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slejhamer
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 09:05
I was browsing B&H to see if they had pricing yet on the new 70-300 DO lens, when I came across this beauty:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=208272&is=REG

Click the image to enlarge - yes, that is a red stripe!

:shock:

:lol:

Tom W
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 09:11
WOW - and to think I might some day have spent over $1000 to get a white lens. According to the description, this lens is "great for all conditions".

The "AF" embossed on the zoom grip is a big plus. I wonder how long the waiting list is for this gem...

Avarond
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 09:49
Dunno about the waiting list but at least you get a 6 year warranty..heh!

Avarond
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 09:54
By the way Tom, where you located at in Tennessee, im in your neighboring state of Kentucky.

CyberDyneSystems
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 09:58
You know Minolta's latest "pro" lenses are white too,...


...big difference though,. the Minolta's are fantastic lenses that could give our Canon gear a solid run for the money.. and they have some cool features built in that no one else has (granted it might take a while to get used to them)

http://camera.minolta.ca/Minolta/MinoltaC.nsf/0/abe413a98ec16d1385256cd700261270?OpenDocument

http://camera.minolta.ca/Minolta/MinoltaC.nsf/5ff1544cf279673d8525693f0065392d/97b0d085a3b658b585256cd70024d0a7?OpenDocument

Tom W
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 10:23
You know Minolta's latest "pro" lenses are white too,...


...big difference though,. the Minolta's are fantastic lenses that could give our Canon gear a solid run for the money.. and they have some cool features built in that no one else has (granted it might take a while to get used to them)

http://camera.minolta.ca/Minolta/MinoltaC.nsf/0/abe413a98ec16d1385256cd700261270?OpenDocument

http://camera.minolta.ca/Minolta/MinoltaC.nsf/5ff1544cf279673d8525693f0065392d/97b0d085a3b658b585256cd70024d0a7?OpenDocument

Those could be some very nice lenses - too bad they only fit Minolta cameras.

As an aside, and not critical of the lens itself, I would think that they could have chosen a better term than "anomolous dispersion" for their LD glass. It soulds so diffuse, and that would seem to be the opposite of the impression that they might want to convey.

PacAce
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 10:38
Call me an L-snob but I'd rather have something that's made by Canon. However, due to my limited budget and the fact that I'm from the Heathkit generation, I've opted to get myself a REAL kit lens, or rather, lens kit. I have to put it together myself and paint it, but. hey, it's a real Canon product. :lol:

http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/design/process/camera_design/img/img_c1-eflens.jpg

Tom W
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 10:54
Call me an L-snob but I'd rather have something that's made by Canon. However, due to my limited budget and the fact that I'm from the Heathkit generation, I've opted to get myself a REAL kit lens, or rather, lens kit. I have to put it together myself and paint it, but. hey, it's a real Canon product. :lol:

http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/design/process/camera_design/img/img_c1-eflens.jpg

LOL!!! This is indeed a classic.

Might I suggest a cherry stain, followed by 3 very light coats of high-gloss polyurethane for weather protection.

If I had a lathe, I'd probably turn a few of those myself. Actually, I believe that these could be sold for profit.

CoolToolGuy
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 11:26
Call me an L-snob but I'd rather have something that's made by Canon. However, due to my limited budget and the fact that I'm from the Heathkit generation, I've opted to get myself a REAL kit lens, or rather, lens kit. I have to put it together myself and paint it, but. hey, it's a real Canon product. :lol:

http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/design/process/camera_design/img/img_c1-eflens.jpg

I, too, am from the 'Heathkit generation' (two stereo receivers, photo timer, couple other kits), and I wonder if such a kit lens would come with its own crude camera to help you check it out (like the built-in VOM in my AR-1500).

Let's see - aniline or pigment stain, I think it would be better if made of ash (so you can use it as a baseball bat as well), scraped not sanded... :roll:

Nah, Just give me the Canon factory version (just don't let Norm Abrams hear that!) :wink:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

neil_r
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 12:42
Might I suggest a cherry stain, followed by 3 very light coats of high-gloss polyurethane for weather protection.



Whatever you do don't paint it silver :roll:

N

Lisard
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 12:45
Excuse the amature, what "red stripe" means in lenses? I have an exactly same lens by Sigma, paid $60 for it (used). :?:

Belmondo
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 12:50
Call me an L-snob but I'd rather have something that's made by Canon. However, due to my limited budget and the fact that I'm from the Heathkit generation, I've opted to get myself a REAL kit lens, or rather, lens kit. I have to put it together myself and paint it, but. hey, it's a real Canon product. :lol:

Leo:
Now we know what the 'L' stands for.....Lathe.

That's really cute. How much would the lumber cost to build a 1200 mm prime?

fox1
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 13:06
I was browsing B&H to see if they had pricing yet on the new 70-300 DO lens, when I came across this beauty: :lol:

At least it's in stock... :roll:

Anyone found the Canon lens on sale anwhere. :?:

CyberDyneSystems
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 13:09
Excuse the amature, what "red stripe" means in lenses? I have an exactly same lens by Sigma, paid $60 for it (used). :?:

The "Red stripe" on a Canon lens means that the lens is part of Canon's very well made, but very expensive line of "Luxury" lenses or L lenses.

billhercus
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 13:26
Ahhhhhh ... the Heathkit generation. If only they would resurrect with Canon L kits.

By jove they were fun!!

PacAce
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 13:35
Ahhhhhh ... the Heathkit generation. If only they would resurrect with Canon L kits.

By jove they were fun!!

Or better yet, a kit form of the Canon 1DII. :mrgreen: :D

KennyG
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 16:41
Ahhhhhh ... the Heathkit generation. If only they would resurrect with Canon L kits.

By jove they were fun!!

Lets see who knows what the Heathkit DX100 was. I had one with the Sideband Adapter.

That's the trouble as you get older, short term memory is useless for important things and long term memory seems only to be important for useless things.

Tom W
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 16:45
Ahhhhhh ... the Heathkit generation. If only they would resurrect with Canon L kits.

By jove they were fun!!

Lets see who knows what the Heathkit DX100 was. I had one with the Sideband Adapter.

That's the trouble as you get older, short term memory is useless for important things and long term memory seems only to be important for useless things.

I'd have to hazard a guess that the DX-100 was a ham or short-wave radio receiver.

I had a Heathkit tube stereo amplifier - older than dirt, and it made a great heater. I didn't build it myself, but I bought it used for something on the order of $30 back in my teen years. It was already an early '60's relec at that time.

CoolToolGuy
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 16:59
Ahhhhhh ... the Heathkit generation. If only they would resurrect with Canon L kits.

By jove they were fun!!

Lets see who knows what the Heathkit DX100 was. I had one with the Sideband Adapter.

That's the trouble as you get older, short term memory is useless for important things and long term memory seems only to be important for useless things.

Sounds like a radio to me.

Ah, time to go off-topic and dust off some of that long-term memory for a useless, unrelated thing - but permit me.

I built my AR-1500 stereo receiver and I was quite happy with it. McIntosh used to go around with their 'clinic', where they would measure your existing amp/receiver and compare it to the McIntosh standard - in the hopes that you would see how 'bad' yours was, and run right out and buy a McIntosh. Well, my 'kit', which was rated at 70 watts per channel, measured 95 watts/channel RMS, and was still at or below the McIntosh line on the graph. Oops, can't sell me one :!:

Okay, enough for the trip down Geezer Lane. Back to digital photography. :) :D :lol:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

CyberDyneSystems
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 17:15
I was an Audio junky years ago...

My "stereo" is still just that, Stereo,. with a pair of the sweetest sounding Allison Acoustics speakers,. yep only two :shock: (well,. and I nice powered sub)

Tom W
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 17:18
I somehow morphed into surround, though I still primarily use mine as a stereo (with some fairly large, nice Infinity front speakers, and some small infinity rears). No need for a subwoofer at this juncture.

Nothing like putting a good movie on in surround, getting on the net with the laptop and surfing the B&H web site. Come to think of it, that's how I got my 10D. :D

CoolToolGuy
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 19:48
I used the AR-1500 as my home audio power source with a pair of Polk 7s until 1987, when CDs beckoned, and no good input on the Heathkit to handle them. Replaced the Heathkit with a Pioneer receiver with 'surround' capability, but delayed getting any rear speakers. Fast forward to 2003 and the DVD player, and by then the Pioneer was sadly deficient. Technology marches on. The home theater is cool, but I had to keep my turntable that plays vinyl. :wink:
The AR-29 that I built for my parents was in use until last year. They were both a lot of fun to build. :D
I guess automation, miniaturization and the Pacific rim helped claim Heathkit. Else, we might be building Heathkit PCs. :roll:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

kfong
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 20:03
I guess automation, miniaturization and the Pacific rim helped claim Heathkit. Else, we might be building Heathkit PCs. :roll:

Have Fun
Rick 8)
It's not the above, but Heath had abandon "kit" and its customers in its rush to jump into the PC bandwagon. Remember Zenith? Turned out the PC market is a cut-throat business and Heath got its throat cut.

Ken

KiheiMan
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 20:17
I don't know how PacAce made that lens, but it is AWESOME. And all this talk about HeathKit takes me back to my early days of Amateur Radio.

CQ CQ

Michael Eddy

PacAce
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 21:14
I don't know how PacAce made that lens, but it is AWESOME. And all this talk about HeathKit takes me back to my early days of Amateur Radio.

CQ CQ

Michael Eddy

I didn't really make that lens. It's a picture of Canon's EF 500L mockup made out of balsa which I saw at the Canon Museum. Here's the link to it if anybody's interested:

http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/design/process/camera_design/index.html

And, speaking of amateur radio, I used to be KA3DZR for a short while but I never went for my General or even a Tech class license so I lost it. Oh, well, it was just as well since I was more into photography than CQ'ing around the world from my basement.

KiheiMan
23rd of February 2004 (Mon), 21:28
Thank you for the link, I'm anxious to go explore. As for Ham radio, I'm still licensed, WA7YET, but I have not been active for years. I think my neighbors like it better that way.

Michael Eddy

timmyquest
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 00:20
I was browsing B&H to see if they had pricing yet on the new 70-300 DO lens, when I came across this beauty:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=208272&is=REG

Click the image to enlarge - yes, that is a red stripe!

:shock:

:lol:

Just looking at that lens made me queezy

Roy NN7DX
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 01:17
48 years as a ham and I'm "only" 59...
My gear is all pretty modern now but turned in the HeathKit SB220 and it's pair of Eimac 3-500Z's for a quiet Alpha that uses Russian mil-spec Svetlana tubes...

Just registered here yesterday... Ive been reading along for a while though...

Very 73,

Jesper
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 03:33
You know Minolta's latest "pro" lenses are white too,...


...big difference though,. the Minolta's are fantastic lenses that could give our Canon gear a solid run for the money.. and they have some cool features built in that no one else has (granted it might take a while to get used to them)

http://camera.minolta.ca/Minolta/MinoltaC.nsf/0/abe413a98ec16d1385256cd700261270?OpenDocument

http://camera.minolta.ca/Minolta/MinoltaC.nsf/5ff1544cf279673d8525693f0065392d/97b0d085a3b658b585256cd70024d0a7?OpenDocument

"supersonic-wave motor technology for quiet, smooth AF operation" - we call that USM (Ultra Sonic Motor)...

"Full-time DMF gives the photographer access to manual focus control at any time by simply turning the focusing ring" - we call that FTM (Full Time Manual) in Canon land...

sp00g3
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 07:43
By the way Tom, where you located at in Tennessee, im in your neighboring state of Kentucky.

Funny.. I'm in Kentucky too.

CyberDyneSystems
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 11:54
You know Minolta's latest "pro" lenses are white too,...


...big difference though,. the Minolta's are fantastic lenses that could give our Canon gear a solid run for the money.. and they have some cool features built in that no one else has (granted it might take a while to get used to them)

http://camera.minolta.ca/Minolta/MinoltaC.nsf/0/abe413a98ec16d1385256cd700261270?OpenDocument

http://camera.minolta.ca/Minolta/MinoltaC.nsf/5ff1544cf279673d8525693f0065392d/97b0d085a3b658b585256cd70024d0a7?OpenDocument

"supersonic-wave motor technology for quiet, smooth AF operation" - we call that USM (Ultra Sonic Motor)...

"Full-time DMF gives the photographer access to manual focus control at any time by simply turning the focusing ring" - we call that FTM (Full Time Manual) in Canon land...

I never said they weren't influenced by Canon,. in fact that was sort of my point,. they even went so far as to paint them white! :shock:

The added doohickeys that seem to be a strictly Minolta addition is the focus buttons on the front ring of the lenses... they would take getting used to ,. but I could see being able to use them to good advantage.

Minolta has allways made very good equipment ofr reasobale prices,. it is allways nice to see other manufacturers pushing into Canon/Ni*** territory. Competition is good! :)

I am still baffled though when anyone considering a full SLR system embarks on any path other than Canon or Ni*** ?

jazt
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 11:56
By the way Tom, where you located at in Tennessee, im in your neighboring state of Kentucky.

Funny.. I'm in Kentucky too.

I can't resist this comment/question.

I this a local thing?....You know....where you identify the neighboring state to the person in the neighboring state.

PacAce
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 12:04
By the way Tom, where you located at in Tennessee, im in your neighboring state of Kentucky.

Funny.. I'm in Kentucky too.

I can't resist this comment/question.

I this a local thing?....You know....where you identify the neighboring state to the person in the neighboring state.

No, it's a regional thing. :D

Hi, y'all, I'm from Pennsylvania and I'm a neighbor of Ohio which is a neighbor of Kentucky which is a neighbor of Tennessee. Anybody out there from Pennsylvania or Ohio?

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

KennyG
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 16:14
48 years as a ham and I'm "only" 59...
My gear is all pretty modern now but turned in the HeathKit SB220 and it's pair of Eimac 3-500Z's for a quiet Alpha that uses Russian mil-spec Svetlana tubes...

Just registered here yesterday... Ive been reading along for a while though...

Very 73,

Roy, a man after my own heart. Licensed as a G3 back in 67 just in time for the sunspot peak. Ah, the heady days of real communication.

I'm sat in front of shelves full of camera gear and benches full of Kenwood amateur radio gear. The latter hardly ever gets used and when it does it is still with the old Bencher paddle. For some reason ham radio, digital photography and the web are common bedfellows.

Long time since I said 73....

CoolToolGuy
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 16:30
Hi, y'all, I'm from Pennsylvania and I'm a neighbor of Ohio which is a neighbor of Kentucky which is a neighbor of Tennessee. Anybody out there from Pennsylvania or Ohio?



Well, it takes you three notes (states) to name that tune.

I'm from Maryland, which is a neighbor to Virginia, which is a neighbor to Tennessee. I can name it in two notes, plus I'm a neighbor to Pennsylvania, too :!: :roll:

Topic drift, topic drift, must try to return to topic... :shock:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

sp00g3
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 18:11
Hi, y'all, I'm from Pennsylvania and I'm a neighbor of Ohio which is a neighbor of Kentucky which is a neighbor of Tennessee. Anybody out there from Pennsylvania or Ohio?



Well, it takes you three notes (states) to name that tune.

I'm from Maryland, which is a neighbor to Virginia, which is a neighbor to Tennessee. I can name it in two notes, plus I'm a neighbor to Pennsylvania, too :!: :roll:

Topic drift, topic drift, must try to return to topic... :shock:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

Ha..

Well one time i lived in florida which neighbored georgia which neighbored tennessee which neighbored kentucky which neighbored ohio which neighbored pennsylvania.. wow.. that was a lot typing anyways folks, should I get the 70 -200 IS lense or the 28 - 135 IS lense?

slejhamer
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 19:25
anyways folks, should I get the 70 -200 IS lense or the 28 - 135 IS lense?

Neither! Get the one that defines the word "lense": The WHITE, RED-STRIPED PHOENIX with the big AF emblazoned on the zoom grip! Anything else is just a "lens."

Yes, folks, we're back on topic!

:twisted:

( And now, please, may this thread rest in peace... )

PacAce
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 19:29
Hi, y'all, I'm from Pennsylvania and I'm a neighbor of Ohio which is a neighbor of Kentucky which is a neighbor of Tennessee. Anybody out there from Pennsylvania or Ohio?



Well, it takes you three notes (states) to name that tune.

I'm from Maryland, which is a neighbor to Virginia, which is a neighbor to Tennessee. I can name it in two notes, plus I'm a neighbor to Pennsylvania, too :!: :roll:

Topic drift, topic drift, must try to return to topic... :shock:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

Ha..

Well one time i lived in florida which neighbored georgia which neighbored tennessee which neighbored kentucky which neighbored ohio which neighbored pennsylvania.. wow.. that was a lot typing anyways folks, should I get the 70 -200 IS lense or the 28 - 135 IS lense?

I guess the most obvious answer would be "get the 70-200 IS". However, it would be very irresponsible of me to give you such an advice without first inquiring what your intensions are for the lens? Obviously both has its purpose and I happen to have both of them so I wouldn't hesitate recommending either one. :)

KiheiMan
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 20:23
48 years as a ham and I'm "only" 59...
My gear is all pretty modern now but turned in the HeathKit SB220 and it's pair of Eimac 3-500Z's for a quiet Alpha that uses Russian mil-spec Svetlana tubes...
Very 73,

Boy, that brings back memories. I also had and SB220, 50' tower, Mosley Tri-Bander, etc, etc. I could go on an on, but better get back on topic.

73

Michael Eddy
Vancouver USA/Maui HI

theoldmoose
24th of February 2004 (Tue), 21:39
Ahhhhhh ... the Heathkit generation. If only they would resurrect with Canon L kits.

By jove they were fun!!

Lets see who knows what the Heathkit DX100 was. I had one with the Sideband Adapter.

That's the trouble as you get older, short term memory is useless for important things and long term memory seems only to be important for useless things.

I don't believe anyone has identified the DX100 yet. It was a transmitter. I believe it was capable of 100 watts input, and it was crystal controlled, for Novice CW use. I believe you could also use it on AM, for when you upgraded to General.

Been licensed since 1971, so I'm officially an OF. :lol:

Canuck
25th of February 2004 (Wed), 12:29
48 years as a ham and I'm "only" 59...
My gear is all pretty modern now but turned in the HeathKit SB220 and it's pair of Eimac 3-500Z's for a quiet Alpha that uses Russian mil-spec Svetlana tubes...

Just registered here yesterday... Ive been reading along for a while though...

Very 73,

Interesting we have some hams amung us. I am one of them too. I've had my US one for going on 10 years, and the British one for 2+ years. The reciprocal agreement allowed me to get the British one extremely easily. If US hams are interested in how to do it, please pm me. Otherwise, you can use your US call/M0 in England only if you're a General or higher which I am. I will also add I got my General in 2/99 so I am a 13 WPM General. The rest of the UK is a little weird. M0 become MW0 in Wales and I forget what in Scotland and Northern Ireland. I found it interesting that valves here are tubes in the US. There are other different words for stuff but I am drawing blanks now...

73!

Cheers from England,
Canuck

KennyG
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 08:50
I don't believe anyone has identified the DX100 yet. It was a transmitter. I believe it was capable of 100 watts input, and it was crystal controlled, for Novice CW use. I believe you could also use it on AM, for when you upgraded to General.

Been licensed since 1971, so I'm officially an OF. :lol:

It was a 160-10m VFO controlled. I had the SSB adapter (phase at that) and spent my first few months licensed working all States and getting my DXCC. I'm an OF too, but age doesn't matter that much as a photog (apart from hauling all the gear around).

I found this - my DX100 and SB10, taken in 68/69. Hey, we had focus and blow-out issues way back then. We have not advanced that much.

http://www.stiuk.dial.pipex.com/old-g3.jpg

KiheiMan
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 09:22
I found this - my DX100 and SB10, taken in 68/69. Hey, we had focus and blow-out issues way back then. We have not advanced that much.

Now that is a beautiful photo.

Michael Eddy
WA7YET