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asabet
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 09:07
That''s what I want. If it matched the optics of a good copy of the Sigma equivalent and added IS plus USM, I would pay $800 for one.

blackshadow
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 23:38
I just have one question - why???? If you can't hand hold a 30mm f1.4 steady you may as well give the game away I say.

If you need to do long exposures get a tripod.

coreypolis
27th of December 2006 (Wed), 23:57
IS can add close to 800 as is, and with the 35L as mignificant as it is, I don't see the point

Sprout Crumble
29th of December 2006 (Fri), 21:39
Agreed, no IS but that would be a popular lens and a potentially high quality one to take the place of the underwhelming 50/1.4.

jfrancho
29th of December 2006 (Fri), 21:49
They already have it in EF mount: 28mm f/1.8 USM, and it's $400. I can't see any reason to add IS to such a lens. If you need 2-3 stops of IS to keep from shaking at 1/60, then you should see a doctor or cut out the caffeine.

ScottE
30th of December 2006 (Sat), 00:41
There are a couple of reasons this lens might be considered. Because of the smaller image circle an EF-S lens is potentially sharper than an EF lens. When you use an EF lens on an EF-S camera you are paying for corner image quality you can't use that was obtained at the expense of central image quality that you need.

IS can be useful on any lens because there are always going to be low light situation that push the ability to hand hold despite using a fast aperture and ISO.

I doubt that a 30 f/1.4 IS is very high on Canon's development list because there are some much bigger needs in the EF-S lens line up, such as an EF-S 50-150 f/2.8 IS. The Sigma 50-150 f/2.8 is likely to attract more Canon customers than their 30 f/1.4 and Canon may have to respond.

asabet
31st of December 2006 (Sun), 18:24
I just have one question - why???? If you can't hand hold a 30mm f1.4 steady you may as well give the game away I say.

If you need to do long exposures get a tripod.

I can hold a 30/1.4 steady for about 1/20s but usually use 1/50s to be sure. I'd love to hold it very consistently at 1/8s or better, and don't want to need a tripod with me to make it happen.

They already have it in EF mount: 28mm f/1.8 USM, and it's $400. I can't see any reason to add IS to such a lens. If you need 2-3 stops of IS to keep from shaking at 1/60, then you should see a doctor or cut out the caffeine.

I own that lens, am a doctor, love my caffeine, and can consistently hold the lens steady at 1/60s. I want it to be f1.4, and I want to be able to consistently hold it steady for 1/8s or better.

I doubt that a 30 f/1.4 IS is very high on Canon's development list because there are some much bigger needs in the EF-S lens line up, such as an EF-S 50-150 f/2.8 IS. The Sigma 50-150 f/2.8 is likely to attract more Canon customers than their 30 f/1.4 and Canon may have to respond.

I agree a Canon EF-S 30/1.4 is unlikely to happen, and even less likely to have IS. Canon would have more demand for a 50-150/2.8 or a 17-200/3.5-5.6 IS. Still this is a thread about what I want, not what I'll get.

jfrancho
31st of December 2006 (Sun), 18:53
1/8 second? Get a tripod. It'll be cheaper than IS. If you need that kind of shutter with a wide open aperture, there probably isn't enough light for AF to work. It's just too esoteric an application for any manufacturer to consider.

asabet
31st of December 2006 (Sun), 19:43
1/8 second? Get a tripod. It'll be cheaper than IS.

I'm not looking for the cheapest option, and I don't want to carry a tripod!

If you need that kind of shutter with a wide open aperture, there probably isn't enough light for AF to work.

Not true. I have 1/8s shots on tripod where the AF worked fine. Why wouldn't it work just as well with IS? Also, who said I'd be using the lens wide open all the time? The IS would provide the most benefit when I was interested in stopping down in somewhat low light. For example, if I need more DOF in a museum, I could stop down and use IS rather than carrying a 30/1.4 in addition to a separate, slow IS lens.

It's just too esoteric an application for any manufacturer to consider.

That may be, and I share your doubt that it will hapen, but I want it. At some point, all companies will have to have body IS, and then I'll have it!

jfrancho
1st of January 2007 (Mon), 01:21
Also, who said I'd be using the lens wide open all the time? For the rest of the time, that lens already exists: EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS. :D:D:D Just turn the knob to 30mm.

I know where you're coming from, I've always thought a widish/normal prime with IS would be a cool niche lens. Actually, I'd go more radical: 17mm f/2.8 IS. I really wouldn't care if it was EF or EF-S or if it weighted 10 pounds and was a foot in diameter. I'd figure out a use for it.

blackshadow
1st of January 2007 (Mon), 02:27
Agreed, no IS but that would be a popular lens and a potentially high quality one to take the place of the underwhelming 50/1.4.
What underwhelming performance? My 50 f1.4 performs very well.

asabet
1st of January 2007 (Mon), 09:24
For the rest of the time, that lens already exists: EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS. :D:D:D Just turn the knob to 30mm.

But I want to be able to go out with only one lens and take some shots at 30/1.4, and others at 30/8, all with IS!

I know where you're coming from, I've always thought a widish/normal prime with IS would be a cool niche lens. Actually, I'd go more radical: 17mm f/2.8 IS. I really wouldn't care if it was EF or EF-S or if it weighted 10 pounds and was a foot in diameter. I'd figure out a use for it.

Now your lens really does exist. Take that EF-S 17-55 IS, set it at 17mm, a little tape or gle to keep it there, and you've got it!

jfrancho
1st of January 2007 (Mon), 13:23
OK, I'll take an 17mm F/1.4 if you force me ;)

asabet
1st of January 2007 (Mon), 14:39
OK, I'll take an 17mm F/1.4 if you force me ;)

There you go. Aim high!

Might even be possible with EF-S. Similar to the 24/1.4L.

milou
8th of January 2007 (Mon), 17:46
OK, I'll take an 17mm F/1.4 if you force me ;)

Me too!

MrChad
13th of January 2007 (Sat), 17:57
I'd be much happier with an EF-S ultra wide.

A 10mm/2.8 would be a nice prime, and hopefully not budget busting.
This would be a great complement lens for anyone with a FF set of wide zooms.

Given the sales success of the Sigma 30mm/1.4 I see no reason for Canon to ignore that specific nitch lens either.

jfrancho
13th of January 2007 (Sat), 18:48
Given the sales success of the Sigma 30mm/1.4 I see no reason for Canon to ignore that specific nitch lens either.Ignoring the niche, or developing it? They already have quite a few similar offerings in several price points:
24 f/2.8
24 f/1.4
28 f/2.8
28 f/1.8
35 f/2
35 f/1.4