Rebel Xti or 30d?

[lqrox]

I'm sorry for a newbish question, I hope it won't take you too much time to tell me the difference. I was just about to purchase Rebel Xti, when I stopped and checked the other models such as 30d. The difference in prices isn't that big, how does it look in perfomance? Should I go with 30d insetad of Xti? I know I would get extra about 200 bucks if i'll go for Xti, which could get me some lens like nifty fifty or whatever else I need. I'd like to know your opinions about it. Thank you, and once again sorry for such a question:oops:

[Richard7481]

If money is not an issue, get the 30D. You won't regret spending the extra notes.

[Wilt]

If you live anywhere that you can walk into a store and handle them both, DO IT! You don't buy shoes by mail order without checking the fit, do you? This is a very important step...for some the XT is too small, others love it. for some, the XT has a viewfinder image that is too small ('like looking down a tunnel'), whereas the 30D is 15% larger. It is not just about features.

[lqrox]

If you live anywhere that you can walk into a store and handle them both, DO IT! You don't buy shoes by mail order without checking the fit, do you? This is a very important step...for some the XT is too small, others love it. for some, the XT has a viewfinder image that is too small ('like looking down a tunnel'), whereas the 30D is 15% larger. It is not just about features.

Yes, I know that 30d is a little bit bigger. I'm a big man I should not have any problems with that:lol: I just want to know if there is any difference in quality of the shots, I heard that 30d is a full frame camera too, xti crops 1.6, so I get wider angle, higher ISO. Someone said that new 40d is gonna be out soon. Does anyone know the exact date? Tell me if I'm wrong about it. I appreciate it.

[konaguy1123]

30d is not a full frame camera. it has the same crop factor as the xti but i think if you have the money the 30d is the better camera to buy

[AFcrosshair-1]

The best way for us to know what you would like, is to note your prefered settings for what type of shooting you would be doing with your camera. If you could answer those questions im sure it wouldn't be too hard for us to draw a conclusion for you.

[Lord_Malone]

XTi feels like a toy. 30D feels like a very well built solid toy. 5D feels like solid camera. 1D feels like a brick.

[ScottE]

Both cameras take excellent shots if the photograher does his job. You can't really make a decision based on image quality. You have to decide based on what you use the camera for.

The XTi is small and light, ideal for travel and other applications where small size matters. It is a new camera that has some features that do not exist on the 30D such as a dust removal system that shakes dust particles off the sensor and can even remove dust spots electronically from images if the dust remains on the sensor. There are more pixels than the 30D, which does not matter for the size of prints most people make, but could give a marginal improvement for very big enlargements. It is also cheaper if cost is a consideration.

The 30D has more advance features if you want to progress to an advanced amateur or professional level of photography. It also has the capability of shooting bursts of more shots at a faster shots per second which is useful when shooting sporing events. It is more solidly built if you use your camera in rough conditions.

The 40D does not exist. Whatever it is called, the upgrade to the 30D will probably have all the additional features on the XTi, plus more we do not know about. However, there is no release date announced. Speculation is everything from this winter to more than a year from now. The only thing certain is that eventually a new model will be introduced. While this will be a superior choice, the decision is whether you need a camera now or some time in the future.

[nicksan]

Yes, I know that 30d is a little bit bigger. I'm a big man I should not have any problems with that:lol: I just want to know if there is any difference in quality of the shots, I heard that 30d is a full frame camera too, xti crops 1.6, so I get wider angle, higher ISO. Someone said that new 40d is gonna be out soon. Does anyone know the exact date? Tell me if I'm wrong about it. I appreciate it.

I think either one is a good choice. The 30D is bigger (which I really like) built a bit better, has spot metering.

I agree that you should go to the store and handle each one. I had the 300D before my 20D(same as 30D in looks) and I have to say the 20D is much more solidly built. The thing I liked about the 300D was the size, so the 20D felt right at home. The 400xti is really smaller. But that's personal preference.

I don't think the Xti would prevent you from taking the pics you want. It's more about the lens than anything else.

You might want to consider getting a used 20D. You can find one for similar prices as the Xti. You can get your nifty fifty as well.

Can't go wrong either way.

[lqrox]

The best way for us to know what you would like, is to note your prefered settings for what type of shooting you would be doing with your camera. If you could answer those questions im sure it wouldn't be too hard for us to draw a conclusion for you.

It's gonna be my firsl dslr. I had a few p&s before, the last one I had was sony cyber shot dsc 828, which had few interesting features in it, I can't believe that I payed so much for it those 2 years ago. I just wasn't in dslrs that time. As I was saying, I was about to buy xti, but after I found out that 30d isn't really much more expensive now ($1000 with kit lens) I thought maybe I should invest in the better one. About what I like to shot, I love night shots, dsc 828 wasn't too good at it, specially at higher ISO, I also do a lot of indoors, low light warm shots are what I really like. I know that both of those cameras are great, and will do well. I just want to know:) your opinions if 30d is really worth those few more features.

[Hermeto]

Yes it is!
If money is not a problem, go for 30D and you'll never regret.

[Lord_Malone]

Everyone has already given you sound advice. It all boils down to personal preference. Go handle both and make your decision. For the record, spending the extra cash for the 30D would be worth it to ME. But is it for you? Let your beef marinate in that sauce.

[nicksan]

It's gonna be my firsl dslr. I had a few p&s before, the last one I had was sony cyber shot dsc 828, which had few interesting features in it, I can't believe that I payed so much for it those 2 years ago. I just wasn't in dslrs that time. As I was saying, I was about to buy xti, but after I found out that 30d isn't really much more expensive now ($1000 with kit lens) I thought maybe I should invest in the better one. About what I like to shot, I love night shots, dsc 828 wasn't too good at it, specially at higher ISO, I also do a lot of indoors, low light warm shots are what I really like. I know that both of those cameras are great, and will do well. I just want to know:) your opinions if 30d is really worth those few more features.

If low light and indoors shots are what you are into, then lenses are what you need to be concerned with...or get yourself a flash or tripod (430EX or 580EX???) There are all kinds of scenarios...still or moving subjects, etc...

I mean, you could get whatever camera you are going to get, then get the kit, and it might disappoint you or give you the wrong impression when shooting indoors. The nifty fifty might help you out with the wide aperture. It's kinda hard to focus and at 1.8 the DoF becomes a bit narrow.

The lens is more important than the body I think. Again, XTi, 30D, 20D, XT...all good choices!

Good luck!

[tsaraleksi]

If you are going to shoot a lot in low light, the 30D wins out because it has ISO3200, which can be pretty darn useful to have around.

[Marydoright]

I just went thru this same delima!

i was deciding between the XTi and the 30D.....my best friend just bought the 30D and this is her 1st dslr as well as mine. I went to Circuit City and Best Buy....and actually tried them out and held them. Im a lil 5'1 woman....tiny hands....and for me the XTi felt perfect. I also liked the anti dust sensor, the more mega pixels, and the fact that if I bought the XTi, I would have some money left over to spend it on a 3rd lens (just ordered the 55mm f/1.4). The 30D also felt great....a lil big for my hand tho.

I used this site......to help me find out what I needed and what to look for......
SLR Guide (http://www.digital-slr-guide.com/index.html)

good luck!

[gjl711]

Everyone has already given you sound advice. It all boils down to personal preference. Go handle both and make your decision. ...
Best advice. Handle both and go for the feel unless your specifically looking for the one or two features one offers over the other as feature and quality wise they are both practically identical. As for me, I seem to be swimming upstream here, but I am a big guy, 6'5" and I got to shoot with the 30 for a day and found it big and clunky. But thats me. Everyone has different preferences. Your going to have to discover which feels best to you.

[tsaraleksi]

Best advice. Handle both and go for the feel unless your specifically looking for the one or two features one offers over the other as feature and quality wise they are both practically identical. As for me, I seem to be swimming upstream here, but I am a big guy, 6'5" and I got to shoot with the 30 for a day and found it big and clunky. But thats me. Everyone has different preferences. Your going to have to discover which feels best to you.

To provide a funny counterpoint, I'm small guy (5'8") with small hands and I found the XT to be to small to use, it just didn't feel natural. It all depends on what you're used to, I suspect-- I went from Canon A-1 to Canon Elan to a 20D, so I'm just not used to small cameras.

[lqrox]

Thank you folks. You helped me to make sure. I've also read few other threads about the same problem ( I know I should do that before I started a new one:)) I'd rather have deeper buffer, 5fps burst, spot meter and higher ISO than those 2 more MP which seem to be more of marketing feature, self-dust-removal-system is a nice thing to have, but it doesn't take too long to do it by yourself either. So I will probably go for 30d. Thank you for your help.

[Marydoright]

my girlfriend got her 30D from Costco! LOL Their right now offering it with 2 lenses (same 2 I got) for a lil over $1200.....plus she said Costco has a awesome return policy. hahahaha

[lqrox]

my girlfriend got her 30D from Costco! LOL Their right now offering it with 2 lenses (same 2 I got) for a lil over $1200.....plus she said Costco has a awesome return policy. hahahaha


..and that's a great price, I'll check Costco too. I know those lenses aren't that good, but that's what my budget allows me to go for now anyway, plus nifty fifty:) I think they will be good as a starters. I hope your gf won't have to use that policy:)

[Marydoright]

hahahhaahaaa so does she! she just took it on a cruise with her and LOVED it! she is now in Disney World with it.....shootin up a storm! heres the link if it helps!

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11100558&search=canon%2030d&Sp=S&Mo=1&cm_re=1-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&N=0&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=All&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=canon%2030d&Ntt=canon%2030d&No=0&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1 (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11100558&search=canon%2030d&Sp=S&Mo=1&cm_re=1-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price%7C1%7C%7CP_SignDesc1&N=0&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=All&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=canon%2030d&Ntt=canon%2030d&No=0&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1)

its a big rebate....but well worth it in the end...$1229.99 for a 30D with 2 lenses!

my kit lenses arent too bad at all, at least for me! good luck!

[thekid24]

If you live anywhere that you can walk into a store and handle them both, DO IT! You don't buy shoes by mail order without checking the fit, do you? This is a very important step...for some the XT is too small, others love it. for some, the XT has a viewfinder image that is too small ('like looking down a tunnel'), whereas the 30D is 15% larger. It is not just about features.

lol I bought shoes online and they fit fine.Anyway I would probably go with the 30D,despite the fact I own the XT now and love it.But at the time for me I was able to buy mine for $400+ and the 30D was over a $1000+.So naturally I went for the XT.Like it was stated,if you have the oppertunity to handle both,do so before buying.

[liza]

I'd go with the 30D not only for the build quality but also for the command dial. It's much easier to use. The Costco recommendation is a good one, although you'll want to upgrade those lenses soon.

[grego]

XTi's advantages:
-price
-size(if you like small)

Don't fall for the megapixel BS.

Everyone has said everything else.

[BorkaP]

It was my understanding the 30D had better shutter life as well.

I played with both and the 30D felt like it was more solid and I liked the controls better.

The kit lens is not that good in my humble opinion. I borrowed some other lenses and the difference is unbelievable. If I had it to do over again I would have gotten the body only and skipped the 18-55. I haven't gotten around to replacing mine yet, but I'm building my little arsenal and soon I will have it completely replaced.

Keep in mind I'm new to all this so my opinion means nothing. :D

[JaGWiRE]

Yes, I know that 30d is a little bit bigger. I'm a big man I should not have any problems with that:lol: I just want to know if there is any difference in quality of the shots, I heard that 30d is a full frame camera too, xti crops 1.6, so I get wider angle, higher ISO. Someone said that new 40d is gonna be out soon. Does anyone know the exact date? Tell me if I'm wrong about it. I appreciate it.
I'm a small kid, and my hands mold better to the Rebel (damn puny hands), but I still have the 30D, for a mixture of features, comfort with the controls, and build quality. I have trouble using my friends Rebel XT.