Brisbane POTN: General Ramblings Thread [Archive] - Page 12

wakko

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 09:40

heheheh

that's ok... I'll try break it down a bit...

When you apply for hosting with a domain name they give you (effectively) the following;

1. Domain Name
2. Space and quote to store files (web page)
3. Some form of email system (redirection or hosting)
4. control of all of that.

What GoDaddy would've given you (with sitebuilder) would've been:

1. Domain Name
2. Space to host (where you uploaded your web page)
3. Not sure how GoDaddy does this, but they must if they host your domain, forward it's emails to some address (probably your personal one)... i.e. *@yourdomain.com)
4. Sitebuilder access, and then effectively publishing via frontpage, or FTP (file transfer protocol).

What I can provide you, is all except the domain registration. I'm happy to step you through the basics over the phone if you like (can give you my mobile or whatever, and/or call you back so you don't have to pay).

What you'd do is:

1. Register domain name and 'park' it.
2. I'll set up your domain info into my vps (virtual private server).
3. Set up basic domain name services and hosting logins.
4. Step you through creating a custom name server which would point to my server.
5. Teach you to log into the server to 'publish' your files.
6. Show you how to log in, and set up email boxes etc for *@yourdomain.com

Pretty basic stuff really... and you can have it free for your playing around.

Once you're ready to go commercial, then that's when you have to decide whether you want to pay someone else to host (in which case, we just redirect your name servers etc with GoDaddy), or you pay me a nominal fee to continue hosting it (with invoice etc of course).

In the interim, you can continue to use it free, for as long as you like, as long as you don't generate heaps of traffic (which you won't for private photo hosting etc).

Did that help? :| If not, I can PM you my mobile and we can have a chat (i suck at describing while typing as I tend to ramble) :)

<endramble>

:)

wakko

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 09:41

How cool, just got an e-mail from godaddy saying my money has been refunded. :D

Oh that's great. I have all my .com/.org etc emails registered with GoDaddy :) Just have my own server so don't need to host it there ;)

-Pleiades-

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 09:41

Rightio, well I've been having a play in photoshop and I've been trying to come up with some business card designs.

Please let me know what you REALLY think. These two designs I'm thinking are just a front and back design for one card.

Is it too hard on the eyes, not enough info, too much, or just crap?

172220

172221

-Pleiades-

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 09:47

You did help heaps Feng, I understood what you wrote!

I just don't want you going to any trouble for me and I don't want to be a hassle.

The reason why I'm doing the web page and business cards at the moment is the lady who bought my business runs a dog school and shows her dogs in the different comps around the place. She wants me to come to dog school and the comps then take photos of the dogs then sell them to people.

She said she's hired a prof photog in the past, but she said I'm welcome to come along whenever I want! Hence the reason for the webpage, cards and new camera gear.

I figure once I'm there, take photos of peoples dogs, hand them the card, they look on the webiste and order some prints.....

Good in theory, wonder how it'd be in practice!

wakko

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 09:52

The card looks great....

My little tip is... (and take it how you want)... leave one side with some white space (maybe the back?) so people can write somewhere if they want... if you dont' want that, then it's fantastic the way it is.

It's not hassle, and you're welcome to it. For the mean time while you're learning the ropes, you're more than welcome, and if I didn't want to help out, I wouldn't have offered. I don't yes or no ;)... after a couple of weeks, when you've learnt the ropes, then you can always transfer off to another hosting provider... even back to GoDaddy.

-Pleiades-

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 09:55

Ahhh...I dunno....

I just had a closer look at the godaddy invoice and the refunded part (most) of my money. What they didn't refund was the domain registration and some kind of photo filer I also signed up for.

Maybe I should just stick with godaddy?

How does the economy or deluxe plan look at godaddy? https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/hosting/shared.asp?app%5Fhdr=&ci=5652

Is that what I want/need? :S

wakko

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 10:06

mmm tough call there... both are so cheap.

in my experience, 5G is hard to fill with just photos set up for the web.

250G traffic is a lot, but when you go commercial.... mmmm even then... if you only plan to do the one site, and stuff from there, then even the economy plan is enough.

The deluxe does offer 'photo galleries' whatever that difference is :|

Not too sure to be honest ;)

-Pleiades-

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 10:07

I think i'll just go the economy plan and I *think* I can always upgrade from there

Greg_C

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 16:23

Hi Kinnon, from memory, the best my site every did traffic wise was about 10G. This was when the 30D came out and I had some of the first shots available. Most of my traffic is from links here on POTN, and usually never goes past about 3G. I only have s very small number of visitors to my gallery. I only have about 120M of storage and I'm getting close to that limit now.

Mind you, at this stage my site is not for business, just pleasure. I can recommend the Gallery software my site uses. It is called Coppermine and is dead easy to install and use.

-Pleiades-

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 20:49

Greg_C

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 21:05

Cheers Greg. I'm not expecting a huge number of visitors...yet!

Album was my next question. Tim on the wedding forum recommended JAlbum, and it's free. What about Coppermine, is that free? Did a quick google of it and couldn't find any prices on their page, must be a good sign!
Yep, free, free, free.... Heaps of themes that are easy to apply also.

Came in a kit that could be installled from the admin part of my web page.
There were these three:-
4Images gallery
Coppermine
Gallery

The web management tool called Fanstaico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastico_%28web_hosting%29) is used to installl it and all of this is done access through cPanel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPanel) - the Control Panle Module.

I don't know what GoDaddy offer in regards to this, or how Feng's VPS does it. A lot will depend on the operating system the server is running.

wakko

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 22:41

I quite like coppermine and jalbum.

not 100% how they are administered (thought jalbum just had a webinterface once installed). I can install either for you to play with if you like. again... play play is good for free... free stuff is win ;) hehehe

-Pleiades-

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 22:47

Geez, if only I knew what I was getting myself into with all the web business.... It's so confusing!

I sorted out godaddy last night so there is no longer an ugly advertising banner above my site. I've just downloaded jalbum and I'll do the same with coppermine and which ever is easiest to play with I'll use.

Then Feng (or Greg) you may have some questions come your way like how I upload it and attach it to my site..... :S

PeacePlanet

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 23:45

Greg_C

13th of May 2007 (Sun), 23:48

Macro Crazy today, dunno why?:wink::p

Bees (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=319180)
Caterpillar (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=319114)
Crab Spider (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=319103)

wakko

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 00:27

@ Kinnon: learning is all fun :)
@ Alexson: heh... yeah... let someone else figure it out first ;) that's what I do ;)
@ Greg: why aren't you at work? get back to work :)

Greg_C

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 00:44

@ Greg: why aren't you at work? get back to work :)
Rostered day off:p:p:p. Every second Monday:p:p:p

Big weekend so I didn't go to work and do overtime on my RDO.

wakko

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 00:46

oh what!!! :) that's just not fair!!

now.. with this job as an engineer at energex... what prior experience do we need? :D hahaha

Meaty0

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 01:09

Hi again everyone. Phew! It's hard to keep up with you guys. Kinnon. I like your card as is, but if you think wedding photography is where your income will mostly come from, perhaps think about putting a bridal photo on the card...you know...of an actual bride or bride/groom combination. Perhaps do what Feng said and put a nice portrait fading off into blank space on the back to allow room for clients to write. I'm looking forward to seeing some of your wedding shots...you brave person. :-D

Greg_C

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 01:12

oh what!!! :) that's just not fair!!

now.. with this job as an engineer at energex... what prior experience do we need? :D hahaha

Shhhh! I'm not actually an Engineer .... Proper term is an Engineering Associate as I have an Associate Diploma + Trade, not a B.Eng. I don't really care what I'm called, but some of the Engineers used to get upset when we were called Engineers.:p No value in me doing a B.Eng as I can earn the same money as some of our Engineers. Trouble is, I've pretty much reached the ceiling as far as things go. I could possibly go higher but the vast majority of positions above me are Management (yuck!) and not Technical. That's the thing with a B.Eng, it would take 6 years to do part time and then you'd move into Management and I'm more of a Technical person.

We are always looking for people in our design office. :D;) Trouble is the pay is a little s*cky down in lower pay scales. We have had quite a few with Electronics Degrees come and work in our area as CAD operators, usually to get a foot in the door. A lot of the guys are doing lots of overtime to make up for it, but it kinda kills your home life.

Meaty0

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 01:13

I posted another image I took today HERE (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3201785#post3201785) . Since this hotel charges $30 each time I hook my little laptop to their internet (what a rip-off...or "reep orf" as the locals say:D ) I won't be visiting again until I get back...but safe to say, I have got some "merit winning" shots already. Will post a few then. I suppose this thread will have increased by another 50 pages by then:D

wakko

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 01:40

@ Greg: Yeah I know what you mean... I got a B.Eng (sorta) but I don't use it... IT is my hobby hahaha :)

"reep orf" as the locals say:D

I thought aussie's replaced the i with e (kem, rep off)... nz'ers are i with a u (supposidly) fush and chups, rup off etc ;)

F

Meaty0

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 02:13

@ Greg: Yeah I know what you mean... I got a B.Eng (sorta) but I don't use it... IT is my hobby hahaha :)

I thought aussie's replaced the i with e (kem, rep off)... nz'ers are i with a u (supposidly) fush and chups, rup off etc ;)

F

No...here in the "deep south" (south island) New Zealander's replace an "e" with an "i" as evidenced by my conversation today with a B&B owner who proudly announced he was going to "restore his dick to its former glory" and was off to the "hard"ware store to get supplies to achieve this:D He seemed perplexed as to why I found this so amusing.

wakko

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 02:19

AHAHAHHA :)

nice one...

yeah i's with u's, and e's with i's :D hahahah i before e except after c? :D

Greg_C

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 02:20

No...here in the "deep south" (south island) New Zealander's replace an "e" with an "i" as evidenced by my conversation today with a B&B owner who proudly announced he was going to "restore his dick to its former glory" and was off to the "hard"ware store to get supplies to achieve this:D He seemed perplexed as to why I found this so amusing.

Was it a sux minute drive down the road?;)

wakko

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 02:28

yis ut was a sux munute drive down the road ;)

but definitely lol @ restore his dick to former glory :D HAHAHAH

PeacePlanet

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 03:13

a what with what? .... so how do they pronounce the real thang? lol

i thiunk i have enuf trouble with aussie lang now nzer .... hmmm

i kinda like the accent on the ad thingy lol

-Pleiades-

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 06:21

You seem to be having lots of fun ... :D

Fun...is that what you call it :P

I'll get there, and I'll be the better for learning it all.

Would have loved to have paid someone to do it for me, but it's also good to have some of that knowledge (all be it tiny) to be able to do it on my own.

-Pleiades-

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 06:34

Kinnon. I like your card as is, but if you think wedding photography is where your income will mostly come from, perhaps think about putting a bridal photo on the card...you know...of an actual bride or bride/groom combination. Perhaps do what Feng said and put a nice portrait fading off into blank space on the back to allow room for clients to write. I'm looking forward to seeing some of your wedding shots...you brave person. :-D

Cheers Paul. No weddings in the near future. Once I get a job and know what kind of roster I will have I'm going to send an e-mail around to the local wedding photogs and see if I can go as second shooter with them and gain some experience from it before I jump in the deep end.

So at the momet my cards aren't really targeted at wedding photography. I'm not even sure if I'll keep it on there because if I do hand out the cards and someone comes up to me and says "my son is getting married in a few months time, can you shoot his wedding" I will have no idea what to do or say.

The cards are just mainly for the dog school and shows, but also a generic kinda thing. I'll probably get about 500 printed up and when I finally do get into wedding photography I'll have a dedicated business card (and even website) for it with bridal pictures on it ;)

Kelsey-Lee

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 07:42

... Gosh, that moved quickly ...

Once I get a job I hope to buy a domain and set-up a proper website, but for now I'll just play around.

Haha, I love kiwi accents, they're so funny at the most inappropriate of times. My friend hates being called Jessica/Jess and she makes us pronounce it Jussaca/Juss.

Carjo

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 09:42

Woohoo... I'm now a "financial member" of BCG. :D I'll take some prints to the digital meeting for John Lomas (and co) to grade... what are the chances I'll know of my grade before I leave that night?

Speaking of grades, do you know what yours is yet, Kelsey?

wakko

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 09:55

@ Kelsey: If you like, I can set you up a subdomain to play? Up to you.

catsith

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 16:06

kinnon, will you want to do portrait work at all? i am just thinking a portrait shot in there?

-Pleiades-

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 19:03

A portrait shot in where Tina?

Looking to do portrait though. I'm trying to round aaron up so I can do some shots of him, and also a couple of friends just so I can put it on the website as an example of my work.

Just waiting till my new lenses come in to do it.

Nick C.

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 19:09

I think Tina means a portrait shot on the card?
I like the design too, BTW. Though I'm not too sure about the moon on there.

-Pleiades-

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 19:29

Ahhk, I doubt aaron or any of my friends will want to be on my business card.....

What aren't you too sure about the moon Nick? Just a crappy image or looks out of place? I have some more nice flower ones I was going to use, but then the ring looked out of place, or should I just go all flowers?

wakko

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 19:47

Hi Kinnon.

Who are you mainly targeting with these cards? Weddings? Portraiture? If so, you should probably (like tina and greg said) have wedding couple shot or something, and a portrait? The moon is a great shot, but just thinking the card should target who you aim to target in terms of expected audience.

-Pleiades-

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 19:55

That's the thing though, I'm not really targeting anyone or anything at the moment. I just want to get my name out there. At the moment I'd be happy if people visit my gallery on the website (when I get it up and running) and bought prints off it of my work.

When I jump head first into photography I'll definatley have a more specific business card and website but at the moment I'm just trying to keep it general and simple.

I had another play with the card last night and took off the 'wedding' part. I'm really not ready for it at the moment and when I get into weddings I'll specificially designed wedding cards.

wakko

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 20:04

Ah nice.... can't wait to see your site... :)

-Pleiades-

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 20:09

lol, me either Feng!

Nick C.

14th of May 2007 (Mon), 22:22

What aren't you too sure about the moon Nick? Just a crappy image or looks out of place?
Definitely not a crappy image. I was just thinking more along the lines of what Feng has mentioned - that it doesn't really relate to any the services you offer. Aesthetically, the moon looks great on there.

Meaty0

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 00:39

Hey guys. I found that the hotel has an email/internet computer in the lobby that costs $2 for 20 mins instead of the $30 for 30 mins by connecting in my room. Can't upload photos though.:-( There is a USB thingy here on the computer but when I plugged the Epson P3000 into it, it made rude NZ gestures at me and told me to "pees orf"! Or was that "Pus Uff ya Ozzy"...I'll master this accent yet.

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 00:40

HAHAHA :) classic stuff... puss uff :P

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 00:56

That's a little more reasonable than a dollar a minute.
How's Ken and Matt doing? Were there any other Brisbanites over there with you?

HelenThura

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 01:38

ahhh Kinnon, I must say I don't envy you :) have fun with your webpage. I mean I have wrangled with code a fair bit for my blog but have little desire to take it further than that.

Paul, great to hear you having a great time in NZ. I second Nick's question about Ken and Matt (he hasn't checked in ages).

Nick, have you got your new camera yet?

mmm, what was I going to say. mmm. oh yes. My foray out to Nudgee on Sunday as well as seeing these gorgeous images - Kah Kit Yoong (http://www.pbase.com/kahkityoong) and the book by Galen Rowell that I picked up at Borders the other day (Inner Game of Outdoor Photography (http://www.amazon.com/Galen-Rowells-Inner-Outdoor-Photography/dp/039304985X)), has finally pushed me over the 2 years I have spent umming and ahhing over getting some graduated neutral density filters. I am placing an order with BH in the next couple of days if anyone wants to tack anything onto the order.

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 01:47

I am placing an order with BH in the next couple of days if anyone wants to tack anything onto the order.

oh oh pick me pick me :)

i have a whole heap of stuff, so if you want me to get it, and you chuck your NDs in with it, let me know ;)

otherwise, you go right ahead ;) heheh... I'm deciding if it's a right time to buy the tripod I want, a canon timer/remote release and a CPL and ND filters... if I'm impulsive i may pick up one more CF.

Kelsey-Lee

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 02:03

@ Kelsey: If you like, I can set you up a subdomain to play? Up to you.
That would be cool if you could. :D

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 02:20

@ Kelsey.

Yeah no problems.

I'm trying to think of some random sorta domain (like littleporkers, or something like that to let people mess about)... so I can go like someusername.littleporkers.com

anyone got any ideas?

or justmessingaround.com :D hehehe hrmm...

Kelsey-Lee

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 02:29

lol @ littleporkers!

I'll have a brainstorm...

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 02:34

yeah ta... as with everyone else if you come up with any ideas.

the idea is... get some generic domain that I'll pay for for 10 years and actively renew... I'll then give whoever is interested a email pop3 address or redirect (which ever you like)... i.e. someusername@justmessingabout.org or something like that... which can redirect or act as a proper server mailbox. Then give that same user a subdomain http://someusername.justmessingabout.org/ so they can host whatever... and load galleries onto it if they want... although most galleries are FTPed and configured from a install.php or similar.

My company will write off the cost of the domain rego, and the vps where this will be hosted is under my company name as well. One note is that traffic cannot be commercial (that's my own rule) because I don't want traffic to skyrocket... storage will be plenty (plenty of room atm).

Make sense?

<ramble off> ;)

Kelsey-Lee

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 02:41

Yup, that sounds good.

Hmmm, well I'm really pulling a blank page here. How about showcase? :D Haha, or skyrocket?

Meaty0

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 02:46

That's a little more reasonable than a dollar a minute.
How's Ken and Matt doing? Were there any other Brisbanites over there with you?

Well Ken's over here "on business" (yeah right) so I'm not sure where he is at the moment.

As for Mat Fitsimmons, he was absolutely a dead certain for this course, but I spoke to the people at the lodge where the course is being run and he isn't registered there. Don't know what happened to him, but I suspect it's something to do with finding a new girl friend:D ;) (He's been having a longer dry spell than Brisbane has when it comes to the girlfriend scene I suspect.)

Helen. I just bought some ND graduated filters (the Cokin setup) and have used them here on a few occasions now. They're a little fiddly to hook up, but have been excellent and the price wasn't too bad either.

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 02:51

No, no camera yet, Helen. :( I don't think the first shipment has made it in yet. Even if it has I doubt I'll get one of those. I think I was about 10th in line at PC.

Helen, or Feng, how do you guys pay for stuff from B&H. I was under the impression that they wouldn't take an Australian CC. I've bought stuff from them before and used a wire transfer but I have to have a minimum of $2000 for that.
I am looking to pick up a monitor calibrator and a card reader (I've got nowhere to stick my CF cards now with this laptop) if anyone want's to throw that in with their order. It's about US$220 so I don't want to send anyone over the GST threshold in doing so.

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 03:06

not sure Nick.

guess we'll come to that stumbling block when we do... was there a reason they didn't take AU cards? I still have a NZ card :D does that help? :D haha...

I want to try and keep it below $1000AUD.. so we'll see how it all pans out.

Ospi

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 03:12

Hey all, for those who are interested this is taking place on 26th/27th may.

http://thenationals.com.au/cat/gt.asp

Not sure if im going or not, hope so. This will be racing there though, and if theres any reason to go at all, its to see and hear that thing.

http://www.gtchampionship.com.au/img/news/n145.jpg

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 03:24

Feng, I believe something about their verification dept. having trouble with Australian banks or something like that. There may be a way to mail/fax in verification (such as copy of CC, etc) but I never bothered looking into it further. I just went to Adorama for any small purchases.
Just thought if one of you two had already done that then it would save me going through it all. I know, I'm a bit lazy.

Copy that, about the AU$1000.

Reece, thanks for the heads up. If I had a camera I would've joined you on the Saturday.

HelenThura

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 03:40

Nick - I had to send them a scan of my credit card, back and front. Which I don't agree with and I sent them a tersely worded comment about it when they asked me to fill out a customer satisfaction survey.

Feng, all I want is a Singh-Ray 3 stop soft (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=cart&A=details&Q=&sku=166994&is=REG) and a 2 stop hard (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=cart&A=details&Q=&sku=166993&is=REG)

Paul! get off the computer and go exploring!

Ospi

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 03:44

^^ i was also pretty peeved at that, then they wanted me to send a bank statement. I told em if they want a bank statement they can call up my bank and get it themselves. anyway, Adorama are pretty good though i use digitalRev for most of my stuff.

Also what happened to your gear nick? ima bit out of the loop.

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 03:48

Yeah, I thought it would be something like that. Like you Helen I'm not too keen on that.

Yeah I've never had a problem with Adorama. They took my card no problem - no verification or anything needed.

Whoa, those GNDs are pricey aren't they? Wouldn't multiple exposures+graduated mask in PS do a similar thing?

HelenThura

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 03:54

They are pricey Nick but very much worth it, as they are 110% neutral unlike a lot of the cheaper ones that may be a reddish gray or a bluey gray. I have gotten this far with doing multi-exposures etc but I am getting sick of having to spend the time in PS playing round and would much rather bag it one outside. Plus I have a problem with multi-exposures with the bloody trees and clouds moving too much between shots.

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 04:00

Ahh yes, movement would create a problem. Didn't think of that :oops:

PeacePlanet

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 04:11

Now what are these things about making purchases and big one at that ???

Helen who started these subliminal messages ? I thought you are the subliminal messengers bodyguard LOL.

Peace to all

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 04:38

ahahahah nice call Alexson :) hahah

how does adorama compare for price on these? might go check it out there too...

looking to place an order toward the end of the week... I'll draw up a list, and we'll work from there.

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 04:41

Pretty much the same price on most things. The only downside is they don't seem to carry as many (or all the same) lines as B&H.

HelenThura

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 05:01

yeah that is what I found Nick. My filters I have 3 choices as to where to get them - Sing-Ray or Mountain Light (Galen's company) both of whom have rather high shipping charges and sell nothing else or BH.

I don't know if it really classifies as a subliminal message but I will pay 5pts for that call Alexson. When I have the filters in my hand and start posting images of look at this photo, and then x says "how did you do it?" and I say "well X, I used these gorgeous filters to even my exposure, you should try them out". That is subliminal.

PeacePlanet

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 05:08

-Pleiades-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 06:18

A b&h order.... I need some stuff but I think I've just about spent about everything I got from the sale of some of my shares. Once I get my 5D I think I'll have enough left for a bag to put it all in and half a tripod :S

Ahh well next time!

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 06:22

half a tripod :(

I actually want to get a tripod from B&H, but have a sinking suspicion that I'll be over the $1000 by the time I get the other more important things.

with the toys you've just bought, you're not allowed to buy any more :) *grin*

-Pleiades-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 06:34

awww come on Feng, just a few more! I like this spending money busiess!

lol, yeah, half a tripod. By the time I get everything that I need I'll have about $200 left for a decent tripod, so I don't think I'll quiet get there. I'd like a monopod too. And I need more more memory, and a cpl filter, and some books, and CS3, and some studio lighting, and some....well I think you get it, the list goes on!

Does it ever end?

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 06:43

Does it ever end?
No. Never. Never ever ;)

-Pleiades-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 06:45

lol, didn't think so. I thought I'd be content once I get the 5D, the 24-70, the 70-200 and a laptop, but no, it's just left me wanting more. I really need to find me another job, or at least start making some money from my photography!

Are there any good books out there on photoshop techniques? I only have elements at the moment so I'm not too sure if the CS2 books apply?

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:43

I just ordered Scott Kelby's CS2 book from Amazon.
Apparently Kelby's books are generally well regarded. I believe he has ones for Elements as well as CS2 (and no doubt a CS3 version will be on its way soon).

kendickson

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:43

Hi all,

Off to NZ tomorrow - I will bring you all back some wonderful images (with any luck that is)!!

Cheers
Ken

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:44

I thought you were already over there :confused:. Have a safe trip!

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:44

No. Never. Never ever ;)

I, sadly, agree with this :(

I'm hanging for the 5D2... otherwise I'd have got the 5D by now too! :(

was tempted by the 1DIII, but FF is calling my name! :D

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:45

have a wonderful trip Ken! :)

-Pleiades-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:46

Thanks NIck, just checked it out on amazon and it looks pretty good. I see he has the CS3 book out already too.

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:48

Wow, didn't take him long.

-Pleiades-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:48

-Pleiades-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:49

Is CS3 even out yet?

kendickson

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:49

I thought you were already over there :confused:. Have a safe trip!

Paul is already I believe.

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:52

Is CS3 even out yet?

yes :D *grin*

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:53

Paul is already I believe.
Yeah, he is. He's been in contact a couple of times. We thought you went over at the same time, well I did anyway.

Yeah, CS3 is out.
I reckon a new 5D would be due around the end of the year or early next.

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:54

oooh Feng, don't say anything about a 5D2....

It'd be just my luck, I buy the 5d and then the next week the release the new version.....I checked the rumour forum and everything else that I could and no news on a new 5D....I hope....

nah it wouldn't be at LEAST until the September photokina whatever it's called show thingy... and I wouldn't buy it till early next year I suspect :) if it comes out and it's stuff all improvements, I'd get the 5D classic

-Pleiades-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:54

Well there you go!

I can handle end of the year or early next year, just not a month from now.

When I bought my 300D they released the 350D likea fortnight later....

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:56

Well there you go!

I can handle end of the year or early next year, just not a month from now.

When I bought my 300D they released the 350D likea fortnight later....

doh :) hehe... i told you I was hanging for it :D got tempted once already with a 1DIII... but NO! must stay strong for the greater FF good :) heheh

bummer about the 300D vs 350D :) but at least you've had a great run with the 30D?

-Pleiades-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:58

I love the 30D, very happy with it, but like you I'm hanging out for the FF.

Hopefully placing my order for it on thursday :D

Carjo

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 07:59

...got tempted once already with a 1DIII... but NO! must stay strong for the greater FF good :) heheh

oh... but I thought the 1DIII was full-frame?

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:00

That's why I love the 1.3x crop. The perfect compromise :)

catsith

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:04

god you lot can yack! pages upon pages, and i was only on last night!
safe and great trip ken
kinnon, i did mean on your business card.
i was just about to ask you nick were you ready to put an order in for b & h, but if they are going to be a pain, i will search elsewhere. If feng fill's up helens quota, then you can put it on mine.

-spam-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:07

And here is me just waiting for a nicely priced 30d to come my way, or a 20d even :confused:

But no, i just have to keep telling myself that the 400d plus grip is more camera than i need right now and that i need new glass before a new body :rolleyes:

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:08

oh... but I thought the 1DIII was full-frame?

Nah 1.3x or I'd have one already :D

That's why I love the 1.3x crop. The perfect compromise :)

mmm... but 24mm on a 1.3x is just not wide enough for me :D hahaha... too used to film, so had a hard time adjusting to 1.6x. FF for the win for me :D

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:10

I got bad influences here too with friends telling me to buy a 5D now so they can "acquire" my 30D :|

-Pleiades-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:10

Well I've just finished hopefully the final edit for the busines cards. Thought I'd go simple but non-specific for the time being. Left as much white around the edge incase anyone wants to write anything.

Ignore the red around the very outer edge, that part is for the printers. Apparently it's their margin of area section.

The red writting may be white as well because with the place I'm looking at to print the cards does colour one side and b&w the other side. To have colours on both sides it's an extra $37. So I don't think a little bit of red writting is worth an extra $37.
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-Pleiades-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:12

I got bad influences here too with friends telling me to buy a 5D now so they can "acquire" my 30D :|

I just sold my old 300D today to a friend, when I get the 5D the 30D is going nowhere though.

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:13

i was just about to ask you nick were you ready to put an order in for b & h, but if they are going to be a pain, i will search elsewhere. If feng fill's up helens quota, then you can put it on mine.

yeah i was going to compile a list of what we were chasing... and then see if we can source it from adorama or something similar... if not, i'll work something out with B&H.

if we send over our CC card details, do they keep them on record? so we dont' have the same drama next time?

Carjo

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:13

@ Feng - ah righteo then. So that means I'll save myself a couple of thousand if I go for the 5DII for that reason then. Hah... it'll be released way before I have the money for it :P

@ Kinnon - nice card! =)

you know, there have been something like 25 replies in the last half an hour or so... I've just been refreshing the page but MSN is telling me that I have quite a few POTN update emails :P

catsith

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:14

kinnon, it looks great, but if you want people to be able to read your name, change your font, because all I can see is ki and the rest is a blur. There is no way I would be able to pick your name out of it.

Greg_C

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:15

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:16

Nah 1.3x or I'd have one already :D
I would hope not. I'd be very upset :(

There's just no compromising for you FF lovers is there ;)

Thanks, Tina. Just let me know - I'll do the same if I decide to go ahead before hand.

-Pleiades-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:19

Tina, the signature part I guess you could call it my logo, then on the other side of the card where I have the web address is my name. You reckon it would confuse people?

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:19

Hi All,

On the topic of new releases, if Canon are true to previous form the expect a new camera around Aug/Sept. They seem to run their cameras on a 18mth replacement schedule. So the 30D is due to be replaced this Sept. 5D was due in Feb/Mar and the failure to do this upset a lot of people. Get over it!!

Me, I'm more than happy with my 30D for now. I have no great desire to jump to full frame, although I reserve the right to change my mind whenever I want.:p

yeah... I wasn't sore... had no money in feb/mar to get one anyways ;D HAHHA... would look to see what there was in jan/feb next year (we get a nice bonus this year, so wondering whether I should bite the bullet with a 1DIII) and progress up the tree toward FF... bleh.. i think if I got a 1 series cam, I'd never want anything else? does that happen?

come on 5D2!!!!! :( be my wallet's saving grace :)

anyways... i'm off to sleep... had a crapper of day.... want an early night

have a good evening all.

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:20

I would hope not. I'd be very upset :(

There's just no compromising for you FF lovers is there ;)

mmm wouldn't say that Nick... see how things go... I'd just prefer FF... but like i said... if nothing in aug/sept, then i may go for a 1DIII then. :)

Greg_C

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:21

anyways... i'm off to sleep... had a crapper of day.... want an early night

have a good evening all.

G'night Feng, ..... g'night jimbob, g'night johnboy, etc etc etc.:D:p

-spam-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:22

So the 30D is due to be replaced this Sept.

Right in time for my birthday :p

Except ill still be asking for a 30d or near new condition 20d. All i really need out of the next camera is a faster frame rate and better buffer, so they both have what i need

Greg_C

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:25

Right in time for my birthday :p

Except ill still be asking for a 30d or near new condition 20d. All i really need out of the next camera is a faster frame rate and better buffer, so they both have what i need
My B'day to in Sept. No new gear expected though.
what ever you do don't look at the back of a 30D, the larger screen will have you suckered in for sure.

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:26

Right in time for my birthday :p

Except ill still be asking for a 30d or near new condition 20d. All i really need out of the next camera is a faster frame rate and better buffer, so they both have what i need

:D

Some dude was trying to sell of his refurbed 20D from B&H with warranty to 2010 for $1000 and no one wanted it :| getting cheaper :)

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:26

what ever you do don't look at the back of a 30D, the larger screen will have you suckered in for sure.

Yup! that's for sure... ;)

BED!!!!!

/me = gone

Nick C.

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:28

...i think if I got a 1 series cam, I'd never want anything else? does that happen?

come on 5D2!!!!! :( be my wallet's saving grace :)

anyways... i'm off to sleep... had a crapper of day.... want an early night

have a good evening all.
1 series are nice and you'll never look back, unless you prefer the option of a lighter camera, but I think a 5D would be a nice companion for a III. Best of both worlds for the price of a 1Ds.

Night, Feng!

Greg_C

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:28

/me = gone
sure

-spam-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:35

My B'day to in Sept. No new gear expected though.
what ever you do don't look at the back of a 30D, the larger screen will have you suckered in for sure.

But the screen is just for checking histograms right ;) Bigger screen would be nice, but i can live with a smaller one. I mean i get along just fine with my film slr and the yashica and they dont even have an lcd :lol:

:D

Some dude was trying to sell of his refurbed 20D from B&H with warranty to 2010 for $1000 and no one wanted it :| getting cheaper :)

I think i was looking at that and ummming and ahhing over it, but decided that money would be better invested in a sigma 70-200 f2.8 or a canon version if i could hold out that long

Greg_C

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:40

I don't think any of you guys use it but IMatch (http://www.photools.com/relnotes.php?PHPSESSID=ef016e2c23b986865d105280bb7 d97d7) has just release a major upgrade. Backup and upgrade time for me buy the looks of it. I didn't go in of the long series of Beta's and may even hold off for a month or so to make sure it's super stable.

IMatch is one thing I plan to talk about/demo 3rd June. See if I can get some converts.

Carjo

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:43

there's a 2nd hand 20D at Ted's in the city at the moment, and a 1.4 tele and some extenson tubes...

-spam-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:48

there's a 2nd hand 20D at Ted's in the city at the moment, and a 1.4 tele and some extenson tubes...

Ill be in there tomorrow and its pay day too.... oh oh, dangerous :D

I might take a good look at the extension tubes, been after a set for a while now.

Greg_C

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 08:49

there's a lot more 2nd hand Canon gear at Ted's than I've seen in a long while. They had a 180 Macro in there for only $100 less than you can pick it up new. To me, if you are dropping that money on it then another $100 just gives you the peace of mind of a shight and briney new lens.

catsith

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 09:13

kinnon, i think it would be better if one could read your name straight away. Try some differnt fonts, and see what you come up with. First impact counts.

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 17:02

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 17:03

Ill be in there tomorrow and its pay day too.... oh oh, dangerous :D

I might take a good look at the extension tubes, been after a set for a while now.

<begin subliminal message>you know you want one.... you know you want one.... you know you want one.... pay day too.... you know you want one....<end subliminal message>

Oh awesome... :D

-Pleiades-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 18:56

Morning all :D

Another question... when I start to upload photos to my gallery for the web is the a standard size or pixel resolution people use so people don't go downloading my photos willy nilly?

-spam-

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 19:48

<begin subliminal message>you know you want one.... you know you want one.... you know you want one.... pay day too.... you know you want one....<end subliminal message>

Oh awesome... :D

That had already started as soon as i read that they were there :)

Actually, the first thought that came to mind was how can i rob a bank of just a little bit so i can afford them and the 20d :-P

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 19:53

Morning all :D

Another question... when I start to upload photos to my gallery for the web is the a standard size or pixel resolution people use so people don't go downloading my photos willy nilly?

for most things, i'd make them 800px wide size wise (mainly to conform with here)... but if you want them as samples, then maybe it'd pay to investigate watermarking?

oh... MORNING :)

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 19:54

That had already started as soon as i read that they were there :)

hahah :) go you good thing! :)

PeacePlanet

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 20:50

OH ... I think I need to put on my strong hallo to get a rid of all the subliminal messages around here :)

Peace to you all ...

wakko

15th of May 2007 (Tue), 21:36

OH ... I think I need to put on my strong hallo to get a rid of all the subliminal messages around here :)

Peace to you all ...

hahaha yeah... it's crazy eh <begin subliminal message>spam... you know you want one... you know you want one... <end subliminal message> dunno how people cope with it these days without strong halos :)

Meaty0

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 03:18

god you lot can yack! pages upon pages, and i was only on last night!

And this from a person with an average of NINE posts every day:D :D (But I totally agree with you Tina...Three pages full in just one day!

Okay...I went exploring 400km of the surrounding countryside today and found the most wonderful places. St Bathan's mining pit is an amazing place and I sooooooo wish I could upload the photos I took there....sadly...I can't:cry:

We MUST orgainise a POTN outing to NZ sometime.

Helen Don't worry...I'm doing plenty of exploring. I have to email my daughter each day to make sure our pet birds are still alive and the house is in one piece! I've explored the inside of FIVE NZ pubs today...Monteith's Winter Ale is amazing and you guys can't get it over there:p

Kinnon If you aren't going to do much wedding photography, then I like your card as is.

I'll speak to you guys again no doubt.

See Ya:D

-Pleiades-

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 03:31

I'm soooo jealous Paul! I wish I was there in NZ, would have loved to have gone. Next year I guess!

catsith

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 03:39

oh paul, those subliminal messages again. Book me in for nz next year, that will be a definite if the timing is right!

-spam-

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 04:37

oh paul, those subliminal messages again.

Too right. Guess who came home from town with a set of extension tubes today :confused:

:p

Carjo

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 04:38

Oh so you bought them? Nice! :D How much did they cost? I know one of them was $200, or something like that

-spam-

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 04:51

Oh so you bought them? Nice! :D How much did they cost? I know one of them was $200, or something like that

I got the full set of Jessops ones (i think that is what they are) for like $70. Nice and solid, pretty clean and autofocus works quite nicely with all three stacked together.

But i did keep looking at the 20d they had, except it was a bit out of my pricerange at $1100, especially when i can get a new body only 30d for $300 more

shayb

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 07:43

Whoa! take a week off and there's another 20pages to go through!

Carjo

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 09:06

I got the full set of Jessops ones (i think that is what they are) for like $70. Nice and solid, pretty clean and autofocus works quite nicely with all three stacked together.

But i did keep looking at the 20d they had, except it was a bit out of my pricerange at $1100, especially when i can get a new body only 30d for $300 more

Hmmm... okay I must have been thinking of something else that was $200.

30D body for $1400? I think you usually only get a twin lens 400D kit for that amount. Whereabouts is this, I'd like to know what they can do about a 5D :D

wakko

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 09:08

1400 is a great price on a new 30D body though :)

wonder what they'd do for 3 5Ds? :D Helen needs one too eh? :)

-spam-

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 09:12

Hmmm... okay I must have been thinking of something else that was $200.

30D body for $1400? I think you usually only get a twin lens 400D kit for that amount. Whereabouts is this, I'd like to know what they can do about a 5D :D

Alright, it was really $350 instead of $300 but its my weekend and my brain is fried right now :confused:

http://d-d-photographics.com.au/canon30d.htm
Pretty sure that place came up in this thread a few pages back when all the 5d discussion was about.

1400 is a great price on a new 30D body though :)

wonder what they'd do for 3 5Ds? :D Helen needs one too eh? :)

My dad is convinced on a 5d right now as well, im still focused on a 30d though.

On a side note, has anyone had any experience dealing with Prolab at south bank? Ive got a bunch of slide and 120 film sitting here waiting to be develeoped and southbank is easier to get to without a car than Photo continental.

Carjo

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 09:28

On a side note, has anyone had any experience dealing with Prolab at south bank? Ive got a bunch of slide and 120 film sitting here waiting to be develeoped and southbank is easier to get to without a car than Photo continental.

Unfortunately I don't know much about Prolab. Though after this weekend I'm getting about six more rolls of print film done, and I'm getting fed up with Fotofast. I'm missing half my Dawn Service shots because they forgot to print or scan those frames... :confused: And that's not the first time either. Why is it always the shots I'm most eager to see that they forget?

So yeah, Spam, unless somebody else can tell you I'll look into it and get back to you.

-spam-

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 09:38

Cool, i was thinking about heading in there tomorrow while i have a chance to.

Was also checking out there website and i cant find anything about them actually processing film for non comercial customers :confused: One would think that given Teds Camera house in town is refering customers needing slide and other format film developed there, they would do it. But im now a bit cautious about going in there with a bag load of film if they wont develop it.

Carjo

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 10:01

"Though refusal often offends, the least you can do is ask."

That's what I usually say in that regard. :) Though yes, that's the vibe I got from their website as well. If they say no then I'll ask Hugh from QSMEE where he gets his slides done when I see him over the weekend. Being a school teacher I doubt he'd have the time to do it himself :p

wakko

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 17:24

My dad is convinced on a 5d right now as well, im still focused on a 30d though.

Mmmmm good job! :) I want a 5D too... so does Helen ;););)

catsith

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 18:17

Whoa! take a week off and there's another 20pages to go through!

manic isn't it! Hey shay, week off? that must meen you have had your trip to italy!! How was it?

HelenThura

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 18:36

1400 is a great price on a new 30D body though :)

wonder what they'd do for 3 5Ds? :D Helen needs one too eh? :)

Presuming that my final interview for the RAAF is a success in 11 days I am planning on buying a 5D when I finish officer training :) Which should be just after the new one is released.

wakko

16th of May 2007 (Wed), 19:05

Presuming that my final interview for the RAAF is a success in 11 days I am planning on buying a 5D when I finish officer training :) Which should be just after the new one is released.

excellent... :) mmm 5D2 loving (or whatever it's going to be called).

I've decided I'll only get a TC-80N3 Timer (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/164271-REG/Canon_2477A002_Timer_Remote_Controller_TC_80N3.htm l) and a Hoya Pro1 Digitial Circular Polariser (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/391185-REG/Hoya_XD77CRPL_77mm_Circular_Polarizing_Pro.html) for two of my lenses this time, so whoever wants to order, let me know... I guess if someone wants to do the order, I don't mind splitting the freight.

Let me know... I'll probably place an order later on in a couple of months. Cash flow is a bit tight to order the tripod I want.