Is a 16-35 w-i-d-e enough?

[SWPhotoImaging]

Opinions wanted (no shortage here, eh?)

On a 10D, what would be considered the equivalent of a true wide-angle lens on a full-frame camera? Is the 16mm end of the 16-35f2.8L wide enough for interiors, or should I look into the 14mm prime from Sigma (or Canon?), or the 12-24 Sigma? I'm leaning toward the low-light capabilities of the f2.8's such as the 16-35 and the 14mm for landscape work, but know I'd use a smaller aperature for more DOF on most shots anyway, particularly interior shots.

What I decide in the way of a good wide-angle lens will determine whether I have enough left for my 100-400-IS-L too . . . . if I blow it all on the wide one, I have to wait longer for the long one.

Your input is appreciated, particularly from those of you with w-i-d-e lenses on 10D's.

[PacAce]

Opinions wanted (no shortage here, eh?)

On a 10D, what would be considered the equivalent of a true wide-angle lens on a full-frame camera? Is the 16mm end of the 16-35f2.8L wide enough for interiors, or should I look into the 14mm prime from Sigma (or Canon?), or the 12-24 Sigma? I'm leaning toward the low-light capabilities of the f2.8's such as the 16-35 and the 14mm for landscape work, but know I'd use a smaller aperature for more DOF on most shots anyway, particularly interior shots.

What I decide in the way of a good wide-angle lens will determine whether I have enough left for my 100-400-IS-L too . . . . if I blow it all on the wide one, I have to wait longer for the long one.

Your input is appreciated, particularly from those of you with w-i-d-e lenses on 10D's.

Well, let me throw a question back at you. What would you consider to be wide enough for a 35mm film camera. Once you figure that out, then you shouldn't have any problems picking the right lens for the 10D.

For me, personally, 17 is wide enough for my needs, for shooting indoors parties and gatherings. Maybe you're going to need something even wider if you're going to be shooting a large interior.

And if you're going to be shooting with a flash or without people in the shot, a camera mounted on a tripod may allow you to use a lens which is slower but more affordable than the 2.8. You can then get your 100-400 as well. :D

[scottbergerphoto]

The Canon 16-35 2.8L is a great lens for landscapes. I use it all the time. Here is an example:
http://www.pbase.com/image/20018460.jpg
There is a review of it at: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/16-35.shtml
Scott

[SWPhotoImaging]

That's a beauty, Scott. Wonderful DOF and clarity.

PacAce, it's actually the smaller interior spaces that are more challenging for me with a "not-wide-enough" lens, as you don't have the room to back up or get another angle on things.

I shoot a lot of home interiors for my wife's interior decorating business, and found that with film, a 22-24mm was just about perfect, so I'm guessing that I'd need to get down in the range of 14-15mm to equal that on a 10D.

The wide-end of the 28-105mm on my 10D (more like 44 with the crop factor?), is obviously much too long for this work.

If there was a place to rent lenses in my area, I'd get a couple to try out first.

[Mills]

I think it is a great lens. No problems inside for me.

[PacAce]

I just tried shooting my 16 1/2 x 13 sala with my 17mm and all I could accomodate were two walls (the full length of the shorter wall and 2/3 of the longer wall) and a corner with a loveseat on the shorter wall, a sofa on the longer wall and a center table. So you probably will need something like a 14mm or wider to get more of a similar sized room.

Good luck with your search.

[iwatkins]

Love my Sigma 12-24mm, but you know that anyway I think Mike. Would also leave you more cash for the 100-400 :twisted:

Cheers

Ian

[GenEOS]

A 16 @ 1.6x is 25.6, still pretty wide, although not ultra-wide.
The build quality & glass quality of the 16-35 is a factor.
On film bodies I love the 16mm setting for working around crowds of people and other photogs. You could basically stick that camera and lens anywhere and click away to get nice usable pics. At 25.6 you reduce the field it covers. The 12mm would give you a little more...
For landscale work, I would think the 25.6 would be enough, but that depends on your style. On film I used a 24.. a lot. So for me, the 16-35 would be fine.

[SWPhotoImaging]

iwatkins:

Thanks for replying to my inquiry on about wide angle lenses on 10D's. I would be very interested in seeing some work from a Sigma 12-24, as I haven't been able to get my hands on one to appreciate it's abilities and coverage.

If you could point me to any pics you might have posted which were shot with this lens, I'd be very appreciative.

Thanks,

[Canuck]

iwatkins:

Thanks for replying to my inquiry on about wide angle lenses on 10D's. I would be very interested in seeing some work from a Sigma 12-24, as I haven't been able to get my hands on one to appreciate it's abilities and coverage.

If you could point me to any pics you might have posted which were shot with this lens, I'd be very appreciative.

Thanks,

Just an FYI, I had problems with distortion at 16mm taking pics of Colchester Castle. It it was really close range, like 200 ft though. I have that pic on the other computer and it is too late to sort tonite.

Cheers from England,
Canuck

[iwatkins]

iwatkins:

Thanks for replying to my inquiry on about wide angle lenses on 10D's. I would be very interested in seeing some work from a Sigma 12-24, as I haven't been able to get my hands on one to appreciate it's abilities and coverage.

If you could point me to any pics you might have posted which were shot with this lens, I'd be very appreciative.

Thanks,

Some Links:

Church Photos using Sigma 12-24mm
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23832&highlight=

More Church Photos using Sigma 12-24mm
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=25512&highlight=

Comparison of "wide" between 12mm and 17mm
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23178&highlight=

Other links, not my shots:
http://www.pbase.com/fengtianrui/1224mm_tests

Cheers

Ian

[SWPhotoImaging]

iwatkins:

Thank you very much for the links. These sold me on the need for a 12mm lens. I may also want a 16-35, but really NEED the 12mm for those small-space interior shots and architectural shots.

Thanks again