2007 philly car show pics CC plz

[italypa99]

first time i have ever shot indoors like this let me know what you think

[italypa99]

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[joegolf68]

For me, the reflective lights, especially on the first couple just don't work. Makes the car look like it has the measels or something. Three and four have bad shadows.

Sorry, the whole group misses it for me.

[italypa99]

ok well how do you think i could improve or what could i do next time i shoot like this ?? like i said it was my first time shooting anything like this indoors

[joegolf68]

The great photos I see usually don't have many people n the background, it is all auto. Somehow, they find a spot to shoot where those overhead lights either add to the shot, or don't appear at all. Can you find a place to stand where those overhead lights don't show on the auto? Your shots also appear like you are just standing and taking the pics, whereas it might be better to get down low to the ground and shoot upwards, or get really high somehow. Just a few ideas. I have never tried to shoot at an auto show, but have seen others take some great shots. They would be the ones that I hope enter the thread and help you out. Even with the motorcycle, it seems more like just a snapshot done by someone standing there. You show the back railing and all. Looks like composition is where you should start putting more effort. Look at what the pros show, and try to imitate them. My two cents.

[mzad]

Looks like a good car show. I am no pro when it comes to these or any other type of photos but i do find that a little bit of playing around in photoshop always helps me overcome those busy backgrounds which are pretty much unavoidable when you have so many people trying to look at the cars at these events.

Here is a before and after of one of my attempts at a car show from about 12 months ago.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/mzad70/bulletb46x4.jpg (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/mzad70/bulletb46x4.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/mzad70/bullet1frame6x4.jpg (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/mzad70/bullet1frame6x4.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

[italypa99]

The great photos I see usually don't have many people n the background, it is all auto. Somehow, they find a spot to shoot where those overhead lights either add to the shot, or don't appear at all. Can you find a place to stand where those overhead lights don't show on the auto? Your shots also appear like you are just standing and taking the pics, whereas it might be better to get down low to the ground and shoot upwards, or get really high somehow. Just a few ideas. I have never tried to shoot at an auto show, but have seen others take some great shots. They would be the ones that I hope enter the thread and help you out. Even with the motorcycle, it seems more like just a snapshot done by someone standing there. You show the back railing and all. Looks like composition is where you should start putting more effort. Look at what the pros show, and try to imitate them. My two cents.


that makes sence ill have to try that next time it was just tough with all the ppl it was packed most of the time i had to push ppl out of the way to get any kinda pic lol but thanks for the feedback

[MitsuJDM]

I was just there last night :D didn't take my camera though. It's hard to take a good quality picture at a car show.

[LexGS3]

Look at what the pros show, and try to imitate them. My two cents.

Just wanted to note most pro's shooting at Auto Shows have passes to get in and hour or more ahead of everyone else hence the nice clean backrounds etc.

--Pete

[joegolf68]

Just wanted to note most pro's shooting at Auto Shows have passes to get in and hour or more ahead of everyone else hence the nice clean backrounds etc.

--Pete

That makes sense. Maybe they also are able to play with the lighting some also which would make a big difference. As I said, I am a nobody rookie photog myself, but for better or worse, I am willing to give an opinion. Maybe I shouldn't, since I don't really have an adequate background from which to be a critic. I think the OP has done great, especially with having an open mind and being so willing to listen to different points of views. My best is that he will get better every time and really be good soon.

[-MasterChief-]

im no expert, but i dont think there's any way to avoid the overhead lights. theres tons of them and other than shooting at wheel level, there's just no way!

here are a few i shot from the washington auto show.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=269642

[gdrMatt]

the press day was on Friday morning... it was closed to the public...

[italypa99]

yea it was really hard to get a good shot i thought a few came out not bad but out of 117 pics didnt like a lot of them i was looking at a wide angle lens for shooting like that what do you think about the 17-40 L?

[emtp563]

yea it was really hard to get a good shot i thought a few came out not bad but out of 117 pics didnt like a lot of them i was looking at a wide angle lens for shooting like that what do you think about the 17-40 L?

Hey Italy, I was at the Philly show yesterday. The overhead lights reflecting on the cars are IMPOSSIBLE to avoid. The only thing you or I can do is to clone them out in PhotoShop. I, Personally do not have time to do that for 200 pics.

Using AWB worked fine, as long as the car was grey. The WB on your Mercedes is perfect, but is slightly off on the Lambo. Compare my pic with yours, I shot RAW and adjusted WB later in PP. See the white sign on the stand behind the Lambo, I used that for the WB for most of the cars in that room.

Here is the same car at the same show, only taken by me:

http://velocycle.smugmug.com/photos/128198097-L.jpg

Here is your pic:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=144353&stc=1&d=1170562060

If you want to see my gallery of the show, here it is: http://velocycle.smugmug.com/gallery/2444312#128194540

As for the 17-40L, it would be fine. Maybe you should also consider an UWA lens. I used the Sigma 10-22mm Ultra-Wide for all of my shots there.

[italypa99]

now did you use a flash ?? because i did not use one that might be why your pic was a little better and the angle i like you pic the angle looks better i just did not have any mobility at all

[emtp563]

No, no flash on any of the car show pics. There was already enough glare on the cars from the overhead lights- the flash just added to the glare. I went with ISO 1600 with no flash.

[italypa99]

hey how do you like your 30d from the 350 that is what i was looking at getting the 30d is it worth it ? im not gettin it right away but i would like maybee in the summer but i just like the feel of it and i hear its got nicer features

[emtp563]

I upgraded from the 350D. It's a wonderful upgrade. Worth every cent. I still have the 350D, whenever I handle it, it feels like a toy. I shoot primarily sports, so I got the 30D. I could have really used a 5D for the show, though. I've been doing a lot of indoor stuff- portraits mainly over the dead of Winter. I'm going to get the 5D this Fall I think.

[lilbill08]

I went to the philly car show today... lighting is a b**** for sure! Especially in the "dub" room... I guess it is the atmosphere in there though. But on the main floors sometimes the lighting just isn't right. Then again, it is a convention center, not a car show center designed for photographers.

Did anyone here eat at the R. Terminal for lunch? Carman's makes good subs/sandwiches.

[italypa99]

yea its bad there i almost went back with my new 30D and 17-40L but i didnt feel like it lol

[da_teacher]

It's tough with a lot of ppl but with clever angles and a little patience, you can almost eliminate ppl out of your shots. I actually don't mind using a flash but when I return to SEMA this year, I'll probably do without the flash and bring along something a lot wider but with some zoom--I don't only take pictures of cars if you know what I'm saying!

These were taken with a 350D w/ a 28-135 IS back in November @ SEMA. Now that's one crowded show! No PP done...straight out of camera, just resized.

http://i7.tinypic.com/2mdlbfq.jpg

http://i9.tinypic.com/2eydqi9.jpg

[bobinatcat]

It's tough with a lot of ppl but with clever angles and a little patience, you can almost eliminate ppl out of your shots. I actually don't mind using a flash but when I return to SEMA this year, I'll probably do without the flash and bring along something a lot wider but with some zoom--I don't only take pictures of cars if you know what I'm saying!

These were taken with a 350D w/ a 28-135 IS back in November @ SEMA. Now that's one crowded show! No PP done...straight out of camera, just resized.

http://i7.tinypic.com/2mdlbfq.jpg

http://i9.tinypic.com/2eydqi9.jpg

love the first one...


you dont normally see wrx's / sti's in that colour. had a lot done to it too from the looks of it.

[emtp563]

The lighting wasn't that bad- I got pretty good results there without a flash.

[italypa99]

yea i used the 28-135IS also i got some good shots it was just hard to get trying to push ppl out of the way i just have to find a better time to go like early when they first open or somthing before ppl get there