PS vs DSLR

[Eddy Koh]

Hi,

I own a PS Canon G2 and now have bought a 10D. Somehow the picture quality (sharpness / clarity) of G2 is better then 10D. Canon has replied as such:-
Digital SLRs are generally set to be softer and not so aggressive in
sharpening as it is intended for them to "unsharp" to their own liking in
photoshop. If u do not wish to use external software, then G2 is the choice
for u.
Can someone please advise me on what canon reply is true.

Thanks

[stevelew]

Which lens did you buy with your 10D? A lot of times the unsharpness is caused by user error such as F stops and Depth of Field wrong setting for autofocus such as servo or single shot. You have 7 focus points on your camera and sometimes they pick the wrong place to focus. I would use the center focus point most of the time. Your camera could be soft also which is always a concern with me. I'm always doing focus tests.

Good luck with your new camera.

Steve

[Cadwell]

Yup, I think the Canon reply just about sums it up. With the 10D Canon assumes that you will want to post process the images manually in something like photoshop. Consequently it does a minimum of in-camera processing.

The P&S cameras assume that you want to use the images straight out of the box and hence are processed more in-camera.

[Canuck]

Have a look at this thread, I put the unmodded other than crop and made it a JPEG so I could post it and then below, after processing is the 2nd pic taken from the original. This is normal. They leave it to you to process it.
Here's the thread: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26535

[evilenglishman]

Digital SLRs are generally set to be softer and not so aggressive in
sharpening as it is intended for them to "unsharp" to their own liking in
photoshop. If u do not wish to use external software, then G2 is the choice
for u.
Thanks


What a completely crappy reply considering you told them you already had a G2. Maybe you should tell them you didn't know other software was required and ask for a full refund. :twisted:

If they believe that they should ship photoshop with the 10D and not elements. At the very least their own software should be able to handle the sharpening or even have a warning on the box saying "Third party software is needed to make your images sharp".

[kanwingshing]

Are you able to post some samples up and show us your findings? What lens are you using on the 10D?
I have 10D and G3, and I don't have the same problem as you do.

[5 Type]

Isn't a way with the 10D to add sharness directly on the 10D.


PAGE 56 - Canon 10D Instruction manual

The image you capture can be processed automatically by the camera in accordance with the
parameter settings you set (five settings each for [Contrast], [Sharpness], [Saturation], and
[Color tone]). You can register and save up to three sets of processing parameters.
By selecting [Standard], all the parameter settings will be reset to [0].

You have these setting : -2 ; -1 ; 0 ; 1 ; 2
And the default setting is 0
On the dreb the default setting is : +1 (if I can Recal)

So maybe you can try to add shapness...

[scottbergerphoto]

I went from the G2 to the 10D a year ago. Even with the in camera sharpening at +2, the pictures right out of the 10D are softer then the G2. Not a problem!!!!!!Add USM in PSE2, or PSCS, or your Raw Converter (I use BreezeBrowser), and the 10D pics will blow the G2 pics away in detail, color, sharpness.
Regards,
Scott

[Cordell]

Digital SLRs are generally set to be softer and not so aggressive in
sharpening as it is intended for them to "unsharp" to their own liking in
photoshop. If u do not wish to use external software, then G2 is the choice
for u.
Thanks


What a completely crappy reply considering you told them you already had a G2. Maybe you should tell them you didn't know other software was required and ask for a full refund. :twisted:

If they believe that they should ship photoshop with the 10D and not elements. At the very least their own software should be able to handle the sharpening or even have a warning on the box saying "Third party software is needed to make your images sharp".

evilenglishman,

This is actually a very true statement from Canon. Everything that comes in the box will do what is needed to obtain a sharp image. You may not like the particular apps provided, but the end result of a sharp image is possible. The whole idea with dslr is control. Not giving p&s results.

Anyone purchasing anything should also do more homework prior to the purchase. Especially if it's not a cheap purchase. Moving from a p&s is a nice leap financially, so it is a good idea to find out as much as you can before hand. People often believe spending more money gives them automation and ease. Automation can also require work (IE USM, histograms, color correction, etc). Again, the idea is CONTROL.

[CyberDyneSystems]

http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/11242.html

[evilenglishman]

This is actually a very true statement from Canon. Everything that comes in the box will do what is needed to obtain a sharp image. You may not like the particular apps provided, but the end result of a sharp image is possible. The whole idea with dslr is control. Not giving p&s results.

good point, but why didnt canon say that?
Why go and say the magic word *photoshop*?

In the immortal words of Shania Twain "Ka-Ching!"

[timmyquest]

If you decide you dont want your 10D give it to me

8)