10D and rain

[perfectpixel]

Hi All,
tell me if I should be worried...
I shot a baseball game today in a cold hard drizzle that turned pretty heavy by the end.
My 10D and 100-400 lens got a good deal of water on them. The push/pull zoom on the lens made me even more nervous about the moisture.
I shot all through the drizzle/rain thinking both the 10D and the canon lens are made well enough to withstand this.
Am I right, or did I just compromise my equipment?
say it ain't so :?

[Bruce Hamilton]

I shot all through the drizzle/rain thinking both the 10D and the canon lens are made well enough to withstand this. Am I right, or did I just compromise my equipment?
If it had stayed drizzle, you probably would've been safe. If it turned really hard, you might have a problem. Rain is not a camera's friend, digital or otherwise, unless it was designed to be resistant.

[scottbergerphoto]

I don't know about the lens, but the 10D is definitely not made to get wet. Any water that got inside while it didn't croak the camera this time, can start destroying your electronics. With enough cumulative damage your 10D will not work as expected and will suffer in performance. I suggest you get some kind of rain gear for your camera.
Scott

[perfectpixel]

oops. That doesn't sound good.
It was hard drizzle. body and lens sure got wet, but I wouldnt call it soaked. I packed up when I couldnt stand it anymore.
I'll leave the camera off with the CF and bat doors open overnight. Maybe it'll air out :oops:
here's hoping for the best

[Pekka]

Canon 10D is not weather-sealed.
100-400 is most likely not sealed, either (at least Canon site does not mention it).

To get full sealing against dust and moisture, you will need 1D(S & markII), a lens with sealing, and a filter on lens. If you use extender you'll need mark II 's.

To keep the unsealed gear working on rain needs good luck.

[perfectpixel]

oh boy.
I did have a filter and the lens hood on. But I do worry about the moisture on the barrel as I zoomed in and out. In case there's damage, what should I look for and how soon would I see effects?

[Sketcher]

So have you posted the pics anywhere? I'd be interested in seeing what you shot during all that :).

[perfectpixel]

working on it :)
BTW, I called the camera place where I bought my gear. He thought the lens should be OK. Look for water spots or fogging maybe. geez I check it every 15 minutes. Still feels cold abd damp when I work the zoom. I need some Tums!

[defordphoto]

working on it :)
BTW, I called the camera place where I bought my gear. He thought the lens should be OK. Look for water spots or fogging maybe. geez I check it every 15 minutes. Still feels cold abd damp when I work the zoom. I need some Tums!

The camera still works. Dry it off, put it in a warm, dry area of your house and leave it alone. Same with the lens.

Tomorrow, order rain gear for your camera.

[perfectpixel]

Thanks Jim. That's exactly waht I'm doing. Nice to hear a vote of confidence :D

Sketcher, here's a link to the gallery
http://www.pbase.com/perfectpixel/clu_kingsmen
and one of the shots I like:
http://www.pbase.com/image/26260552.jpg
There's a lot of shots here. Believe it or not these are ~80 of ~400 I shot! That's how much of an amateur I am. :oops:
I'd love to trim it to ~25. But each one of these tells a story from the game.
I'm hoping the team will have me back again for more.
Please let me know what you think. I value your input at this forum.
Cheers!

[robertwgross]

I shoot nature photography a lot, and if that puts me out in marginal weather, then so be it. I have good all-weather Goretex garments for my own body, but I have to take care of my camera as well. If I am spending most of the time covering ground, then I can keep my camera stuck away in its over-the-shoulder holster. On some occasions, I am out there stuck in one place, and if snow or rain is coming down, then I don't want to leave my camera totally exposed to it. When I am skiing, I normally wear a synthetic vest, and my camera will fit under it (with the main strap around my neck). Then when I need to shoot, I can unzip it slightly and the camera emerges.

If the weather is really bad, my main protective tool is a clear shower cap. This is made of vinyl, and it has an elastic band around the bottom. If you want to keep it simple, then keep the shower cap over the main part of the camera, and just lift this side to get your eyeball to it, or lift that side to stick the lens out. Some users take this one step farther, and they cut holes in the shower cap for lenses to stick out or for eyeballs to stick in.

---Bob Gross---

[MediaMagic]

While not the lease expensive solution, I use a Pelican Camera Protector. It takes a bit of getting used to and if you use a twist zoom, working the zoom on the fly takes some practice. It's a solidly made "raincoat" for and 35mm SLR sized body. The cost is about $30. It may or may not interest you.

here's the link:

http://porterscamerastore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=10-0842&Category_Code=C2D

[defordphoto]

Nice action shot Unstuck!

[perfectpixel]

thanks.
My first game above little league level. Now I understand the difference between a 10D and MarkII. Glad you got one on order.
I think canon should lend one to a guy like me for a while. Wouldn't that be great advertising for them? :D :wink: I mean if I could take good shots with it, then just think........
I'm willing to make that sacrifice.
BTW, did you take time to look through the gallery? Just wondering what you thought of the whole thing.
Cheers!

[Ballen Photo]

Unstuck, Looks like you got some pretty good action shots there. The last shot of the Coach? He looks like he's happy to have you take his photo, but trying hard not to show it. Nice work, and I wish you an early Mk II.
........Bruce :D

[Wickedfn4u]

Unstuck here is a secret I learned for my daughters hearing aids. We save those dry packs that come with electornics and put them in a zip lock bag overnight. I know you can go to a outdoor store or rv shop and buy that dryair packets. Take one of those, dump it in the bottom of a tupperwar bowl, set the camera on a block, then put the lid on it and let it sit for a day maybe two? That would suck any water that might have built up inside.

Just a thought?

Tom

[perfectpixel]

Unstuck here is a secret I learned for my daughters hearing aids. We save those dry packs that come with electornics and put them in a zip lock bag overnight. I know you can go to a outdoor store or rv shop and buy that dryair packets. Take one of those, dump it in the bottom of a tupperwar bowl, set the camera on a block, then put the lid on it and let it sit for a day maybe two? That would suck any water that might have built up inside.

Just a thought?

Tom

excellent idea!
thanks!!

[cardigan1979]

Hi thee Unstuck, good pic.

I shoot at football (soccer) matches with my 10D. I use a heavy weight carrier bag with an elastic band around my lens hood witch works OK. When I bought my 10D I was doubious about the 'feel' of the camera as I had a KodakDCS 520 beforehand. I'll post a pic I took in the sleet/snow of Iyseden Christie scoring at Macclesfield.

My canon lenses survive pretty well in the wet but Sigma have always let me down in poor weather.

[KennyG]

I have seen this happen with a 10D and 100-400L. The water gets into the lens at the seal between the inner and outer tubes, particularly if the camera is repeatedly pointed downwards to look at the LCD. I have seen a 100-400L used in heavy rain and it was like a water carrrier's bucket by the end of the day. With the 10D you have to be very careful as there is a PCB immediately underneath the bottom plate that seems to be a water 'magnet' and some of the joints on it have been known to corrode due to dampness.

The aftercare trick is to use bags of Silicagel to absorb the moisture. Put the camera in an open carboard box (the one it came in is good), with the body cap off, battery door and CF door open (battery and CF removed) and pointing down. A few bags of Silicagel in the box and put it somewhere dry and warm but not hot. You do a similar thing with the lens. Leave them for a couple of days at least and avoid sudden temperature changes.

Keep a couple of small bags of Silicagel in the bottom of your camera bag anyway to help get rid of any moisture.

[perfectpixel]

I have seen this happen with a 10D and 100-400L. The water gets into the lens at the seal between the inner and outer tubes, particularly if the camera is repeatedly pointed downwards to look at the LCD. I have seen a 100-400L used in heavy rain and it was like a water carrrier's bucket ....
The aftercare trick is to use bags of Silicagel temperature changes.....



Well, I'm off to buy some Silicagel. I hope it's not too late. My lens never became a water carrier, but I kept it pointing down on purpose, thinking that the only part to worry about was the front element (despite teh filter and the hood).
Oh well, live and learn. I think I'll get out of this one OK. I hope this thread will have helped others too.
thanks

[perfectpixel]

Unstuck, Looks like you got some pretty good action shots there. The last shot of the Coach? He looks like he's happy to have you take his photo, but trying hard not to show it. Nice work, and I wish you an early Mk II.
........Bruce :D

Yep, that's the coach. I think they had just scored a run. The smile turned into a smirck when he saw me. I think he couldn't figure out why I was there sprcially in nasty cold weather (by So California standards) and what I wanted maybe?!
I'm hoping he'll like my shots and call me back for another game. Assuming my gear works of course :wink: :(
I had a great time and found myself more relaxed and improving after the first couple of innings. These guys were a lot tougher than little leaguers (no surprise of course). When the action ahappened, it happened so fast.
Thanks for the comments.