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kolorkapture
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 13:59
I recently started shooting in raw. I get this histogram alert on almost every image when I open it in Adobe Bridge or Photoshop. I get this alert even when I have no clippings and the exposure is correct. What is it with this alert sign? Also, why do the histograms look different in Bridge and Photoshop? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
kolorkapture
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 17:34
Is my question too hard to answer ? 3 hours and no reply, where are all of you guys?
Mark_Cohran
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 17:38
I've never had a histogram alert, so I wouldn't be any help. You might try asking in the Post Processing Forum.
Mark
Bill Roberts
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 18:33
I can't say I've ever come across it, but any chance of a screen dump so that we could see what you're on about?
Bill
kolorkapture
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 19:16
Its the little yellow triangle with the exclamation point inside. Look at the top message. Just to the left of my title, you'll see it. I get it all the time. It shows up on the top right corner of the histogram, even when my exposure looks good, even when there's no clipping.
gjl711
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 19:23
I can't say I've ever come across it, but any chance of a screen dump so that we could see what you're on about?
Bill
Same here, brought up Photoshop and loaded up a few photos that I know were horrible and could not spot the icon. I did a quick search on Goggle and it turned up nothing as well. Maybe I'm not looking at the right place. A screen shot would really help.
ibdb
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 19:51
I recently started shooting in raw. I get this histogram alert on almost every image when I open it in Adobe Bridge or Photoshop. I get this alert even when I have no clippings and the exposure is correct. What is it with this alert sign? Also, why do the histograms look different in Bridge and Photoshop? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I've seen the "alert" briefly while the file is being read in to Bridge for the first time. It goes away quickly for me, so I've never paid it a moment's attention to tell you anything more about it.
As to the different histograms, you're seeing a RAW histogram in ACR (Bridge) and a processed (JPG, TIFF, PSD, whatever) in Photoshop. I can't explain all the details about why they're different, but if you're interested in learning a whole lot more about RAW and about ACR in particular, see Bruce Fraser's EXCELLENT book, Real World Camera Raw.
dicktay
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 19:55
I "think" that is while the image data is being read in (it's giving a preview) and it's telling you not to take any notice of the preview pic untill its completed processing. When it goes off it's then ok to work on it.
I see it a lot.
Hope this helps.
Richard
kolorkapture
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 19:58
Thanks for the info. I'll try to get the book.
kolorkapture
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 20:03
Ok, Richard, since you see what I see, let me ask you, do you see it even when you've fixed your image in raw/photoshop or does it go away after the image is done. Should it go away or is it telling me that something more needs to be done to get a "perfect" image.
Thanks
Hellashot
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 20:09
Is my question too hard to answer ? 3 hours and no reply, where are all of you guys?
You post something at 2pm eastern USA time on a Friday an expect to be answered before people get home? People might not even go right home after work on Fridays. :)
kolorkapture
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 20:17
sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone.:cry:
gjl711
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 20:31
sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone.:cry:
No offense, just curious.
kolorkapture
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 20:43
Well, since there are members from all over the world posting here and I got my first few posts replied to within minutes of posting, I thought that's how it goes. I should've known people have got better things to do than replying to my silly questions on a Friday evening.
dicktay
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 20:44
This is from the CS2help guide.
'To process camera raw files in Camera Raw'
"Note: A caution icon appears in the thumbnails and preview image while the preview is generated from the cache."
When I open up a CR2 image from bridge into ACR (CS2) it sits there for 2 or 3 seconds then goes away. Even If I have opened that image up before. I don't start working on it untill it has gone. When I have finished processing in ACR I then oen it into CS2 itself for more work. When finished I will save it as a Photoshop file. I never overwrite the original RAW files although they will look different after being through ACR by virtue of the XMP files etc.
dicktay
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 20:45
That's ok, its Saturday lunchtime 1250 down here (Sydney, Australia.
kolorkapture
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 20:50
Thanks for sharing your your workflow.
kolorkapture
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 20:50
:D Bonappetite!
jfrancho
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 20:54
As I posted in the other thread, I think you are referring to the histogram panel in Photoshop. The little panel refers to the fact that it using a cached histo. Click the "!" icon to refresh the histo with data from the live, uncompressed image. While you are learning Photoshop, it is good to go into the settings and turn on tooltips. They are visible when you hover over something for a few seconds.
http://plan-b.smugmug.com/photos/124192382-O.jpg
kolorkapture
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 21:02
That's exactly what I was talking about. Sorry, don't know how to get a screenshot like that one. But thanks so much for all this information, jfrancho. Much appreciated.
jfrancho
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 21:16
No prob. To get a screen shot, just hit the "PrtScn" button. Then in an image editor, paste the image into a new document. I used Photoshop, and cropped it to show the important part. Another tip: to get just the top window - like an error box - hit "Alt-PrtScr".
kolorkapture
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 21:23
OK, where is this "prtscn" button located????
lostdoggy
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 21:31
to the right of F12
jfrancho
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 21:32
Mine is up high, to the right of the "function" keys (i.e. F1, F2, F3....). It's usually somewhere near the number pad. It might be a dual function key. Go to google images (http://images.google.com/) and type, print screen button.
kolorkapture
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 21:43
I'm sooooo stupid. I know I deserve to be stared at just the way your avatar is staring at me, lostdoggy. I'm going to go hide into my closet and never come out again. bye bye everyone.
joayne
19th of January 2007 (Fri), 21:45
You can paste PrtSc into a word document or NotePad or WordPad also...Smaller file size.
My button is above f10 on my laptop :D
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