Here is another to ponder...

[Kenski]

I was just at my local high end camera shop yesterday and chatting with the guys there. I went to go put a 1ds in my hands to see how I like it because I have come across a few used ones at a real good price and was talking to them about what I was looking for in a camera really. I told them it would be a sandwich of a 30D and a 5D and somewhere in the middle of the two for price.

He then asked me if I had time... OF COURSE.... ;) Told me to wait till next week for a new announcement and I might be pretty happy.

Now, I know we all have heard rumors but I was thinking they wouldn't release anything till the PMA... He is convinced they are going to release the news of new cameras for the show coming up next week...

WHO KNOWS!

[fstop11.net]

Canon no longer attended the UK's Focus On Imaging convention in Febuary and I am 90% Convinced this is when Canon unveil the 40D and 1D(whatever) in their USA/CANADA convention (whever it is)

[The Duck]

2007 International CES (Consumer Electronics Show) is in Las Vegas January 8-11. As digital cameras have gone mainstream with consumers, more announcements than usual are expected...especially because this is the 40th anniversary of CES. Major announcements are normally held for PMA, but perhaps Canon wants to spread out announcements or get a jump on one or two to set the tone for their own 70th anniversary year.

[Sprout Crumble]

I wouldn't be surprised if Canon made a major announcement at all the shows this year. I fully expect 2007 to be a real busy year for Canon, especially as some of the bodies are now looking a little aged.
Hopefully so new lenses as well.

[jiggling_john]

I wouldn't be surprised if Canon made a major announcement at all the shows this year. I fully expect 2007 to be a real busy year for Canon, especially as some of the bodies are now looking a little aged.
Hopefully so new lenses as well.

I completely agree. There is 99.999% chance that every single dslr will be replaced with a new model in the next few months with the exception of the 400d which will probably be end of the year/start of next

I stick by my predictions of both 1d's being merged into one camera, new upgrade of the 5d and POSSIBLY another FF camera in the line up...

I really, really think canon are going to start heading for eventual full frame cameras all down the line. It's not a matter of expense any more, the yeilds for 5d sensors were massively better than predicted and its just not that expensive to produce the sensors any more so... why not, it's a logical step to take and has huge benefits.

[Sprout Crumble]

I don't believe they'll merge the 1D models. Nor do I believe that FF across the range is ever likely to happen, or is even desirable. For every benefit to FF there is at least one to APS-C.
FF will remain a niche. The market has already decided that APS-C is the new 35mm and the plethora of new lenses that fit only this format from all the makers is simply cementing this fact. Its good that FF is available as a choice but its hardly a panacea of positives.

[dufferin]

to me the big positive point with FF, is wide angle.
As I shoot almost only with that, a 24mm is three time cheaper than a 17-XXmm.
So I did the math, and going with a 5D and 24mm is just 300$can more expensive than going with a 30 (or 20 I don't remember) with a 17-XX mm for the same f stop.

[Sprout Crumble]

Fair point. As I've always said, theres a place for FF.

Don't understand you're comparison though. Even here in the rip-off UK a 30D and a top-end 17-55/2.8IS woud go for around £1250. A 5D and a 24/2.8 is at least £1750 and the 17-55 gives away nothing in IQ to the 24 EF.

[dufferin]

Fair point. As I've always said, theres a place for FF.

Don't understand you're comparison though. Even here in the rip-off UK a 30D and a top-end 17-55/2.8IS woud go for around £1250. A 5D and a 24/2.8 is at least £1750 and the 17-55 gives away nothing in IQ to the 24 EF.

two or three weeks ago, the difference was about 300$. I'm not talking about quality of the lens.
And I know that prices goes dnow on some products (around 250$ for some lenses).
But don't get me wrong it's still more expensive to go with 5D, but to me it worth it.

[jiggling_john]

I don't believe they'll merge the 1D models. Nor do I believe that FF across the range is ever likely to happen, or is even desirable. For every benefit to FF there is at least one to APS-C.
FF will remain a niche. The market has already decided that APS-C is the new 35mm and the plethora of new lenses that fit only this format from all the makers is simply cementing this fact. Its good that FF is available as a choice but its hardly a panacea of positives.

the "market" hasn't decided anything, its the fact that most people buying crop cameras dont actually realise what difference it makes to their lens/body combination. Most people dont care.

The money invested in full frame means it will trickle down, there's absolutley no reason why it shouldnt or wont. Maximum return for your investment, plus canons lenses are all full frame (apart from ef-s obviously) so its hardly like they're giving themselves a hard time. Plus the benefits of far larger/clearer viewfinder etc etc, its inevitable. I'm not saying its gonna happen tomorrow, but it will.

[Rokkorfan]

The money invested in full frame means it will trickle down, there's absolutley no reason why it shouldnt or wont. Maximum return for your investment, plus canons lenses are all full frame (apart from ef-s obviously) so its hardly like they're giving themselves a hard time. Plus the benefits of far larger/clearer viewfinder etc etc, its inevitable. I'm not saying its gonna happen tomorrow, but it will.

No, it won't happen to all cameras, if only because smaller sensors also enable smaller body size (something popular to a lot of people). If the only DSLRs were the size of the 5D there would be a lot fewer bought for that reason alone. Additionally, with the increased cost, greater dust problems, and inability to implement in-body IS (which may happen, at least in the 1.6x crop bodies) I consider that the 1.6x format is here to stay. This is backed up by Canon's announcements.