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azpix
30th of January 2007 (Tue), 00:20
I downloaded a beta version of lightroom and was messing around with it tonight. Is this just a scaled down version of ps?

Kadath
30th of January 2007 (Tue), 00:42
www.napp.com and lynda.com and luminous-landscape.com have great tutorials. its NOT a scaled down PS at all, its something totally different.

joegolf68
30th of January 2007 (Tue), 00:55
www.napp.com (http://www.napp.com) and lynda.com and luminous-landscape.com have great tutorials. its NOT a scaled down PS at all, its something totally different.

I think I agree with the OP, if he/she is asking, what are the basic differences? What does one do that the other doesn't?

Seems like there are so many overlaps in all of these programs, for the casual guy, it is getting hard to tell which is which. Now if that was what the OP was also saying, well, then, I agree. As for you napp.com link, I didn't see anything there.

azpix
30th of January 2007 (Tue), 10:38
I think I agree with the OP, if he/she is asking, what are the basic differences? What does one do that the other doesn't?

Seems like there are so many overlaps in all of these programs, for the casual guy, it is getting hard to tell which is which. Now if that was what the OP was also saying, well, then, I agree. As for you napp.com link, I didn't see anything there.


joe

that's exactly what i'm asking. I have cs2 and am slowly learning that. I wanted to know what was different and what was lightroom geared for.

rfreschner
30th of January 2007 (Tue), 11:12
Check out the article referenced in this thread (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=258373) by Scott Kelby.

rfreschner
30th of January 2007 (Tue), 11:14
P.S. - the product has evolved significantly since the last beta so I would not judge it by that. Instead, check out this thread (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=269949) for a link to the NAPP videos on the v1.0 release.

joegolf68
30th of January 2007 (Tue), 16:37
This is kind of what I mean. When asked, everyone just says, go to this link and read. It is obvious to me that the differences must be kind of subtle, complicated, and not easily explained, which is really unfortunate. It makes me want to go and check it out briefly and then like it or toss it out. I have done this with several of these beta programs that are out. It is all due to cost, and crippling one program or another, but not, IMHO offering ease of use as a trade-off. If someone really uses PS CS2 a lot, then they know the basics and much more, so they can go and check out other programs for fine tuning what they want, for the rest of us casual users, it is just one more nightmare out on the market to confuse us. There are just so many overlapping programs, some from the same companies. For those wanting to spend a ton of time learning, or for those who pick up on these type of things quickly, no big deal, but it is becoming a minefield for the rest of us. I think that is what the OP is saying, and it is certainly what I am saying.

I've used DPP a few times, and I like it, especially ZoomBrowser. Oh well, this market must be doing well to continue to release new programs all of the time. For me, the easier the better, but I'm not seeing much of that in these new programs!

rfreschner
30th of January 2007 (Tue), 16:52
Actually, there are a number of reasons I sent links instead of trying to explain myself and I'll try and expand on those here. First off, Scott Kelby has been working with PS a heck of a lot more than I have and has certainly forgotten more than I'll ever know. Secondly, the tutorials from NAPP show a different version of LR than the rest of us have been using. If the last beta were the release candidate then I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole - there are too many issues for it to be of use to me. So, it's nice to see some of the stuff that these guys have been using for months now. And, last but not least, I'm in work so it's easier to send some links to try and help out rather than ignore the question altogether.

All that being said, LR is a ground-up development of a tool (similar to Apple's Aperture) that is designed to meet the needs of a professional photographer's workflow. Does that mean it is only intended for professionals? Not at all. It means that it is designed to make it easier to process large volumes of images, and therefore, smaller volumes will benefit also. From what I've seen from the beta and now the videos, I can't wait to get my hands on the product. There will still be some issues to work around - it is a version 1.0 of course - but there are just too many things in there that will help me out. I won't be abandoning PS though, as it's designed for a different use, but I will be using it a whole lot less.

I could probably go on, but I'm still in work. :D Hope that helps a bit more.