The NUMBERS GAME Will you play??

[tealblue]

Now that canon, sony,nikon and some others have the non-dslr up to 8mp.Will you play?? I have no problem getting great 11x17,8x10 from my G2 and A80. I just dont see the need for more mp range. Iam not talking about faster or better focus, we all would like more of that. Are any of you thing about the new canon pro? Do you need it or want it? I dont need it but sure WANT it. Now it sounds like they have me playing the Numbers Game LOL. Tealblue

[roanjohn]

I think for a first time buyer, the number game would be appealing. But for old timers like us 8) , we pretty much are satisfied with 4 - 6 mpx.

I guess for a true upgrade, you are better off jumping to the 6 mpx D Rebel.........

Ro1

[tealblue]

Yes you make a very good point. I think that jump would be the next move up.Tealblue

[KRDV]

Well, I will admit that it has me interested. First, the 7x optical has a bit of appeal, especially with the cropping possibilities from 8mp. The zoom is an improvement I think. I think that a segment of buyers (maybe myself included) might prefer the Pro1 over the Rebel b/c of the zoom range 28-200 with one lens and the corresponding ease of carry. I definitely want one, don't think I need one but it is tempting. If I knew for sure that I could use and get great results from my TCON17 with the Pro1 then it becomes more tempting. If not, then I am perfectly content with my G3.

By the way, I am very happy with the results from my G3 so the 8mp are not the biggest factor of the temptation.

[Deckyon]

I will say this. If (and when) I upgrade cameras it will not be to another fixed lens. My next camera will either be a Canon 10D or its equiv if discontinued. So the new 8mp fixed lens cameras hold no interest for me.

[tealblue]

To Brad: Why the move to a DSLR? Iam just asking my self the same thing and wonder what your reason might be? Tealblue

[Deckyon]

There are just some things the G3 cannot do. I am planning on moving into doing photography as semi-pro and will need some of the different lenses that cannot work with the G3. I will always keep my G3, as it is hard to beat in a pinch. I just need some large scale telephoto and faster focussing/shorter lag times that the EOS brings to the table.

The other part is perception of the customer. They see the G3 and think hobby, they see an SLR with a large lens, they "feel" better about paying for a photo. This comes from my own experiences and from many people I have talked to around here.

Don't get me wrong. I have some spectacular photos taken with my G3, and I have even sold some of them. I have a whole moon series on display for sale at a local store.

These are my reasons, and may not make sense to anyone else. They make sense to me, at least.

[mookiemeister]

I'm still trying to figure out if I need to use all the resolution on my 4MP G3. I just don't see much use for 8MP at all. Other than maybe digital zooming and cropping.

[Duke107]

Well I for one will not be buying a Drebel if this cam can produce as good or better than my G2 (noise from a 8mp ccd). I was thinking of a 10D but I have to admit I really am not interested in multiple lenses and luggage. I want the best P&S camera for versatility, but thats just how I use a cam. Pro 1 Baby!!!!

[FlyingPete]

I tend to agree with Deckyon's comments about a presenting professional image to a customer. I also own an EOS30 (Elan 7E un US speak) with a BP10, good glass etc as well as my G3. I often cart this around, even if I know I will only use the G3. The G3 simply looks like a snapshot camera at first glance, and when you are being paid, you need to portray a professional image.

I know what a waste of good camera, and if I am highly mobile I won't lug it around, as it is far too heavy!

The other reason I still have my film EOS, is sometimes 4MP, or 5MP is not enough. I currently have an assignment that I need to do that requires a sharp image of very high resolution, as it will be enlarged to around 2 meters (around 80 inches), the requirement from the printer is a sharp image of around 18 inches at 300dpi. If I had a good 8MP (or possibly a really clean 6MP) I wouldn't need my film SLR anywhere near as much.

[WW50]

Brad....

You hit something right on the head.
The other part is perception of the customer. They see the G3 and think hobby,

Many years ago I filled in shooting about 5 hockey games for a pro sports photographer friend of mine. He had a chance to do a dream assignment but had an obligation to the hockey team to cover every game. They were happier with my work than I was but the experience and the portfolio that I got were invaluable to me. I later applied for and got a job shooting game shots for a pro basketball team in my area based on my portfolio. The only concern that the PR director who hired me was that I used Minolta equipment. He told me that most of the guys used Nikon and Canon equipment and was concerned that my results might not good because of the equipment that I used. I, of course, told him that I also used Nikon cameras(which I didn't) and had to go buy a used, beat up Nikon body and lens to have at my feet during the games, all the while using my Minolta. I got quite good at shooting basketball and worked for the team for 5 years before I got tired of it.

Perception is a very funny thing, but believe me it is there.

Wendell

[sdommin]

They see the G3 and think hobby, they see an SLR with a large lens, they "feel" better about paying for a photo.

I have no reason to doubt that what you say is true, but I'm more concerned about the final image, not the image of the photographer.

[Deckyon]

but, you are a photographer, not the public. Sure, ultimatly it is the final image that matters, but their perception of a large SLR and lens cases gives them the "confort feeling" of "he has a lot of equipment, he must really know what he is doing." As photographers, and suposedly in the "know," we know different. The general population think the camera takes the better picture, not the photographer.