EOS 1D Mark II official web page and sample images

[admin]

http://www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/eos1dm2/index.html

[admin]

And all ISO samples are in http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm2/iso_sample.html

[defordphoto]

I can hardly wait....

[admin]

Yes it is very impressive. It's also fun to see how 1Ds users are suddenly very defensive (see e.g. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=7622121 ) about their gear :)

The low noise is fabulous. I tested some sharpening on those JPG's and the usual bright-pixel noise artifacts which I get with Photokit (I normally use 4x6 capture, narrow) and 10D's ISO 800 are totally gone even in mark II's ISO 1600, and 3200 is quite ok. Very easy to sharpen and not much is needed. All we need is good RAW converter for it (I hope C1 will be one, too) and there should be no need for further post processing in PS.

What is also very good is that dynamic range is definitely improved, check out the 10s night shot for example.

Oh why it is not April yet! :?

[Canon10D]

Another link for sample images:
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm2/eos1dm2_sample-e.html

They are pretty impressive, I must say, although I saw a dust spot on the blue sky in Sample 1, slightly to the left above the snowboarder's head. Anyone knows if these are images straight out of the camera without post-processing?

[mvrekum]

I don't know about you guys, but I am not realy that impressed by the online samples. They look out of focus. I hope they post better samples soon.
I also had a look at the samples from the Powershot Pro1 (http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/pspro1/sample-e.html) and they look a lot more crisp. Check out the boat!

What do you think?

[fwhitesides]

According to the site, the camera has a 200,000 shutter cycle reliability expectancy. At 8.5fps, that means you could theoretically wear it out in just 23,529 seconds, or 329 hours, of continuous shooting. :D

[Pekka]

I don't know about you guys, but I am not realy that impressed by the online samples. They look out of focus. I hope they post better samples soon.
I also had a look at the samples from the Powershot Pro1 (http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/pspro1/sample-e.html) and they look a lot more crisp. Check out the boat!

What do you think?

They are not good demo photos at all - obviously not taken by a professional (composition, usage of apertures, focus points and shutter speeds reveal it) and this eats perceived sharpness. Also, it seems that these photos were taken with early preproduction models or saved twice as exif does not contain some data like flash usage and sharpness level.

Those files are low quality JPG's with sharpening most likely set at 0. The night city shot was taken with a bad sample of 16-35L. In action shots shutter speed is too low.

This is why I don't concern about default sharpness - I see how much they tolerate tweaking, what kind on aliasing they have, is there moiré, how the noise looks and how it responds to post processing, how the colors are and how dynamic range behaves when levels are changed (that is why 16 bit files would be nicer).

Also, comments from people who have actually used Mark II recently tell that it is much sharper than those images,straight from the camera.

I would not worry too much about softness now - I'll get the camera for weather sealing, ETTL-II, speed, AF, reliability, good colors, dynamic range and low noise - sharpness level out of the box is really a secondary issue and this will surely be tweakable for JPGs and it is really a non-issue with RAW workflow.

[fwhitesides]

sharpness level out of the box is really a secondary issue and this will surely be tweakable for JPGs and it is really a non-issue with RAW workflow.
If this is the case, why bother with expensive L lenses? Why not just get a good, but cheaper alternative if sharpness isn't an issue?

[Pekka]

sharpness level out of the box is really a secondary issue and this will surely be tweakable for JPGs and it is really a non-issue with RAW workflow.
If this is the case, why bother with expensive L lenses? Why not just get a good, but cheaper alternative if sharpness isn't an issue?

See http://photography-on-the.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=149960#149960

[timmyquest]

i really envy anyone with this camera. At this point in my photography it would be over kill perhaps, as well as my mesealy $160 a week paychecks. But none the less..8.2 shots per second 20 shot bursts...the ISO noiselevel, shutter speed...gah, makes me water in the mouth :lol:

[CyberDyneSystems]

I tell you what,. I agree this camera IS going to be TOTAL OVERKILL for my use,... I am going to be hard pressed finding ways to be able to put it to good use...


Yes,. it will be a very difficult task indeed... one at which I may fail.. :(

But I'll get over it! :roll: :wink:

[Tom W]

I tell you waht,. agree this camera IS going to be TOTAL OVERKILL for my use,... I am going to be hard pressed finding ways to be able to put it to good use...


Yes,. it will be a very difficult task indeed... one at which I may fail.. :(

But I'll get over it! :roll: :wink:

If you run out of ideas, remember your friend Tom W. :D

I can help you unload that unwanted photographic equipment. :D

Actually, it would be overkill for me too, and that is why I'm not even going to look at it. Perhaps 3-5 years down the road, I may upgrade, but the 10D is so nice that I don't see the need right now.

[GenEOS]

I wish ya'll would quit taling so much about this camera.
It is making me way to anxious.

I have been shooting for the local rags with my D60. I went ahead and ordered a MKII because I have always felt that I am not using the proper tool for serious sports photography. The samples posted of the 3200iso settings have me all but drooling. This will be my first EOS 1 body. I am very much looking forward to that, plus all the digital features.

I feel it is money well spent. In retro-spect, I should have bought a 1D, but you can't go back in time. I chalk that up to experience. This camera has an enourmous price tag, but I feel it will more than pay for itself, once I am finally able to capture better images.

In my case most my assignments are in poorly lit gyms and the D60 has never really done the job I needed it to do. Although, I have forced it to capture one or two good images.. I just want to increase the number of usable images I get.

For me, the AF system and FPS are enough to make it all worth while. When I heard pro sports photogs talking about how quick the thing is, it gets me even more anxious. For me, it is going to be like stepping into a F1 race car after driving a mazda all my life.

[MediaMagic]

I'll be sure to order mine from Dell...


sorry, couldn't resist.

[CyberDyneSystems]

I just looked at the ISO 50 Viola compared to the ISO 1600...

Needles to say the ISO 1600 looks good but at full size while it is loading .. it is clearly High ISO...

But thats not the whole story,. the image is huge and veiwing full scale at 78 DPI or whatever my monitor is.. well it tells an uglier than natural tale...

I opened both the ISO50 and the ISO1600 each in there own ACDsee window,. and scaled them to fit the 24" monitor.. then I clicked on the task bar and switched from one image to the next......

At what amounts to an 11" X 17" print size (the rough dimensions of my monitor) I could BARELY SEE THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:

Wow. 8)

[Laziferous]

I tell you waht,. agree this camera IS going to be TOTAL OVERKILL for my use,... I am going to be hard pressed finding ways to be able to put it to good use...


Yes,. it will be a very difficult task indeed... one at which I may fail.. :(

But I'll get over it! :roll: :wink:
I'm with Tom, let me know if you want to get rid of that nasty outdated 10D ;)

[droosan]

It's also fun to see how 1Ds users are suddenly very defensive

I was just thinking: If someone came to me with a MII in one hand and a 1Ds in the other and said, "Take one. You can't sell it. You have to use it." I wouldn't hesitate. I'd take the MII. Would anyone take the 1Ds? I guess studio or architecture photographers?

[PacAce]

It's also fun to see how 1Ds users are suddenly very defensive

I was just thinking: If someone came to me with a MII in one hand and a 1Ds in the other and said, "Take one. You can't sell it. You have to use it." I wouldn't hesitate. I'd take the MII. Would anyone take the 1Ds? I guess studio or architecture photographers?

I'm sure there are since some folks have been clamoring for an FF DSLR.

[droosan]

I'd rather have a bigger sensor than more MP's.

[CyberDyneSystems]

For me it would be the MkII for sure.. I was really about to go for a used 1D a few months back.

I want the burst rate increase over the 10D,.. and I am interested to see how the 1DMkII stacks up against it's two older brothers re: AF etc...

11MP allways seemed "scary large"

Where as 8MP is a nice incremental boost over the 10D's 6MP

I don't mind the 1.3X crop factor either.. most of my shooting is at the telephoto end of things. It will be nice to get a little wider out of the 17-40mm compared to the 10D, but I'm not hurting for a full frame,. the 17-40mm is really as wide as I can possibly use on the 10D allready.

Lastly this ISO thing is huge.

I spent the last two days in final dress rehearsal for "FireBird" and got tons of photos too...

The bummer is that the lighting designer ,. though a genious,. does not exactly make things very bright :(

I was at ISO 1600 most of the time and still getting speeds under 1/125 @ f/2.8 :(

Rarely could I go down to ISO 800...

Yes,. the 10D is one o fhte nbest @ 1600.. but it looks to me like the MkII really has it beat!

[Canuck]

For me it would be the MkII for sure.. I was really about to go for a used 1D a few months back.

I want the burst rate increase over the 10D,.. and I am interested to see how the 1DMkII stacks up against it's two older brothers re: AF etc...

11MP allways seemed "scary large"


I have to agree with you on it being scary large, like billboard on highway big! I'm not sure if it was the 1Ds or the Kodak Pro 14N, or both but whatever the case it was a real stickler on the lenses you used. It was notorious for exposing weak glass that you could get away with on the 10D/300D. Maybe it is the FF camera idea? We are getting to the point that the optics are the weakest link. What next, all flourite lenses???

[peterpijpelink]

It would be good if Canon would offer a firmware update for the 1D which offers some of the features like auto-rotate like the 10D has to currrent users of the 1D. For me it seems a simple upgrade to add some of the features for users who once bought a top camera and to keep this in the top range with some small minor updates.

But hey, maybe I think this world is to good to be true... so drooling at the 1D Mark II.........


Peter
(yes, i have a 1D myself...)

For me it would be the MkII for sure.. I was really about to go for a used 1D a few months back.

I want the burst rate increase over the 10D,.. and I am interested to see how the 1DMkII stacks up against it's two older brothers re: AF etc...

11MP allways seemed "scary large"

Where as 8MP is a nice incremental boost over the 10D's 6MP

I don't mind the 1.3X crop factor either.. most of my shooting is at the telephoto end of things. It will be nice to get a little wider out of the 17-40mm compared to the 10D, but I'm not hurting for a full frame,. the 17-40mm is really as wide as I can possibly use on the 10D allready.

Lastly this ISO thing is huge.

I spent the last two days in final dress rehearsal for "FireBird" and got tons of photos too...

The bummer is that the lighting designer ,. though a genious,. does not exactly make things very bright :(

I was at ISO 1600 most of the time and still getting speeds under 1/125 @ f/2.8 :(

Rarely could I go down to ISO 800...

Yes,. the 10D is one o fhte nbest @ 1600.. but it looks to me like the MkII really has it beat!