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ifxbonz
17th of February 2004 (Tue), 20:05
My 10D is set to RGB and I shoot mostly in RAW I use (Capture one DSLR) for raw conversion to (photoshop CS). my prints to from my p400 olympus printer are ok for the most part, but when I burn files to cd or email files there apearance is not even close to those viewed in CS or from my Dye Sublimation p400 prints. How can I set my color management in CS and DSLR and is this where my colos problems are coming from?
DSLR color managment
work space / Adobe RGB 1998
web destination / sRGB ice61966-2.1
proof destination / Adobe RGB 1998
Photoshop CS work space
RGB: Adobe RGB 1998
CMYK: us.web coated (swop) v2
Andy[/b]
Jesper
18th of February 2004 (Wed), 07:43
First of all, if you're shooting RAW it doesn't matter if you set the camera to sRGB, Adobe RGB or anything else. The color profile settings in Capture One determine what the color space of your output pictures will be.
Convert your images to sRGB before e-mailing them or putting them on the web. sRGB is the default color space (in Windows) for applications that don't support color management. Also, is your monitor properly calibrated and profiled? If someone else looks at your photos with an uncalibrated monitor, you can expect the colors and contrast to be different than on your own monitor.
scottbergerphoto
18th of February 2004 (Wed), 07:51
As Jesper said, you left out the most fundamental part of the process. Your monitor has to be calibrated for everything else to work. If yours is, ignore this post.
Scott
maderito
18th of February 2004 (Wed), 08:02
If you are proofing your images so that WHILE IN PHOTOSHOP your monitor matches your prints, then the image will look different when viewed on a standard monitor (yours or someone else's) OUTSIDE OF PHOTOSHOP.
To see what the print looks like on your monitor outside of PS, view the image with the proof setting to "Monitor RGB." If it looks different compared to what you see when proofed against the CMYK color space (and it should), then you have to edit the image again to look OK on standard monitors.
By setting the proof view to Monitor RGB, you are disabling Photoshop color management and thus viewing the print as it appears in a non color managed environment.
For images destined for monitor viewing, get the print looking good in PS using Adobe RGB color space and then do as Jesper suggests - convert the image to sRGB and save this version of the image to send to your friends.
maderito
18th of February 2004 (Wed), 09:56
Follow up thoughts:
1. If your monitor is poorly calibrated AND you have been editing your images so that the Photoshop proof view of the image matches the actual CMYK print, then the image will not look right when viewed on a standard monitor.
In effect, you are editing your image to compensate for your monitor miscalibration while using the final print as the standard of comparison.
2. If your workflow from Photoshop to print driver is not set up properly, you may be compensating (unknowingly) by matching PS proof view to final print. If this is a possibility, we would need to know what selections you have made in PS print preview for "source space" and "print space" and what the color settings are in your print driver.
ifxbonz
18th of February 2004 (Wed), 21:28
woody,
Thank you for the reply.
it sounds as if you have an understanding on my "problema". I would like to be able to ask for your help on the proper settings in photoshop and dslr. Would your assistance be available by phone at my expense. my email is (ifxbonz@adelphia.net). I would understand if this is not possible but understanding color management seems to involved for texting back and forth.
andy
maderito
19th of February 2004 (Thu), 06:50
Andy - I sent you an e-mail.
ifxbonz
22nd of February 2004 (Sun), 12:22
Just a word to those folkes out there reading through this CANON FORUM I would like to take the time and thank 8) Maderito a regular reader who is supplying others with REAL and Useful information in this new digital world with the commitment to help others without any personal gain.
A true photographer willing to help others with his Knowledge base.
Woody Lee thanks again my workflow improves each day.
Andy 8)
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