Fellow POTN'er KevC puts the 1d weathersealing to task [Archive]

Ronald S. Jr.

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:01

Ok, are all "Ls" weather sealed then?

No no, not at all. Less than a dozen, I believe.

EDIT: here's the sealed lenses in the EF collection.

16-35mm f/2.8L USM
17-40mm f/4L USM
24-70mm f/2.8L USM
24-105mm f/4L IS USM
28-300mm f/3.5-5.6L IS USM
70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM
70-200mm f/4L IS USM
50mm f/1.2L USM
300mm f/2.8L IS USM
400mm f/2.8L IS USM
400mm f/4 DO IS USM
500mm f/4L IS USM
600mm f/4L IS USM
Extender EF 1.4x II
Extender EF 2x II

Phil Light

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:05

How about a caption for the photo in the OP:
For sale - Canon 1D. Only used once. Very clean. :D

ifonline

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:07

That's putting a lot of faith in the weather seals, no?

Ronald S. Jr.

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:10

Nah, it's fine, Ian. It's foam, not water. There's nothing "pouring" over the camera. Just bubbles of soap.

calicokat

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:16

Thaaaaaaat's right. Rub it in. :cry:

THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ME! :lol:

What did you do for New Years Eve

ifonline

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:16

Nah, it's fine, Ian. It's foam, not water. There's nothing "pouring" over the camera. Just bubbles of soap.

Ah... Everyone looked, um... wet... so I was thinking they were in a pool or something.

calicokat

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:24

Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda

Phil Light

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:26

No no, not at all. Less than a dozen, I believe.

EDIT: here's the sealed lenses in the EF collection.

16-35mm f/2.8L USM
17-40mm f/4L USM
24-70mm f/2.8L USM
24-105mm f/4L IS USM
28-300mm f/3.5-5.6L IS USM
70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM
70-200mm f/4L IS USM
50mm f/1.2L USM
300mm f/2.8L IS USM
400mm f/2.8L IS USM
400mm f/4 DO IS USM
500mm f/4L IS USM
600mm f/4L IS USM
Extender EF 1.4x II
Extender EF 2x II

Ronald - Awesome! I'll make a note of this list. Thank you!

KevC

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:36

Nah, it's fine, Ian. It's foam, not water. There's nothing "pouring" over the camera. Just bubbles of soap.

Oh believe me.... you have *NO* idea.... fkkin Zitune spraying everyone with water. Camera was drenched. Soapy water dripped out of the CF card slot. Battery was wet. I'm letting her dry now.... I hope it's ok. Recovered the files from the night but windows only saw corrupt files. Hm.

It was fun though =) Very worth it.

Ronald S. Jr.

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:37

You snooze, you lose. :rolleyes:

Gotta be willing to take chances in life and live your own life.

Oh I know it. Just didn't have money for airfare and "what not". Still don't. Looks like fun, though.

cosworth

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:45

Yeah, the foam also has a full pressure fire hose spraying at you. I carried half a Viva roll with me.

Moe pics!

http://www.jasonhollister.com/images/hot_foam.jpg

calicokat

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:56

Yeah, the foam also has a full pressure fire hose spraying at you. I carried half a Viva roll with me.

Moe pics!

http://www.jasonhollister.com/images/hot_foam.jpg

Very nice, too bad Ronald wasn't there :lol:

calicokat

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 19:56

Well, you could've sold some of the stuff you've received from your parents over the years. Or asked them to help out especially since your mom buys a lot of stuff for you.

All depends on how badly you want to experience something like that offer. There's always a way to make it work in same way, shape, or form.

That would be too risky, getting out in the world and all

Dante King

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 20:12

yeah nothing that a guy Ronnie's age would be interested in down there.

Thanks for the moe shots, but quite teasing I want MOE AND MOE!!!!

Zilly

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 20:34

i sooo wanna come and spend some of my summer brake working for you any chance ???

Ronald S. Jr.

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 20:40

Alright alright, guys. Let's not start in on me again.

Well, you could've sold some of the stuff you've received from your parents over the years. Or asked them to help out especially since your mom buys a lot of stuff for you.

All depends on how badly you want to experience something like that offer. There's always a way to make it work in same way, shape, or form.

Could have, I suppose. Wouldn't know what I could sell to get that much, though. How much was your ticket? Mind saying?

Money's tight at the moment, though. Mom won't be springing for anything anytime soon.

adam*

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 21:00

I am jealous.... very jealous.

Tom W

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 21:30

Very nice, too bad Ronald wasn't there :lol:

Too bad Tom W wasn't there!! :)

MDJAK

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 21:34

Call me a wimp. I wouldn't put any of my camera bodies under those bubbles. No way, no how.

As Dante said: Moe, Moe, Moe. Show us the outtakes, darn it.

me

Woolburr

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 21:40

Too bad Tom W wasn't there!! :)

I'm thinking I missed the boat too....sure beats dealing with a flooded house! Bring on the bubbles....show us more.:D

fWord

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 22:16

Oh my gosh...camera, bubbles and chicks. Wet! Wet! Wet!

That's just nasty. :p Makes me love the weather-sealed gear even more.

Carzee

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 22:20

Great photo and I hope you really enjoyed the foam.

The downside is that everything fun is bad for you -so stop it -stop it!
:)

calicokat

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 22:43

More photos please :eek:

PetKal

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 23:37

Excellent photos compadre, but the one of poor Kev trying to keep his cam outta harm's way is a sure winner.:lol:

Woolburr

1st of January 2007 (Mon), 23:41

You could've always added some bubbles to your flooded house! Of course, the effect wouldn't have been the same unless you had some hotties there too!

:p

ROFL...you, my friend, are just plain cold-blooded!:shock:

Lightstream

2nd of January 2007 (Tue), 00:41

Nice.. it shows the 1D has what it takes.

Lots complain about "Canon didn't define weather sealing" well this is as much torture testing as any rig can be reasonably expected to stand up to.

I went on my first mission where weather sealing made-or-broke the shoot - fireworks in the rain. Incidentally, for thy information, there *IS* a reason why one should buy weather sealed lenses even if one does not have a 1-series body - it's easier to ziplock bag the body while leaving the lens to stick out. After all, that IS supposed to be what catches the light to take the pretty pictures.

I left my 1D somewhere inaccessible, so I was forced to run the mission with the ziplock and the 5D and 17-40. No problems. However, the 1D and successors have firmly cemented a place in my lineup for days like that. I'm genuinely impressed Canon put in the effort to weather-harden the 17-40 at its price point.

theflyingkiwi

2nd of January 2007 (Tue), 04:02

Thaaaaaaat's right. Rub it in. :cry:

THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ME! :lol:

you know that could have been, but it wasn't

bad luck :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

as you can see my heart goes out to ya :)

good test of the 1 series tho.

Dante King

3rd of January 2007 (Wed), 01:30

you know that could have been, but it wasn't

bad luck :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

as you can see my heart goes out to ya :)

good test of the 1 series tho.

this is so cold it is FUNNY!!!

so what happened to kev's camera?

JCR

3rd of January 2007 (Wed), 05:37

c'mon leave the guy alone already, so he missed out. Life will present other chances and i'm sure he learned his lesson when they come around again.

I would definately not bathe with a piece of kit like that, also correct me if i'm wrong but don't most lenses need a front filter to be fully weather sealed?

Great shots btw, but yanno that already ;)

cosworth

3rd of January 2007 (Wed), 09:17

He had a filter on there plus a weather resistant neoprene cover for his flash.

rklepper

3rd of January 2007 (Wed), 09:37

PS. Notice that bad a$$ weather sealer I rigged up for his 420?

I would be very interested in this. Care to go into more detail?

Thanks

KevC

3rd of January 2007 (Wed), 20:16

so what happened to kev's camera?

The CF card went corrupt. I had to use CONVAR to recover files. Probably got 70-80% of them back, cos I recall some very specific shots that I didn't recover.

I let it dry that night. I took it out the next day, shot my daily beach/sailing shots. The mirror was all fogged up. The viewfinder started fogging up too. After a while, it cleared... and the back and top LCDs were all fogged. I freaked out. Kept shooting though, I was out there already =)

Got back. Let it bake in the beautiful sun. Everything seems ok now... besides ONE thing.

I did a mini-shoot later (3 photos). He didn't like the shots. I reshot it, (4 additional shots) using the same card. I stuck the card into the computer...
only the 3 original photos showed. Huh? I tried recovering using CONVAR.... the shots that I just took recovered fine. Interesting.

Oh... and I think my camera is deathly afraid of RiData cards now (the one that was dripping wet when I pulled it out of the foam party). I can format and use Jason's Sandisk cards fine, HOWEVER when I stick my RiData card it says "ErrorCF... Please Format" and when I format... it says "Cannot format, replace card".

I tried with both my 2GB RiData cards... same thing! I tried formatting in Jason's camera, it formats fine but not in mine. I tried formatting in Windows, I even tried writing all zeroes using various programs. NOTHING. My camera wont take RiData cards anymore....

Hm....

When I finally escape this paradise of sun, sea, sand... it's going straight to Canon. They might have a chuckle how much sand is in there =)

Ronald S. Jr.

3rd of January 2007 (Wed), 20:51

Nothing happened to Jason's cameras, eh?

KevC

3rd of January 2007 (Wed), 21:12

Nothing happened to Jason's cameras, eh?

He shot from outside the foam party =)
//edit: I figured my camera wouldn't get nearly as battered in Toronto as it would've here ..... plus I had to capture the amazingness of a foam party like this:

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3316/foamyoa9.jpg

(the dark corners were from somebody hitting my hood.... got displaced)

Lightstream

3rd of January 2007 (Wed), 22:17

He shot from outside the foam party =)
//edit: I figured my camera wouldn't get nearly as battered in Toronto as it would've here ..... plus I had to capture the amazingness of a foam party like this:

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3316/foamyoa9.jpg

(the dark corners were from somebody hitting my hood.... got displaced)

Dude that shot is brilliant.. and you are MUCH braver than any of us to wade right in. Does the foam sting if it gets in your eyes? I'd be more concerned about my ability to shoot!

Dump the cheap Ridata crap, Sandisk exists for a reason. ;)

KevC

4th of January 2007 (Thu), 09:19

Dude that shot is brilliant.. and you are MUCH braver than any of us to wade right in. Does the foam sting if it gets in your eyes? I'd be more concerned about my ability to shoot!

Dump the cheap Ridata crap, Sandisk exists for a reason. ;)

Yes yes yes.... the foam (are actually soap suds and WATER) stings like a fkkn b!sh. Ouch! I spent a lot of time wiping it out of my eyes, but then decided I was missing too many good shots so I just shot blindly. I let the camera choose the AF point (which is pretty good at doing), shot pretty narrow aperture (f/11) and hoped for the best.

I had more issues with soap on the filter (and blurring EVERYTHING) than misfocussing.

Not to mention the soap suds in the viewfinder making it impossible to use.... :mrgreen:

Lightstream

4th of January 2007 (Thu), 09:24

Man that is truly a TORTURE test of the 1D. I'd be concerned more about eye protection.. no wonder the chick in the first shot is wearing wraparound sunglasses.

One of the awesome things about the 45 point AreaAF is that it is A LOT SMARTER than 9-point AF about choosing the right things to lock onto. I can't exactly quantify it, but after long experience, I do not trust multipoint AF with my 350D, 20D or 5D.. but I trust it with the 1D. Only very rarely does it get it wrong and that is why I have Cfn 18-2.

You are brave.. the most I've ever done is stand out in the rain with my 5D and 17-40 (bag the 5D but the weathersealed lens can stick out) waiting for fireworks to start. Really had to put in the effort to clean the filter from all the rain stains though!

SuzyView

4th of January 2007 (Thu), 09:29

LOL. You guys kills me! Nice foam fight. I'm interested to know how the camera is doing. I don't think I'd even dare getting my 5D near a mess like that since it isn't weather sealed, but a nice waterproof disposable probably would have been fine. :)

Lightstream

4th of January 2007 (Thu), 09:46

Normally we stuff a point and shoot into one of Canon's dive housings (40ft rated polycarbonate).. now that is WATERPROOFING :p

grego

4th of January 2007 (Thu), 19:53

3 brands of CF cards worth buying, that i've used.
Transcend, Lexar, Sandisk.

That sucks the weather sealing did not work right. I'm kinda bummed about that.

cosworth

4th of January 2007 (Thu), 20:12

That sucks the weather sealing did not work right. I'm kinda bummed about that.

Are you kidding me? He was constantly being pummeled by a fire hose 15 feet from him! The weather sealing holds just fine. I've posted the exact same event and results from my 1Ds with zero fogging or issues with battery of CF card ingress.

Quite the contrary, I think KevC and myself have proven the weathersealing of a 1 body is kick a$$!

grego

4th of January 2007 (Thu), 20:28

Are you kidding me? He was constantly being pummeled by a fire hose 15 feet from him! The weather sealing holds just fine. I've posted the exact same event and results from my 1Ds with zero fogging or issues with battery of CF card ingress.

Quite the contrary, I think KevC and myself have proven the weathersealing of a 1 body is kick a$$!

Well it worked to a degree, but having to send it into Canon i don't think really holds that completely true. But I guess we'll know more after Canon gets back to him.

cosworth

4th of January 2007 (Thu), 20:47

Well it worked to a degree, but having to send it into Canon i don't think really holds that completely true. But I guess we'll know more after Canon gets back to him.

His camera works fine. It's his CF card that is bunk. He's out shooting with his 1D right now.

grego

4th of January 2007 (Thu), 20:58

His camera works fine. It's his CF card that is bunk. He's out shooting with his 1D right now.

Oh okay, well then, glad everything is working and I feel better about all of it then.

Gujustud

9th of January 2007 (Tue), 03:05

Man thats so awesome! Weather sealing rocks. I desperately need to get a 1ds soon. I HATE using my rain cover in the stupid Vancouver weather here.

btw, I'm jealous.

StealthLude

16th of January 2007 (Tue), 18:03

my mouth dropped to the floor after seeing this thread!!!!!!!

I think this is giving me a VERY strong case to one day get my 1D !!!

I still dont know if id have the balls to take it into pouring rain, or allow someone to hose my camera down on purpose... but its nice to know "i can"

I really want to hear and SEE more about the 1D waterproofing and what it can stand up to.

Excellent shots with the foam party!