'all beat - with the little camera, I can shoot and chimp simultaneously:

http://home.comcast.net/~trwilk3/Images/NotSolidStance.jpg

pglamb
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 16:00
Chimping is looking at the LCD and going "Hey! (proding whoever the poor sucker is next to you) Ooo oo! Look at this! Ooo ooo OOO!

It's not seriously looking at the LCD while repeating in your head "expose to the right, expose to the right . . ."

:D :lol:

Tom W
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 16:01
LCD = Latent Chimping Display :D

Ferdinand
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 16:06
The person who came up with that word needs to be unmade, unborn, shot, ... whatever. Because of him millions of people like you and me is going to waste our time discussing, argueing, fighting and get all work up over the subject of chimping instead of spending time learning photography and taking great shots :evil: DOWN WITH THE CHIMPING MAKER I SAY!

By the way what does "monkeying" mean in photography term? :P

Regards,
Ferdinand

Tom W
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 16:13
By the way what does "monkeying" mean in photography term? :P

Regards,
Ferdinand

"Monkeying" is making aperture adjustments of smaller than 1/3 stop - constantly. :D

iwatkins
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 16:14
LOL, what a great thread.

If chimping is checking the shot/histo then I am guilty. Especially so for sunsets or other complex lighting where getting the expsoure right is critical. I can take the shot, see it on screen, check the histo and press the delete button before it writes to the card (sort of). Same for motorsport, but mainly more for framing/composition rather than exposure.

If chimping is then showing the image to anyone who will look, then no, I'm quite private about my photography and I'm even reluctant to show the missus as soon as I've taken a shot.

I certainly wouldn't show my efforts to strangers on the piddly little LCD screen. They can wait until they are printed and blown up to A3 and are displayed in a gallery (one day).

Cheers

Ian

GenEOS
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 16:45
The person who came up with that word needs to be unmade, unborn, shot, ... whatever. Because of him millions of people like you and me is going to waste our time discussing, argueing, fighting and get all work up over the subject of chimping instead of spending time learning photography and taking great shots :evil:Regards,
Ferdinand


I believe the term was coined by a pro sports journalist. The origin of exactly who it was I believe is being argued at this time. But, non the less, I think it is funny. I would not give him/her any crud about it. If we can't laugh at ourselves, who can we laugh at?

You can chimp to yourself, that's cool. Chimping to others can be considered rude, unless you are amoung your friends. I have shot next to a few rude chimpers.

But, after an exceptional play, or key block, etc.etc. it is common for those shooting digital to look at one another and say "did you get that?", which is in fact chimping.....

Laugh people, this is funny.
:P :P :P :P :P :P

Ferdinand
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 16:52
By the way what does "monkeying" mean in photography term? :P

Regards,
Ferdinand

"Monkeying" is making aperture adjustments of smaller than 1/3 stop - constantly. :D

LOL nice one Tom :) Now what about "Snailing"?

wolverine
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 16:55
Thanks for the "Chimping" link! I thought it was @$&@ing hilarious!!! And bye the way, your damn straight I chimp! That's why I bought the camera!!!

Tom W
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 16:59
LOL nice one Tom :) Now what about "Snailing"?

Snailing refers to the older-style push-pull zoom lenses. In particular, snailing was the act of moving the zoom in and out in very small, almost indescernable increments. :D

or it could be something else....

PacAce
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 18:10
I am too dignified to "chimp". 8)

:mrgreen:

However, I am constantly "bechimped" by my wife or daughter about the pictures I do take. After I get done taking a picture of them or something of interest to them they'll come over and ask, "Did you get it? How is it? Ooh, ooh! Let me see!" They'll then yank the camera out of my hands with the camera still strapped around my neck and start to preview the pictures. :lol:

IanD
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 18:25
Hah! I got all y'all beat - with the little camera, I can shoot and chimp simultaneously:

http://home.comcast.net/~trwilk3/Images/NotSolidStance.jpg
Hey Tom!
Take the tee shirt back for a refund. They put the logo on backwards :lol: :lol:
Ian

IanD
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 18:30
I do not "chimp" nor do I "monkey". However, I have been know to do an ocassional "Gitzo" after spending 2 hours sitting on the damn small folding chair that I take with me when trying to shoot deer. It is amazing the charlie horse you can pull after sitting all cramped up for a while :lol:

Tom W
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 18:48
I do not "chimp" nor do I "monkey". However, I have been know to do an ocassional "Gitzo" after spending 2 hours sitting on the damn small folding chair that I take with me when trying to shoot deer. It is amazing the charlie horse you can pull after sitting all cramped up for a while :lol:

'Round these parts, that little chair is called a "tree stand". And shooting deer takes on a whole new delicious meaning. ;)

Tom W
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 18:49
Hey Tom!
Take the tee shirt back for a refund. They put the logo on backwards :lol: :lol:
Ian

I'll just wear a mirror...

IanD
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 18:53
I do not "chimp" nor do I "monkey". However, I have been know to do an ocassional "Gitzo" after spending 2 hours sitting on the damn small folding chair that I take with me when trying to shoot deer. It is amazing the charlie horse you can pull after sitting all cramped up for a while :lol:

'Round these parts, that little chair is called a "tree stand". And shooting deer takes on a whole new delicious meaning. ;)
Now I know why all those guys dressed in Blaze Orange were hollering at me. Thought it was a meeting of "The Brotherhood of The Great Pumpkin" Kept on looking for Linus :lol:

MrEWorm
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 18:58
One day last summer, I was riding my Harley past a chopper shop. They had some 18-20 year old girls in bikinis doing a "Bike Wash". One of them pulled off her top while draped over my scooter. You bet I took a few pics and chimped the hell out of them with my friends later that day.

I didn't want Mrs Worm finding them though.

Tom W
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 19:00
'Round these parts, that little chair is called a "tree stand". And shooting deer takes on a whole new delicious meaning. ;)
Now I know why all those guys dressed in Blaze Orange were hollering at me. Thought it was a meeting of "The Brotherhood of The Great Pumpkin" Kept on looking for Linus :lol:[/quote]

If you saw the gang in orange, then its a good thing that neither you nor Gitzo bear antlers. Imagine Gitzo's head mounted above somebody's fireplace. :D

As a side note, those men in orange were probably jealous of your long lenses - after all, they generally don't carry anything larger than a 12 gauge - something on the order of F/50. :D

Canuck
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 20:20
Is it chimping if people approach you and want to see the pics you have taken? Those of us with monster lenses may have bben asked to see the pics. I have on several occasions. Something about that Sigma lens on the 10D is a magnet...still can't figure it out.

Ferdinand
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 22:22
After Bob Dylan, Tom is one of the greatest genius of all times. <bows deeply>

By the way, if you are in San Jose, this Sunday, free Junior Girls Volleyball Tourney at Downtown San Jose. Gonna go with my DRebel and see if I can get some good shot.

Regards,
Ferdinand

fwhitesides
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 23:03
No negatives.
I think that is the source of the **** talking.

Get it? Digital = No Negatives. Har har.

rick barclay
5th of February 2004 (Thu), 23:08
One day last summer, I was riding my Harley past a chopper shop. They had some 18-20 year old girls in bikinis doing a "Bike Wash". One of them pulled off her top while draped over my scooter. You bet I took a few pics and chimped the hell out of them with my friends later that day.

I didn't want Mrs Worm finding them though.


Just goes to show there are exceptions to every rule.

J.A.F. Doorhof
6th of February 2004 (Fri), 00:21
:D
I chimp but I'm more a stealth chimper, however I love it when people ask me let me see.....

Hilarious.

Greetings,
Frank

ruby
6th of February 2004 (Fri), 12:53
I did a photoshoot where we shot film and digital. We painter our black model black and she was not too happy... In all the film shots she looked annoyed and unhappy. After my first couple of shots I chimped. She looked so worried I showed her some shots and she could not belive how cool they looked. After that she was relaxed and we got great shots from her. So see, monkey it up! It can actually help sometimes. Also I do a lot of digital work so I need to know if something is goint to match up with a previous shot.

ruby

rodbunn
11th of March 2004 (Thu), 11:38
I didn't realize it but I do chimp . . . somebody caught me yesterday.

http://www.xposeu.com/k/as28.JPG

Rod

Bruce Hamilton
11th of March 2004 (Thu), 16:28
I preview, I do not chimp... :wink: