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SYS
23rd of December 2006 (Sat), 14:09
Since photograph/camcorder were strictly forbidden during the actual event, Holiday Pops, I took these at the dress rehearsal the evening before with my 70-200 from a balcony.

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2) My boys are seated far left and far right in the back row.
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SYS
23rd of December 2006 (Sat), 14:10
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4) My younger boy (7 yrs) in the back row and the older one (9) in front of him...
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Shutter22
23rd of December 2006 (Sat), 15:16
Is your youngest sons third finger locked in the last photo? tisk -tisk

Very nice shots. I love youth orchetras.
johnstoy
23rd of December 2006 (Sat), 16:22
Pretty good looking set of photos...the school strings look very nice...what part of the world is this at?
SYS
23rd of December 2006 (Sat), 18:20
They're in the Colorado Springs Youth Symphony's "Vivace Strings" orchestra:

http://www.csysa.com/
SYS
23rd of December 2006 (Sat), 18:20
Is your youngest sons third finger locked in the last photo? tisk -tisk

Very nice shots. I love youth orchetras.

Hmmm.. another thing to work on... :)
JimCapaldi
26th of December 2006 (Tue), 20:00
Very nice shots. My daughter is in the local youth orchestra (Delaware Valley Young Musicians' Orchestra). Their concert was earlier in the month. At the concert, they allowed photography, but no flash. I pumped up the ISO to 800 and got some decent shots.

Thanks for sharing.
SYS
26th of December 2006 (Tue), 20:19
Very nice shots. My daughter is in the local youth orchestra (Delaware Valley Young Musicians' Orchestra). Their concert was earlier in the month. At the concert, they allowed photography, but no flash. I pumped up the ISO to 800 and got some decent shots.

Thanks for sharing.

What instrument does your daughter play? What grade is she in? Mine are in 2nd grade (7 yrs) and 4th grade (9 yrs). I'd love to see your photos of the concert. Please please please!! :D I just love children playing music....
DwightMcCann
26th of December 2006 (Tue), 23:09
I like the first image best ... I would urge CWB in these situations ... the light never changes so you could get it long before moving to the balcony.
SYS
26th of December 2006 (Tue), 23:24
I like the first image best ... I would urge CWB in these situations ... the light never changes so you could get it long before moving to the balcony.

Excuse my ignorance, but what's "CWB"? :oops:
SYS
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 09:18
Excuse my ignorance, but what's "CWB"? :oops:

Okay, I found out it stands for customer white balance after doing some search on this forum. But then the question is should I still CWB when I'm shooting RAW and adjusts the WB during PP?
Curtis N
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 09:33
should I still CWB when I'm shooting RAW and adjusts the WB during PP?There are several ways to do it. Some people prefer custom WB, others just adjust in post. The color really doesn't look too bad on these.

Nice shots!
SYS
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 09:42
Thanks, Curtis!

While I'm at this, let me ask another question. Let's say I want to use the gray card to set CWB. That means, in exact situation involving above photos, I'd have to be physically ON THE STAGE or very nearby to set the CWB correctly, don't I? Another way of asking the same question is, if getting on the stage or nearby is simply NOT possible, then I'd just have to forget about CWB all together?
Curtis N
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 10:02
That's correct. Custom WB is often not a practical option with stage lighting. Further, different parts of the stage might be lit by different kinds of lights at different power levels. There may be a spot on the conductor that is a different color temp than the floods on the orchestra. Sometimes the lights aren't brought up to full power until the concert begins.

During the concert, it might be advantageous to look for a WB target and shoot it for reference. In the first shot there is a music stand with white paper on it that could be used, but only if it's not overexposed. To use this as your target you would want to zoom in on it and reduce exposure to make it a viable reference point. White shirts can sometimes work, too.
SYS
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 10:11
During the concert, it might be advantageous to look for a WB target and shoot it for reference. In the first shot there is a music stand with white paper on it that could be used, but only if it's not overexposed. To use this as your target you would want to zoom in on it and reduce exposure to make it a viable reference point. White shirts can sometimes work, too.

A great tip!! But of course this would only work if my zoom gets me to the white subject (paper, t-shirts, etc.) enough to fill the focus circle of my camera, if not the whole frame?
DwightMcCann
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 10:39
I often walk right to where my subjects are/will be with my gray card and shoot it. I also use a white sheet of paper and autoexpose a shot of it. I don't, yet, shoot much RAW. But even if you shoot RAW you still need a reference (although you can certainly adjust to taste) to get the neutral color, which is one reason that CWB is helpful in either case.
SYS
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 10:55
Thanks, Dwight. I've ignored everything but exposure since shooting RAW, but I'm going to play around with CWB and see if I could improve the results.
DwightMcCann
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 10:57
It can be a super tool in your kit if you get comfortable with it ... only takes a minute (or less) and can certainly improve your RAW PP to have the reference ... and since it is reflected in the LCD preview image you will get a better idea of the look that will result.
Curtis N
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 13:26
this would only work if my zoom gets me to the white subject (paper, t-shirts, etc.) enough to fill the focus circle of my camera, if not the whole frame?If you're doing a custom white balance, then you need to fill the partial metering circle. But if you just want a reference to click on with your RAW converter later, it can be a fairly small part of the image.

Like Dwight mentioned, the important thing is to have a reference.
SYS
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 15:10
You guys are great. Always learning new things thanks to folks like you!! :D :D
JimCapaldi
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 21:26
What instrument does your daughter play? What grade is she in? Mine are in 2nd grade (7 yrs) and 4th grade (9 yrs). I'd love to see your photos of the concert. Please please please!! :D I just love children playing music....

My daughter is 14 and plays violin in the orchestra. Here are a few shots I took the night of the concert.
JimCapaldi
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 21:27
The next two shots:
JimCapaldi
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 21:28
And one more shot:
Shutter22
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 21:34
Yay violinists.

I forgot to mention, I play violin as well, I wish I had some nice pictures of myself during concerts. I always look so geeky.
SYS
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 21:38
Jim -

Thanks for sharing the photos. I enjoyed them a lot. You're lucky that they allow you to take photos.
SYS
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 21:43
Yay violinists.

I forgot to mention, I play violin as well, I wish I had some nice pictures of myself during concerts. I always look so geeky.

Would love to see your's, too. Here's the YouTube of my younger boy's solo performance of Vivadi's Concerto in A Minor, First Movement. Hope you enjoy it in spite of several mistakes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-CftFzqf0