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Ruffio
6th of January 2007 (Sat), 23:56
Ok, I'm contemplating my next body, something dedicated to wildlife. What is the difference between the old Mark II and the Mark IIN?

How do they take to shooting at 1600 and 3200 ISO? I'm familiar with the results of the 5D for comparison. Thanks.

coreypolis
6th of January 2007 (Sat), 23:57
larger LCD
Picture styles and changes to AA filter for better incamera proccessing of jpegs
ability to write to CF and SD cards together (ie RAW to CF and jpeg to SD)

I'm sure theres a few other little things too


the 1d2 was the best at high iso until the 5d. with proper exposure and/or noise reduction software iso 3200 can look amazing

coreypolis
7th of January 2007 (Sun), 02:16
ISO 3200 image from last night



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/viperx27/DR%20Wedding/A14_filtered.jpg

Ruffio
8th of January 2007 (Mon), 05:45
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it!

Jonathan Consiglio
8th of January 2007 (Mon), 08:24
Corey, that's a beautiful image.. I have a 5D and 20D, and I'll tell you at 3200 on my 5, my images are a little noisier sometimes.. I have Noise Ninja, but I'd rather not use it unless I have to.. How did you shoot that... I saw the Exif (I have that exif viewer where you just right click on the image) and it said software unknown, and it didn't say anyting about Exposure Compensation... Did you shoot RAW or JPG, and was there much post processing? Thanks..

harryb49
8th of January 2007 (Mon), 08:49
I'd like to hear more about your lighting. Did you have a flash set up high and to the bride's right?

coreypolis
8th of January 2007 (Mon), 12:53
Corey, that's a beautiful image.. I have a 5D and 20D, and I'll tell you at 3200 on my 5, my images are a little noisier sometimes.. I have Noise Ninja, but I'd rather not use it unless I have to.. How did you shoot that... I saw the Exif (I have that exif viewer where you just right click on the image) and it said software unknown, and it didn't say anyting about Exposure Compensation... Did you shoot RAW or JPG, and was there much post processing? Thanks..


This was RAW and did have a bit of noise reduction to it. I have some that are similar with no noise reduction. I never use exposure compensation, just check the histogram to get the best possible exposure


I'd like to hear more about your lighting. Did you have a flash set up high and to the bride's right?
natural light only. I was a guest not the "pro", not that I would have used flash during the ceremony anyway. This was a 70-200 from my seat

Permagrin
8th of January 2007 (Mon), 12:56
Corey, that's a beautiful image.. I have a 5D and 20D, and I'll tell you at 3200 on my 5, my images are a little noisier sometimes.. I have Noise Ninja, but I'd rather not use it unless I have to.. How did you shoot that... I saw the Exif (I have that exif viewer where you just right click on the image) and it said software unknown, and it didn't say anyting about Exposure Compensation... Did you shoot RAW or JPG, and was there much post processing? Thanks..

I've noticed that the 5D seems to underexpose often...and the images will be a bit noiser when that happens...mine practically lives on +2/3 or +1 exposure comp....when I started doing that, no probs whatsoever.

convergent
8th of January 2007 (Mon), 14:47
I don't think there is any difference in the AA filter on the N, never heard that one before. I have both N and non-N 1DMk2s, and the image quality is identical as far as I can tell. The only difference is Picture Styles, which could be handy if you are trying to align color amongst different Canon EOS bodies... because the 20D and 1DMk2 had very different default colors.

One feature that wasn't mentioned which I find pretty valuable is the one click zoom to focus point. It is very useful when doing portrait work when you have the focus point off centered to something on the face, and you want to do a quick check on focus after the shot. I use that quite a bit.

There have been rumor that the AF in the N is better than the non-N, particularly for things like tracking action sports (or wildlife should be the same). While Canon has never confirmed this, and while I have no proof, I believe my Ns do AF better for action than my non-Ns. Just a gut feel since its not provable. There is a good Sportsshooter article that mentions this, from an NFL photographer.

I believe the 5D is a little better at high ISO, however being a full frame sensor with more pixels, this could be a consequence of noise diminishing when you have more compression to get to the final image size than with the 1DMk2N. I find that all of my EOS bodies are pretty close on noise and if I expose well, they are very clean... if I under expose, I see a little noise.

Ruffio
9th of January 2007 (Tue), 03:37
Yesterday, I went to my local shop to check out the 1D2N. I took my 1-4 and 1.4x extender. I was most impressed by speed of the auto focus.

I'm sure I will be picking up a Mark II soon. Thanks for everyone's help.

coreypolis
9th of January 2007 (Tue), 13:24
Yesterday, I went to my local shop to check out the 1D2N. I took my 1-4 and 1.4x extender. I was most impressed by speed of the auto focus.

I'm sure I will be picking up a Mark II soon. Thanks for everyone's help.
100-400 or 50mm 1.4?

Ruffio
9th of January 2007 (Tue), 15:20
100-400 or 50mm 1.4?

Sorry. That was my 100-400 plus the 1.4x extender. :)

coreypolis
9th of January 2007 (Tue), 15:47
Sorry. That was my 100-400 plus the 1.4x extender. :)
ah well any body will struggle with that, and most consumers bodies will not even be able to AF on the long end as its a min aperature of f/8. Slap on some 2.8 glass and be wowed.

Ruffio
9th of January 2007 (Tue), 21:12
ah well any body will struggle with that, and most consumers bodies will not even be able to AF on the long end as its a min aperature of f/8. Slap on some 2.8 glass and be wowed.

I think you misread. I WAS impressed. On purpose, I took a difficult combination to see how it would do. That being said, it is something I will be using often for wildlife.