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Pekka
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 11:43
Today I got a thorough look on pre-production 1D mark II, fitted with Canon EF 70-300 f/4.5-F5.6 DO IS USM and Canon EF 28-300 f/3.5-F5.6 L IS USM lenses. I also had a brief look of PowerShot Pro1 and PowerShot S1 IS. No images were allowed to be stored or copied on my cards.

What can I say: 1D Mark II is wonderful. It's responsive, AF is excellent and it's build like a waterproof tank. It will make your life as photographer easier in many ways.

It was somewhat heavier than 10D - but the weight was well balanced and it felt comfortable after a while.

The new 28-300 L was about the same size and weight than 70-200 f/2.8 and it balanced also well. I liked a lot how wide range of photos one lens could capture - quality looked very good (of course could not check them on computer), slight barrel distorion on wide end otherwise very clean looking images. I did not like the pump zoom method, after 70-200 that felt very clumsy and inaccurate - but 100-400L owners can tell if one can get used to it. Based on my short experience with it I'm sure this lens will sell a lot.

1D mark II shutter responsed to a hint of touch. I had to put it in single shot mode because I took about 4 shots with each 10D-equivalent shutter press :) Too bad I was unable to test the mirror dampening function because you needed to set it into personal functions via computer - the shutter sound was to me not as harsh as 1D - darker.

What I liked a lot was how AF (when using all points) was able to hold the focus even when I composed to very much side of frame (45-area AF) - it always preferred closer subject to be in focus and locking was instant. What was also cool: focus points used were shown in review after the shot.

I roughly tested viewfinder coverage and I think it was really 100% - exact composing was easy, viewfinder was big and bright. I liked the way viewfinder info text was not distracting from main image - the fonts were small (but clear) and not directly "attached" to main image (some space between).

I shot some "wide dynamic" subjects (person indoor backlit by window, unevenly lit cafe bar) and based on that the dynamic range can be described as "enough". Definitely more than 10D.

Auto white balance was in a word perfect. I took shots in a cafe, half artifical, half ambient light, backlit etc. and I never had a feeling that I wanted to change something in resulted colors. At last!

Metering was really accurate - again one thing which makes daily life easy. in P mode you could just shoot and get good exposures all day long. Useful touches like spot metering with 3 measure lock points (you show hi, mid, low light and it shows you exposure latitude) will need some training for sure.

I am not familiar with 1-series control system, and it first seemd odd that you e.g. needed to press two buttons to change ISO via wheel. But I noticed I could hold them both down with one finger, too :) The control system is so different to 10D it will take some days to get familiar with all settings and methods.

Overall the machine just works and works. I do not hesitate for a moment to put all that money into it. It buys you peace of mind about technical issues and you can concentrate on creating.

Can't wait to get one.

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Pro 1 was a nice tiny thing, L lens and all. Well built - lots of controls added in small body space. The lens zoom was handled by manual zoom ring which is a welcome improvement, but it still worked in digital steps (i.e. not smooth). Easy to operate, still very slow LCD (after 1D mark II testing anything feels slow). I'm sure it will gain lots of friends and it seems like a good deal for a high quality portable and unobtrusive digital camera - looks like a very good travel camera.

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S1 IS seemed like a perfect candid camera or beach cam, whatever suits you. Viewfinder was also LCD (odd looking but usable) and zoom was really fast. More plastic feel than Pro 1.

CyberDyneSystems
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 12:12
More and more I am intrigued...
I have only held a 1D/1V,.. never had the opotunity to even shoot one in a store..

I have to admit,. when I read the 1D (and subsequntly 1DMkII) info I am a little intimidated by all the adjustments and functions that they offer.

But then again, the 10D intimidated me too...
It took several months of use to feel 100% comfortabe with the 10D,..(well 90% perhaps digitlas aren't around long enough for 100% familiarity)

I expect even with what I have learned from the 10D,. the MkII being such a complex instrument,. it may take at least equally as long, probably longer to get to a point where I am taking full advantage of all it has to offer,. and the camera becomes a fluid tool,. as opposed to a daunting hurdle... :?

I am eagre for the challenge :mrgreen:

The 28-300mm.... either this lens will be an astounding succes or a very expensive oddity. And huge? I had no idea it was on the scale of the 70-200mm f/2.8.. whoa!

Will Canon be able to pull off the dream of one lens with such a lens that actually delivers the quality that none of the others can?

neil_r
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 12:25
Oh dear, I am only just getting used to the controls on the D60 after the 1V and now I have to go back to the old ways….. Am I complaining, not at all !!!!!

Mind you all this waiting is not good for you

N

GenEOS
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 13:04
Pekka, dang it, I wish you would stop it!!!! :lol: :lol:
I am sold already, now I am biting my teeth waiting for Canon to start spitting them out of Japan. :wink:

I would love to get my hands on one for a few minutes to see what I am in for.... :shock: :shock: :shock:

You dawg...
:D

CyberDyneSystems
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 13:07
Pekka, dang it, I wish you would stop it!!!! :lol: :lol:
I am sold already, now I am biting my teeth waiting for Canon to start spitting them out of Japan. :wink:

I would love to get my hands on one for a few minutes to see what I am in for.... :shock: :shock: :shock:

You dawg...
:D

I would say,. just check out the old 1D at a local vendor as they are about 90% similar....

But seeing as how they don't seem to be available either.. thats no help at all! :(

IanD
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 13:20
Awww jeez like I really needed to hear how good the MKII is. There is no way I'm going to bow to temptation. I do not need it....I do not want it....I really need it....I really want it :lol: :lol:
The only solution I can think of is the wear ear plugs when I'm on this forum. Hear no evil, spend no money :mrgreen:

Vegas Poboy
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 13:53
Recently here in Las Vegas the WPPI had of course Canon showing off thier new toy MarK II and they printed an 20 x 40 poster print unedited from the Mark II and it was a great print all from a Jpeg file.

Great & Fast Camera I'll keep attending photo shows and play with it but it will not hit my camera bag for a long time. :cry:

PacAce
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 13:59
Awww jeez like I really needed to hear how good the MKII is. There is no way I'm going to bow to temptation. I do not need it....I do not want it....I really need it....I really want it :lol: :lol:
The only solution I can think of is the wear ear plugs when I'm on this forum. Hear no evil, spend no money :mrgreen:

I think what you really need is a blind so that you can't READ the forum posts about the 1DII. I'd loan you mine but I'm using it right now. Maybe Gitzo can loan you his. :D

samdring
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 14:08
The only solution I can think of is the wear ear plugs when I'm on this forum. Hear no evil, spend no money :mrgreen:

Dont come to Derbyshire - my dog has a hair lip and he can MkII

Canuck
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 18:03
This is making me want to get one and really step onto the plate, but the $4500 price tag is what is holding me back. Oh, the humanity! I must find a way to get one.

defordphoto
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 19:28
Pekka: Nice report. I know this camera will be all we hoped for and more. Yes, it's expensive but I see this being my main camera for at least the next 5 years.

I can hardly wait...tap...tap...tap...tap...tap...

:)

IanD
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 19:40
The only solution I can think of is the wear ear plugs when I'm on this forum. Hear no evil, spend no money :mrgreen:

Dont come to Derbyshire - my dog has a hair lip and he can MkII
Sam,
That is so bad that I love it :!: :lol:

IanD
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 19:42
Awww jeez like I really needed to hear how good the MKII is. There is no way I'm going to bow to temptation. I do not need it....I do not want it....I really need it....I really want it :lol: :lol:
The only solution I can think of is the wear ear plugs when I'm on this forum. Hear no evil, spend no money :mrgreen:

I think what you really need is a blind so that you can't READ the forum posts about the 1DII. I'd loan you mine but I'm using it right now. Maybe Gitzo can loan you his. :D
So that is my problem. But if I can't see the screen then how can I know that's happening??????

Mills
26th of February 2004 (Thu), 20:35
What I wouldn't give for my very own TIME MACHINE!