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NordieBoy
13th of December 2006 (Wed), 14:42
A series of 1/50th pan shots from a 3 hour Cross Country race my brother organised.
Pans turn out much nicer when the vehicle is only moving in 1 dimension.
Add some suspension movement in there and things start getting awkward.
But overall I'm happy with how things turned out.
C&C welcome.
#1
http://potn.nelson.geek.nz/20061210-112636.jpg
#2
http://potn.nelson.geek.nz/20061210-121819.jpg
#3
http://potn.nelson.geek.nz/20061210-122101.jpg
#4
http://potn.nelson.geek.nz/20061210-123944.jpg
#5
http://potn.nelson.geek.nz/20061210-135447.jpg
#6
http://potn.nelson.geek.nz/20061210-135535.jpg
#7
http://potn.nelson.geek.nz/20061210-135650.jpg
#8
http://potn.nelson.geek.nz/20061210-135702.jpg
NordieBoy
13th of December 2006 (Wed), 14:44
And here are the smilies I had to remove from the parent post as they took it over 8 pics...
:D :rolleyes: :D :D :cool: ;)
greg20d
13th of December 2006 (Wed), 14:47
great pans ...looks like they are going 200 mph lol
my pans arent that good
NordieBoy
13th of December 2006 (Wed), 14:55
Thanks :D
It just takes practice.
When you've been doing low-speed MX pans as long as I have (1), it becomes instinctive and natural and you expect every one to be a keeper (2).
:lol:
(1) I took my first last week :D
(2) Well 1 in 10 or 20.
TKRFAN
13th of December 2006 (Wed), 15:26
Hi :)
I like the first and last ones the best - and doesn't the smiley and picture limit suck lol :D:D Would be nice to allow one smiley per picture ;)
basroil
13th of December 2006 (Wed), 15:42
8+4 are best in that order. other ones seem a bit too blurry, but at 1/50th they are still 100x better than anything i could hope for
NordieBoy
13th of December 2006 (Wed), 16:02
#8 is my brothers girlfriend so I had to get a good one there or I'd be in trouble.
They've all got a bit (usually central) that is sharp(ish).
I think I'll try 1/100th next time and see how much is sharp then :D
CliveyBoy
13th of December 2006 (Wed), 16:15
You're panning well! I think #1 is nice, #8 is better, and #4 is the pick - it has a sense of story. You have the same problem as with mountain bikers - the head is down, giving bad shadow. At the World Champ Mountainbiking in Rotorua, photogs were using wireless control to a 580EX on the ground, set a stop down. It gave the pix a big lift. I shot from ground level with on-camera 550EX. and that worked. But I was always concerned about losing my face to a stray wheel. I quess that a grand-level flash would be at high risk in the MX nvironment.
akiwi
13th of December 2006 (Wed), 16:56
Excellent Panos. 1/50 th is very slow! I normally don't go below 1/60th. It can be frustrating getting a good shot. I need more practice. Maybe with skiing in a couple of weeks.
NordieBoy
13th of December 2006 (Wed), 20:15
You're panning well! I think #1 is nice, #8 is better, and #4 is the pick - it has a sense of story. You have the same problem as with mountain bikers - the head is down, giving bad shadow. At the World Champ Mountainbiking in Rotorua, photogs were using wireless control to a 580EX on the ground, set a stop down. It gave the pix a big lift. I shot from ground level with on-camera 550EX. and that worked. But I was always concerned about losing my face to a stray wheel. I quess that a grand-level flash would be at high risk in the MX nvironment.
Nah, I don't like using a flash :cool:
You don't need flashes to bring out the detail at MB races :D
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/cycling/2006-01-28-NZ%20Mountain%20Bike%20Champs/4-Cross/2%20-%20Racing/slides/20060128-181919.jpg
Ves
13th of December 2006 (Wed), 20:48
That is the detail we want for sure :P
Great pics! 1/50 sec pans aren't too hard to get one, but you had many hits which I wouldn't be able to pull off :P
Yay for shutter burst! :P
NordieBoy
13th of December 2006 (Wed), 23:20
I got about a 66% success ratio with the slow pans.
I don't use burst mode at all.
Unless...
The only times I've used it are at a MX for a crash and karting for a crash.
If you really need it then a 9 frame burst isn't really enough especially when it takes sooooo long to clear the buffer.
My thinking on burst mode is using it to capture a sequence of events is cool.
If I had a faster camera then I might use it more.
SeanH
14th of December 2006 (Thu), 23:26
Tough at that speed.....I bit blurry for my taste. I've found between 100th - 200th is perfect for MX. I think 4,6, & 7 are the best of the group.
NordieBoy
15th of December 2006 (Fri), 03:57
Normally I'd be shooting at 1/320th and around 1/200th for pans.
These were for fun :D
barP
15th of December 2006 (Fri), 13:46
it's always fun to try different things, and for 1/50th, these are great! i've tried many different speeds, and like you said, with moto, there's too much movement in every direction besides horizontal to make anything below 100 or 80 very feasible.
wp.
Speedsixnine
17th of December 2006 (Sun), 20:24
Pretty good you don't see MX pans very often.
NordieBoy
18th of December 2006 (Mon), 03:37
If you look at my site you do :D
sirsloop
18th of December 2006 (Mon), 08:39
for those you'll get MUCH better results shooting at least 1/100th. Like you said, there is a lot of suspension and rider movement...
I like shootin high shutter and place myself next next to a mud bog turn :)
http://photos.tallmanphoto.com/photos/99391527-L.jpg
NordieBoy
18th of December 2006 (Mon), 14:50
Nah, 1/50th pans work best at 1/50th :D
What's that shot at?
1/640th?
NickSimcheck
18th of December 2006 (Mon), 15:15
Is it just my monitor or does that shot from sirssloop look like it was sharpened to 350% on a 1.7 pixel radius?
sirsloop
18th of December 2006 (Mon), 17:46
I think its just resizing compression and the rooster tail kickin up. I went back into Canon DPP and looked up the specs - sharpening was 3/10 (not a lot) and saturation was bumped up 1/4 in the raw editor. Its 300mm 1/640 f8 iso 400 on a real real real bright day. It rained all night so the dirt (mud) was very rich colored.
http://www.jdhaesloop.com/IMG_0290.JPG
barP
18th of December 2006 (Mon), 20:48
Is it just my monitor or does that shot from sirssloop look like it was sharpened to 350% on a 1.7 pixel radius?
yes.
wp.
Stump
28th of December 2006 (Thu), 12:21
Is it just my monitor or does that shot from sirssloop look like it was sharpened to 350% on a 1.7 pixel radius?
Looks the same on mine.
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