CHECK ISO BEFORE SHOOTING! *crying silently*

[vvizard]

I was outside the other day. Was going down to the lake where a lot of people where supposed to gather for model-plane (quite big planes) flying. When I got there they where about to leave, so I didn't get any shots :/ But while driving back home, I drove right by this incredible sight. This carpet of dense fog was creeping in to "swallow" a snow-covered field, all assisted by this beautiful sunset. And to top the picture off, a jet-plane was spinning a diagonal trail just above the sunset. Although I later found the jet-plane a little distracting, it just looked tooo perfect in real life =) Anyway I probably snatced 60-70 pictures, also many without the plane, so no big deal.. _BUT_ I hadn't checked my ISO-settings, so everything was shot at ISO-1600 *DOH!* All the pictures are pretty much useless at anything above the posted size. I ran it through neat-image.. Helped a bit, but still it's noise-level is _way_ to high for this kind of picture (which in my eyes shall be completly noise-free). If there's one little Cf I would like Canon to add in the next firmware, it would be the "revert back to ISO-100 after 1 hour idleness". It would've saved me so many times :(

http://www.foto.no/bildekritikk/images/100653.jpg

[robertwgross]

I'm curious about why this forum's 800x800 pixel maximum size for linked images is not used. Or, when it is a larger image, why depend on auto-downsizing to occur?

---Bob Gross---

[CyberDyneSystems]

I've done the same thing a number of times :(

At one point a taped a post it on the back of the camera "CHECK ISO"
:roll:

[maderito]

Very nice shot. If any of the rest are like this one, they're worth salvaging. There is not enough detail in this shot to defeat a good noise removal tool. Neat Image, if properly used, should be up to the task and rescue you from you misery. Prepare the noise profiles carefully and be patient - Neat Image is not for the impatient.

The real works begins after you press the shutter button. :wink:

[scsmith10D]

This happens to me all the time. I have to shoot 800 or 1600 in my church (no flash, slow lenses...) Then, when I next grab the cam, it's still in 1600 and I don't always catch it. Today, after shooting at 1600 and after saving the images and erasing the cards, I put the ISO back to 200 when I repacked the camera.

In a somewhat related note, I was at the beach taking "family" shots one summer when my wife hollered, "look at THAT!" I saw some small bird walking in the surf and went to take a couple of snaps. She says, "No....not that...THAT!" I look up to see the Blue Angels making a beauty pass down the beach at Orange Beach, AL., with smoke on in diamond formation. I was using my brand new 10D in Portrait Mode. I spin the dial to what looks like "Sports" mode and start firing away at the jets. When I finished, I looked down at the mode dial to see that I had really selected Macro mode! (low ISO, one-shot focus, single shot.)

http://homepage.mac.com/scsmith/PhotoAlbum35.html

(Last picture on the page.)

[defordphoto]

Bob: The 800 limit is to keep bandwidth to a decent level when many photos are posted. The nice thing is that all you have to do is click on them to get the full size pic.

vvizard: We have all done that. Anyone that says they haven't is lying.

[Jesper]

Yes, I've also made that mistake....

It would be nice if the ISO value wasn't so hidden on the camera. It would be great if the ISO was displayed in the viewfinder or at least on the top LCD screen without the need to push a button...

I've learned myself to check the settings of the three buttons on top of the 10D before shooting: AF / WB, Drive / ISO, metering mode / flash exposure compensation, and the AF point selection button on the back (top right). But sometimes I forget about it...

I would also be nice to have a button to reset all the camera's settings to default values.

[vvizard]

Very nice shot. If any of the rest are like this one, they're worth salvaging. There is not enough detail in this shot to defeat a good noise removal tool. Neat Image, if properly used, should be up to the task and rescue you from you misery. Prepare the noise profiles carefully and be patient - Neat Image is not for the impatient.

The real works begins after you press the shutter button. :wink:

You might be right. I've no real experience with neat-image. I just drag the square on a low-detail field and let NI do the rest. Guess there's lot of tweaking there. I shall try harder to fix one of my shots up.. or.. Haha I forgot, I live in Norway, I can just wait till tomorrow, go out to the same place, and expect it to look just as beautiful as long as the temperature is keeping itself down (that makes 99% fog-guarantee at the place this shot was taken) =D Winter half the friggin year actually isn't so bad when you like to take nature-pictures :) Lot of spectacular light in Norway during winters :) To bad I live to far south to experience Auroras very often. They're beautiful :)

But anyway, I'll look into NI a little deeper. Thanks for the tip. Anyway, look what the people living north in Norway experience "all the time" (jealous).

DISCLAIMER: This shot is not taken by me. It's taken by a guy named "Torgeir Sørensen", and is laying public as a christmas-card to all users of the norwegian foto-community-site www.foto.no. To get the picture in it's original place, follow this link: http://www.foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=93910

http://www.foto.no/bildekritikk/images/93876.jpg

[robertwgross]

Bob: The 800 limit is to keep bandwidth to a decent level when many photos are posted. The nice thing is that all you have to do is click on them to get the full size pic.


Yes, I understand the principle behind the limit. I guess most posters do not want to go to the trouble of downsizing their own image.

---Bob Gross---

[defordphoto]

Bob: The 800 limit is to keep bandwidth to a decent level when many photos are posted. The nice thing is that all you have to do is click on them to get the full size pic.


Yes, I understand the principle behind the limit. I guess most posters do not want to go to the trouble of downsizing their own image.

---Bob Gross---

True. For me, 800xXXX is the standard for a forum.

[defordphoto]

Bob: The 800 limit is to keep bandwidth to a decent level when many photos are posted. The nice thing is that all you have to do is click on them to get the full size pic.


Yes, I understand the principle behind the limit. I guess most posters do not want to go to the trouble of downsizing their own image.

---Bob Gross---

True. For me, and obviously you too, 800xXXX is the standard for a forum.

[Guillermo Freige]

The 800 limit, as implemented here, has nothing to do with saving bandwidth because the full image is downloaded and then rescaled by the browser. It's only a cosmetic issue. In fact regarding bandwidth is worse, because 2 images are downloaded from the server where the image resides: one from the forum server itself (every time anyone opens the thread) and another from the actual user. So the server bandwidth is doubled (at least, user requirements are cached by the browser, forum requirements aren't) and of course Pekka's server takes the worst part as it's downloading each image every time to check the size, so really I don't understand the advantages of this new feature.

[kafene]

I've done that many times, and still continue to do it more often than I'd like. I attribute it to my film days when I'd put a roll in and forget about it because I never change it once the roll is put in.

That mentality hasn't worked once I went digital where you can change the ISO on the fly. My brain just doesn't seem to want to accept that freedom. :lol:

kafene.

[nosquare2003]

Bob: The 800 limit is to keep bandwidth to a decent level when many photos are posted. The nice thing is that all you have to do is click on them to get the full size pic.

vvizard: We have all done that. Anyone that says they haven't is lying.

No, I don't remember if I have ever done that. But I forgot (several times) to reset the drive mode after using self timer. And I had to hold the camera like a statue to take one picture.

[Conor]

ARGH!!!

i did this today shot about 256megs of pics all in ISO 1600 =(

:oops: :x :oops: :cry:

[MediaMagic]

I've done the same thing a number of times :(

At one point a taped a post it on the back of the camera "CHECK ISO"
:roll:

Yeah, that's an easy one to overlook, especially when you're trying to catch a shot on the fly. I have recently put my little sticker back on the camera, right below the viewfinder, "ISO". I have learned what "range" of metering to expect from the camera with my various lenses, so if I see a faster shutter than what I am expecting for the conditions in Av mode, I instantly know it's the damn high ISO setting left from the night before. But, having to stop, set the ISO (which should have been done to begin with), then reframe is annoying. So, that little sticker comes in handy.

David

[typer77]

It's funny how this thread got started. i took a bunch of pictures at a huge Toyota and honda show room here in Japan. the I recalled that my ISO was at 400 the whole time when i read this thread!! :oops:

[Morden]

I've inadvertently left my 10D's ISO set high several times, usually remembering sometime during shooting, but once only finding ouy when the unexpectedly noisy images appeared on the computer display. Very annoyed with myself whenever anything like this happens!

[PaulB]

We have all done this to a greater or lesser degree.
However, with film you were stuck halfway through a 36 exposure of 1600 ISO and didn't often have the chance to change it - at least with digital we do have the chance (IF we remember).
Here's a tip - whenever you have to sneak a shot or take one quickly, check what the exposure was and if it seemed 'wrong' ie. too high or low for thar scene, or whatever, then check and adjust the ISO before you continue shooting.
This way a least you get a shot , which, if it is a lifetime only one, is at least on the card, and have a chance at a better one at a more suitable ISO.
This does mean that we should all have an idea what the correct exposure would be for a shot at the ISO we would choose given the time!

As for the auto revert to 100 ISO CF feature - no thanks, it would introduce another possibility of wrong ISO for the job.

[vvizard]

As for the auto revert to 100 ISO CF feature - no thanks, it would introduce another possibility of wrong ISO for the job.

Well why not? If it's a custom-function you'll of course have full freedom of wether you want to use it or not :)

[CyberDyneSystems]

At least you remembered your camera! It could have been sitting home on the kitchen table! :roll: :wink:

[Morden]

At least you remembered your camera! It could have been sitting home on the kitchen table! :roll: :wink:

Yeah, I've seen that thread. :)

[FotoPhreak]

It's funny how this thread got started. i took a bunch of pictures at a huge Toyota and honda show room here in Japan. the I recalled that my ISO was at 400 the whole time when i read this thread!! :oops:

Why is this a bad thing?

[CyberDyneSystems]

I have re-addressed this issue,. I used a little lable printer,. and have the word ISO adhered to the top of the flash cover... white on black!

[Motorsports Photo]

Dont you guys notice the shutter/f-stop settings are high for the light you have?

Thats when I notice the ISO needs changing. When i see f8's and 11's and it isnt sunny I know it needs an adjustment.

-Pete

[FotoPhreak]

Dont you guys notice the shutter/f-stop settings are high for the light you have?

Thats when I notice the ISO needs changing. When i see f8's and 11's and it isnt sunny I know it needs an adjustment.

-Pete

This is a good learning point for me ...

When you say that the f8/11 is given automatically ... does this happen in manual or are you in another mode?

[CyberDyneSystems]

Dont you guys notice the shutter/f-stop settings are high for the light you have?

Thats when I notice the ISO needs changing. When i see f8's and 11's and it isnt sunny I know it needs an adjustment.

-Pete

Usually I do notice this,. now with more familiarity with the camera,. but once again,. if you grab your camera and start shooting,.. well if I do,. I sometimes don't look at any of the above if my mind is particularly focused on the subject...

so I often notice .. but not untill after I have shot a number of images..

But I'm getting better.

[PacAce]

Bob: The 800 limit is to keep bandwidth to a decent level when many photos are posted. The nice thing is that all you have to do is click on them to get the full size pic.


Unfortunately, setting the 800 limit on the image doesn't really do anything for the bandwidth because the full image file is still being downloaded. It's at the PC where the image is downsized, not at the server. In other words, the downsizing isn't doing anything for the people with slow dial-up. It still take forever to download the larger images even though they are displayed at 800. :(

[Motorsports Photo]

This is a good learning point for me ...

When you say that the f8/11 is given automatically ... does this happen in manual or are you in another mode?

I only shoot in manual mode when the camera cant do it right. Mostly I'm in Tv mode for action and Av for anything that can stay still.

If I am in manula mode and didnt notice, I'll see it in the histogram when I check it after a few shots. I have not been happy with the metering on my Digital Canon SLR's. The film bodies did a much better job.

-Pete