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timmyquest
22nd of February 2004 (Sun), 19:38
Do they make them???
I can only find USB 2.0, only problem is i use alll my internal USB connections and i'd rather not use another. And again, i'd rather have an internal card reader rather then an external.
robertwgross
22nd of February 2004 (Sun), 20:13
Card readers can be internal or external. I think external is more common.
Card readers can be USBxxx or Firewire, plus a couple of rare interfaces. USB is more common. Firewire is faster.
So, if you have a bunch of USB ports tied up, then that means that your computer has a USB controller inside.
Similarly, if you want to have a Firewire port, then that means that you must get a Firewire controller inside. Once you have the Firewire port ready, then attach a Firewire card reader. I believe that a Firewire controller cannot be indiscriminately applied, or else it won't get full speed.
I have both a bunch of USB ports and Firewire ports on the case of my computer, both in front and in the rear. I've never actually seen the Firewire controller inside, but it is there.
---Bob Gross---
timmyquest
22nd of February 2004 (Sun), 20:16
No offense, and thank you for the reply.
But i already knew everything you posted, as i built the computer i'm on/use.
Perhaps you could point me in the direction of one of these internal fire wire readers ;-)
robertwgross
22nd of February 2004 (Sun), 21:13
Perhaps you could point me in the direction of one of these internal fire wire readers
Do you mean an internal Firewire reader or an internal Firewire controller?
My HP computer came with a Firewire controller built onto the motherboard, and it has multiple Firewire ports that come out onto the case. I would think that most really good Firewire control is built onto the motherboard because of where it has to get to the internal bus structures. But, there might be exceptions that I am not aware of.
I don't think that there are many, if any, internal Firewire readers. I can't quite visualize that.
---Bob Gross---
timmyquest
22nd of February 2004 (Sun), 21:17
Perhaps you could point me in the direction of one of these internal fire wire readers
Do you mean an internal Firewire reader or an internal Firewire controller?
My HP computer came with a Firewire controller built onto the motherboard, and it has multiple Firewire ports that come out onto the case. I would think that most really good Firewire control is built onto the motherboard because of where it has to get to the internal bus structures. But, there might be exceptions that I am not aware of.
I don't think that there are many, if any, internal Firewire readers. I can't quite visualize that.
---Bob Gross---
By internal i mean one mounted in a 5.25x4 drive bay (or 3.5 bay but that would do me no good)
robertwgross
22nd of February 2004 (Sun), 22:38
Non-responsive.
Parse my question again.
Internal Firewire controller or internal Firewire reader?
---Bob Gross---
cgratti
22nd of February 2004 (Sun), 22:55
Do they make them???
I can only find USB 2.0, only problem is i use alll my internal USB connections and i'd rather not use another. And again, i'd rather have an internal card reader rather then an external.
Just buy a USB 2.0 4 port hub and an external reader.... you can hook 4 devices up to 1 USB port in your machine....
USB 2 is a bit faster than Firewire anyway...
480 megabits per second (Mbps) for USB 2.0
400 Mbps for FireWire
Belmondo
22nd of February 2004 (Sun), 22:58
[quote=timmyquest]USB 2 is a bit faster than Firewire anyway...
480 megabits per second (Mbps) for USB 2.0
400 Mbps for FireWire
As long as there aren't other USB devices using up bandwidth. :!:
cgratti
22nd of February 2004 (Sun), 22:59
[quote=timmyquest]USB 2 is a bit faster than Firewire anyway...
480 megabits per second (Mbps) for USB 2.0
400 Mbps for FireWire
As long as there aren't other USB devices using up bandwidth. :!:
yes... but he can hook up the reader and other things that he doesnt us often, and when transferring files he can just use the reader and turn off the rest...
CyberDyneSystems
22nd of February 2004 (Sun), 23:00
Part of the problem,. if you don't mind me pointing out . is you are all second guessing the question :)
He says what he's looking for in the thread title.. :roll:
Sorry,
Anyways,. Timmy
Internal Firewire reader;
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductdesc.asp?description=20-176-813&depa=0
And just for Variety,. internal USB2;
http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=GS-G2
Hubs can sometimes make the readers communication go "all screwy" so I recomend NOT using a hub for the card reader.
timmyquest
22nd of February 2004 (Sun), 23:06
Part of the problem,. if you don't mind me pointing out . is you are all second guessing the question :)
He says what he's looking for in the thread title.. :roll:
Sorry,
Anyways,. Timmy
Internal Firewire reader;
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductdesc.asp?description=20-176-813&depa=0
And just for Variety,. internal USB2;
http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=GS-G2
Hubs can sometimes make the readers communication go "all screwy" so I recomend NOT using a hub for the card reader.
lol..i give up.
maybe not...
I'm looking for an internal (as in it goes in the 5.25x4 inch drive) card reader. It uses the firewire interface.
no biggy...i'll find what i'm looking for
samdring
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 14:12
...which is exactly what the first link in the reply from CDS will take you to!
timmyquest
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 15:13
...which is exactly what the first link in the reply from CDS will take you to!
I thought so at first but it didnt really say which interface it uses, is it safe to assume that because of the front firewire port that it uses firewire...i guess i never really thought about it
CyberDyneSystems
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 15:50
What's the matter Timmy? Didn't you like the color I picked out?
Well,. here then! You Decide! :roll: :wink:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=69&manu factory=1579&DEPA=0
Yes it really is Firewire!
They don't actually make them in 5.25" they make them in 3.5" but you can use a standard $2.00 3.5" to 5.25" converter if all you have is 5.25" drive bays.
Converter for $1.45 :)
http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MF-520B
robertwgross
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 17:40
Firewire card readers are nice, but where is the Firewire controller that allows it to attach to the motherboard? My understanding is that most good Firewire controllers are built into the motherboard, or else they are useless.
I'm not certain that the original poster established the existence of any such controller in his computer.
---Bob Gross---
timmyquest
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 22:16
Firewire card readers are nice, but where is the Firewire controller that allows it to attach to the motherboard? My understanding is that most good Firewire controllers are built into the motherboard, or else they are useless.
I'm not certain that the original poster established the existence of any such controller in his computer.
---Bob Gross---
*shrug* doesnt matter, i have two on my motherboard and only one is being used.
CyberDyneSystems
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 22:50
ROFLMAO... I just spit beer all over my keyboard! :shock:
timmyquest
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 00:16
ROFLMAO... I just spit beer all over my keyboard! :shock:
I must be missing something...
burkdog
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 02:05
I think that reader is for a 3.5" bay. He said he was looking for the bigger one. I've got 2 3.5 drive bays on both my boxes, so I could squeeze it in if I had to. Optionally, you can buy a little conversion kit (had to do that once) that will mount a 3.5" device inside the larger bay area.
I'm looking for a 5" internal pop-tart warmer. Not having any luck. It could be eide or usb, doesn't really matter. If anybody runs across one of those, let me know.
timmyquest
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 07:42
I've got 2 3.5 drive bays on both my boxes
Me too, mines in use
CyberDyneSystems
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 10:21
ROFLMAO... I just spit beer all over my keyboard! :shock:
I must be missing something...
You need to check your Personal measages,.. I explain my warped sense of humor there :)
jfretless
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 16:09
Just buy a USB 2.0 4 port hub and an external reader.... you can hook 4 devices up to 1 USB port in your machine....
USB 2 is a bit faster than Firewire anyway...
480 megabits per second (Mbps) for USB 2.0
400 Mbps for FireWire
I beg to differ. The theoretical max throughput maybe be higher, but with the additional overhead that USB 2.0 has, the sustained transfer rate is slower than firewire. I work for a memory company that makes FLASH. We have a lab with every reader imaginable, regardless of interface, and every manufacturer's cards. Firewire is just faster. The real world truth.
If you still aren't convinced, why does every "high end" DSLR include a firewire port, in particular, the 1D mark 2. So, people would have option to go slower?
Thanks.
John
timmyquest
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 22:18
If you still aren't convinced, why does every "high end" DSLR include a firewire port, in particular, the 1D mark 2. So, people would have option to go slower?
Good point, but that doesnt tell me why low end DSLR's dont have USB 2.0...which would make this thread a non issue ;)
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