Is it lense or lens???

[roanjohn]

I am always confused when I type this down..........which one is it??!!?? :?:

Ro1

[kanwingshing]

This is straight from Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Main Entry: lens
Variant(s): also lense /'lenz/
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin lent-, lens, from Latin, lentil; from its shape
1 a : a piece of transparent material (as glass) that has two opposite regular surfaces either both curved or one curved and the other plane and that is used either singly or combined in an optical instrument for forming an image by focusing rays of light b : a combination of two or more simple lenses c : a piece of glass or plastic used (as in safety goggles or sunglasses) to protect the eye
2 : a device for directing or focusing radiation other than light (as sound waves, radio microwaves, or electrons)
3 : something shaped like a biconvex optical lens <lens of sandstone>
4 : a highly transparent biconvex lens-shaped or nearly spherical body in the eye that focuses light rays (as upon the retina) -- see EYE illustration
5 : something that facilitates and influences perception, comprehension, or evaluation <the author's own lens seems blurred by bias -- Seymour Topping>

[CyberDyneSystems]

In some dictionaries.. (apperently not Webster) lense is listed as an excepted alternate regional spelling.... I don't recall the regions. :)

[Cadwell]

lens.

"lense" is just being greedy with letters, like "queue" why so many letters? The second "ue" is superfluous. There are whole villages in some parts of the world that don't have enough letters to round and here we are using them unnecessarily. It’s just conspicuous consumption and we should be ashamed of ourselves!

;)

[G3]

In the "Olden Days" when things were spelled with extra vowels, such as "Lense", "Olde", "Towne", etc. , "Lense" was the appropriate spelling. Then came the Great Vowel Shortage of 1614. During that time, legislation was passed prohibiting the use of the silent 'e' on the end of those words in an effort to conserve vowels. There was no shortage of consonants, so words like "pneumonia" are still around.

[The Photo Tuell]

I think it's some kind of reflex that makes me type the extra 'e' fairly often. So you aren't the only one. I know it's spelled 'lens' but something just makes me mess up sometimes (I didn't this time heh).

[CyberDyneSystems]

In the "Olden Days" when things were spelled with extra vowels, such as "Lense", "Olde", "Towne", etc. , "Lense" was the appropriate spelling. Then came the Great Vowel Shortage of 1614. During that time, legislation was passed prohibiting the use of the silent 'e' on the end of those words in an effort to conserve vowels. There was no shortage of consonants, so words like "pneumonia" are still around.

You want consonants? Go to Czechoslovakia.....

[CoolToolGuy]

In the "Olden Days" when things were spelled with extra vowels, such as "Lense", "Olde", "Towne", etc. , "Lense" was the appropriate spelling. Then came the Great Vowel Shortage of 1614. During that time, legislation was passed prohibiting the use of the silent 'e' on the end of those words in an effort to conserve vowels. There was no shortage of consonants, so words like "pneumonia" are still around.

So they must have missed camera in that round? :roll: :) :D :lol:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

[Cadwell]

In the "Olden Days" when things were spelled with extra vowels, such as "Lense", "Olde", "Towne", etc. , "Lense" was the appropriate spelling. Then came the Great Vowel Shortage of 1614. During that time, legislation was passed prohibiting the use of the silent 'e' on the end of those words in an effort to conserve vowels. There was no shortage of consonants, so words like "pneumonia" are still around.

Ah... hence the scattering of "Ye Olde Tea Shoppe"s in tourist areas. I understand! ;)

[karusel]

lens.

"lense" is just being greedy with letters, like "queue" why so many letters? The second "ue" is superfluous. There are whole villages in some parts of the world that don't have enough letters to round and here we are using them unnecessarily. It’s just conspicuous consumption and we should be ashamed of ourselves!

;)

Uh huh, apparently you don't know french... they write words historically, that roughly means that a long time ago they had long words and they pronounced them long, now they use like 14 letters for a word that is pronounced as if it had three...

Also, yarrr... Ye olde 50 mm lense be naught compared to what I boughte myselfe now.

[CoolToolGuy]

lens.

"lense" is just being greedy with letters, like "queue" why so many letters? The second "ue" is superfluous. There are whole villages in some parts of the world that don't have enough letters to round and here we are using them unnecessarily. It’s just conspicuous consumption and we should be ashamed of ourselves!

;)

Uh huh, apparently you don't know french... they write words historically, that roughly means that a long time ago they had long words and they pronounced them long, now they use like 14 letters for a word that is pronounced as if it had three...

So does someone have an explanation for Wales? :roll:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

[G3]

In the "Olden Days" when things were spelled with extra vowels, such as "Lense", "Olde", "Towne", etc. , "Lense" was the appropriate spelling. Then came the Great Vowel Shortage of 1614. During that time, legislation was passed prohibiting the use of the silent 'e' on the end of those words in an effort to conserve vowels. There was no shortage of consonants, so words like "pneumonia" are still around.

So they must have missed camera in that round? :roll: :) :D :lol:

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Rick 8)

Yes. In those days, "camera" was spelled "camere" and pronounced "kammer" ("spelled" was also spelt "spelt"). One day a photographer was driving around in his Forde with his camere trying to finde something to photographe thinking "How am I ever going to get used to this new spelling rule?" Then he had an idea. "Self," he thought to himself, "I'll just change the spelling." So , he changed it to "Camera" so that it no longer had a silente vowele on the ende. But that didn't work for him because he had to get used to that, which was just as hard as getting used to "camer". But the spelling stuck.

[CoolToolGuy]

In the "Olden Days" when things were spelled with extra vowels, such as "Lense", "Olde", "Towne", etc. , "Lense" was the appropriate spelling. Then came the Great Vowel Shortage of 1614. During that time, legislation was passed prohibiting the use of the silent 'e' on the end of those words in an effort to conserve vowels. There was no shortage of consonants, so words like "pneumonia" are still around.

So they must have missed camera in that round? :roll: :) :D :lol:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

Yes. In those days, "camera" was spelled "camere" and pronounced "kammer" ("spelled" was also spelt "spelt"). One day a photographer was driving around in his Forde with his camere trying to finde something to photographe thinking "How am I ever going to get used to this new spelling rule?" Then he had an idea. "Self," he thought to himself, "I'll just change the spelling." So , he changed it to "Camera" so that it no longer had a silente vowele on the ende. But that didn't work for him because he had to get used to that, which was just as hard as getting used to "camer". But the spelling stuck.

Are you sure he was driving a Forde, or was it a Camaro? I think he looked at the name of the car on the dashboard and just mixed things up :roll: :) :D :lol:

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Rick 8)

[karusel]

Silenc now, tim to think, I must concentrat! Thos words ar giving me a headach... ah, nevermind, I'll just tak my camra and shoot a pictur or two or mor. :lol:

[CoolToolGuy]

Silenc now, tim to think, I must concentrat! Thos words ar giving me a headach... ah, nevermind, I'll just tak my camra and shoot a pictur or two or mor. :lol:

What's the matter, can't focus :?:

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Rick 8)

[w10d]

Uh huh, apparently you don't know french... they write words historically, that roughly means that a long time ago they had long words and they pronounced them long, now they use like 14 letters for a word that is pronounced as if it had three...
.

Though they do pronounce the whole word if it ends in an 'e', like Lense. But they call it 'objectif'. In fact they pronounce all of that one too, because it ends in an 'f', same goes for words ending in 'r' 'l' and 'c', unless the 'c' follows an 'n'.... What could be simpler???

As for the Welsh, all I can say is 'Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwlllantsiliog ogogoch'.

(OK, I can't really).

[CoolToolGuy]

Uh huh, apparently you don't know french... they write words historically, that roughly means that a long time ago they had long words and they pronounced them long, now they use like 14 letters for a word that is pronounced as if it had three...
.

Though they do pronounce the whole word if it ends in an 'e', like Lense. But they call it 'objectif'. In fact they pronounce all of that one too, because it ends in an 'f', same goes for words ending in 'r' 'l' and 'c', unless the 'c' follows an 'n'.... What could be simpler???

As for the Welsh, all I can say is 'Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwlllantsiliog ogogoch'.

(OK, I can't really).

Okay, many of us speak English where I come from (but I must remain diverse, so I can't say it is the official language), and the language has many rules, which are often violated - BUT, back to French - How do you explain the 'ault' - like Renault? :roll:

On second thought, don't bother, we could be here all night on this tangent :!: :) :D :lol:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

[Cadwell]

So does someone have an explanation for Wales? :roll:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

The Welsh are ineffable. ;)

[karusel]

Good point Rick. Btw, my language - Slovenian - has an almost write-as-you-talk rule. So, a is read as a in car, e is read as e in bed, i is read as english letter e, and so on, (there are however quite some exceptions with consonants tho', but we don't have unnecessary letters in the words, I guess we like to keep it simple :)) actually 'bed' comes pretty close to our way of writing/reading...

[evilenglishman]

According to the Oxford English dictionary (which is the real English dictionary - not some Americanized version):


lens

• noun 1 a piece of transparent material with one or both sides curved for concentrating or dispersing light rays. 2 the light-gathering device of a camera, containing a group of compound lenses. 3 Anatomy the transparent elastic structure behind the iris by which light is focused on to the retina of the eye.

— DERIVATIVES lensed adjective.

— ORIGIN Latin, ‘lentil’ (because of the similarity in shape).

The spelling lense isn't mentioned.

[w10d]

BUT, back to French - How do you explain the 'ault' - like Renault? :roll:

On second thought, don't bother, we could be here all night on this tangent :!: :) :D :lol:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

To me it's the same 'eau' that comes out of the tap :lol:

BTW, with so many surplus letters, why can't they afford to make a word for 80 ???

[Cadwell]

BTW, with so many surplus letters, why can't they afford to make a word for 80 ???

Because the French realised that after you get to 69, there isn't much point in going any further :p ;)

[w10d]

Because the French realised that after you get to 69, there isn't much point in going any further :p ;)

Or maybe they always run out of ideas at that point? sixty-ten, n'est pas?
:roll:

[CyberDyneSystems]

er.. the French... :?

My Brother in laws name is Nguyen... (Viet Namese)

Many assume this is pronounced "gwen" or "nagoyen" etc...

In fact it is pronounced "Win" or "Wen"

I asked Nguyen once,. "I understand that you have a different language and a different alphabet, so things can get little muddled.. but it's a proper name,. so why when it was "translated" into English using the Roman alphabet,. why did it end up so messed up?"

His answer?

"The French"

[CoolToolGuy]

Not to get into bashing or anything, but the French do have one thing on my life's to do list - a little town named Le Mans - they have a little sports car race there every year. But right after the race, I think I would get outa Dodge in a hurry... :wink:

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Rick 8)

[defordphoto]

How many E's are in this thread?

[w10d]

- a little town named Le Mans - they have a little sports car race there every year. But right after the race, I think I would get outa Dodge in a hurry... :wink:

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Rick 8)

I wish I could have gone to that when it really was a 'little' sportscar race - when a team prize could be won with a little Triumph Spitfire...

This has turned into a lens(e) thread with a difference - at last :wink:

[kraterz]

Ah... hence the scattering of "Ye Olde Tea Shoppe"s in tourist areas. I understand! ;)
Shouldn't that be "Teaeae" shop?

[CoolToolGuy]

- a little town named Le Mans - they have a little sports car race there every year. But right after the race, I think I would get outa Dodge in a hurry... :wink:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

I wish I could have gone to that when it really was a 'little' sportscar race - when a team prize could be won with a little Triumph Spitfire...

This has turned into a lens(e) thread with a difference - at last :wink:

hehe - I made it to Europe twice, been to the Nurburgring, Hockenheim, and Spa, but I haven't made it to Le Mans in June. A friend of mine was going to Le Mans several years ago 1984 and he asked me about getting around in Europe, etc. I basically advised him as I said here - go to the race, then book as fast as you can to Germany where the locals at least pretend to like you. But he insisted that he wanted to see France. When he got back, I asked him how everything went, and he told me that he was so miserable trying to get around France and dealing with the rude Frogs that he tried to come home early. But he took a charter flight, and there was no way to reschedule the return. So I asked him if it was so bad, why didn't he do as I suggested. He said he kept hoping it would get better, and by the time he realized it wouldn't, there wasn't enough time to get there and back for the return. :shock:

Times change, and YMMV :roll:

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Rick 8)

[drisley]

Also, is it "sync" or "synch"?

I say it's "sync".

Isn't "synch" a word that means "easy", like "it's a synch"

:wink:

[CoolToolGuy]

Also, is it "sync" or "synch"?

I say it's "sync".

Isn't "synch" a word that means "easy", like "it's a synch"

:wink:

I think you mean a 'cinch'.

I think synch is is correct (with a :wink: )

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Rick 8)

[drisley]

Yes, you are correct about cinch.

But just like lens, I often see both spellings, sync, and synch, everywhere!
I guess both words are just shortened versions of synchronize, so I guess they are both right.

It's just that when I see that "h" added at the end, it looks like it should sound like the word you mentioned, cinch.

[Sketcher]

How many E's are in this thread?

I count 1,382 E's prior to mry post (Sidebar member info, signatures, web page headers and function buttons not included.

[roanjohn]

So "lens" it is!!!

I can deal with the extra "e"...............

but wouldn't it be great if they add an extra "L"??

As the saying goes - When it comes to lenses, you can never have too much "L".:twisted:

Ro1

[defordphoto]

How many E's are in this thread?

I count 1,382 E's prior to mry post (Sidebar member info, signatures, web page headers and function buttons not included.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I was wondering if anyone would actually count them!

[defordphoto]

Yes, you are correct about cinch.

But just like lens, I often see both spellings, sync, and synch, everywhere!
I guess both words are just shortened versions of synchronize, so I guess they are both right.

It's just that when I see that "h" added at the end, it looks like it should sound like the word you mentioned, cinch.

It's cinch as in easy. Sync or Synch is for synchronous, synchronicity.

[chris.bailey]

Perhaps its lense if it has a red ring on it or lens if not

:lol: :lol: :lol:

(flame suit on and zipped up)

[ilya]

LENSE

Because using the extra E makes me feel good.

[Belmondo]

Perhapse wee shoulde juste pute ane ee one thee ende ofe everythinge. Thate woulde certainlye cleare thingse upe.

Next, we teach people the difference between to, too, and two, there, their, and they're.

Also, nobody has yet told me the answer to a question I posted a few days ago.

What is the proper way to spell n00B?

[CyberDyneSystems]

Newb

Cause there New... :)

[ilya]

Perhapse wee shoulde juste pute ane ee one thee ende ofe everythinge. Thate woulde certainlye cleare thingse upe.

Next, we teach people the difference between to, too, and two, there, their, and they're.

Also, nobody has yet told me the answer to a question I posted a few days ago.

What is the proper way to spell n00B?

Yikes. I was just flexing my constitutional rights :shock:

The politically correct spelling for Noob is "factually unencumbered" :lol:

Addenda: I guess the abbreviated version is "FU" ... as in Welcome to all FUs or FUers :lol: :lol: :lol: (all - please note the smily faces)

[PacAce]

lens.

"lense" is just being greedy with letters, like "queue" why so many letters? The second "ue" is superfluous. There are whole villages in some parts of the world that don't have enough letters to round and here we are using them unnecessarily. It’s just conspicuous consumption and we should be ashamed of ourselves!

;)

Actually the first and the second "ue" are superflous. Just the letter "q" by itself should suffice, don't you think? :mrgreen: :lol:

[PacAce]

You want consonants? Go to Czechoslovakia.....

Can't! It doesn't exist anymore! :?

[PacAce]

Yes, you are correct about cinch.

But just like lens, I often see both spellings, sync, and synch, everywhere!
I guess both words are just shortened versions of synchronize, so I guess they are both right.

It's just that when I see that "h" added at the end, it looks like it should sound like the word you mentioned, cinch.

Actually, just like the word "ache", synch was spelled "synche" and pronounced with a K sound instead of the "ch" sound. However in the Great Vowel Shortage of 1614, they dropped the final "e" and spelled it as "synch". Of course, this confused the heck out of a lot of people since they kept thinking "cinch" so these people opted to drop the "h", too, so that they wouldn't be confused anymore. And that's how we ended up with both acceptable, but confusing, spellings. :D