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Panza
5th of February 2007 (Mon), 02:56
I'm wondering which picture settings to use on the 1D MK2 to replicate the default picture style settings on the 5d the closest. Any ideas ?

cdifoto
5th of February 2007 (Mon), 02:58
I thought both cameras used Picture Styles. :confused:

Lani Kai
5th of February 2007 (Mon), 03:08
Only the 1D MkII N has PictureStyles
I just shoot RAW and apply them in PP...

cdifoto
5th of February 2007 (Mon), 03:44
Only the 1D MkII N has PictureStyles
I just shoot RAW and apply them in PP...

From dpreview.com about the 5D (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05082209canoneos5d.asp):

New Picture Style pre-sets simplify in-camera control over image quality. Delivering more immediately usable JPEG images straight out of the camera without need for post-production, Picture Style pre-sets can be likened to different film types – each one offering a different colour response. Within each easily selectable pre-set, photographers have control over sharpness, contrast, colour tone and saturation.
The pre-sets include:

Standard – for crisp, vivid images that don’t require post-processing;
Portrait – optimises colour tone and saturation and weakens sharpening to achieve attractive skin tones;
Landscape – for deep greens and blues with stronger sharpening to give a crisp edge to mountain, tree and building outlines);
Neutral – ideal for post-processing;
Faithful – adjusts colour to match the subject colour when shot under a colour temperature of 5200K;
Monochrome – for black and white shooting with a range of filter effects (yellow, orange, red and green) and toning effects (sepia, blue, purple and green)


From dpreview.com about the 1D IIn (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05082208canoneos1dmkiin.asp):

New Picture Style pre-sets simplify in-camera control over image quality. The camera’s factory default configuration delivers more immediately usable JPEG images without need for additional menu settings. Picture Style pre-sets can be likened to different film types – each one offering a different colour response. Within each easily selectable pre-set, photographers have control over sharpness, contrast, colour tone and saturation.
The pre-sets include:

Standard – for crisp, vivid images that don’t require post-processing;
Portrait – optimises colour tone and saturation and weakens sharpening to achieve attractive skin tones;
Landscape – for punchier greens and blues with stronger sharpening to give a crisp edge to mountain, tree and building outlines);
Neutral – ideal for post-processing;
Faithful – adjusts colour to match the subject colour when shot under a colour temperature of 5200K;
Monochrome – for black and white shooting with a range of filter effects (yellow, orange, red and green) and toning effects (sepia, blue, purple and green).

Panza
5th of February 2007 (Mon), 05:12
It is not the N I have..

To simplify the question: What do you set Sharpness, contrast and curve to to replicate the 5D default.
i ask this because the default of the 5D and 1D MK2 is very different IMO and I liked the 5D settings.

cdifoto
5th of February 2007 (Mon), 05:16
What special "N" do you have then? Assuming RAW, with both having picture styles you should be able to simple choose the same picture style and when you open in DPP the same settings will be applied.

If you don't open them in DPP then the picture styles are moot.

Assuming JPEG, the same processing should, in theory, be applied to both.

As far as I know there is no "Default" Picture Style. There is a "Neutral" and a "Standard" but no "Default".

Panza
5th of February 2007 (Mon), 07:20
I don't have the N. I have the small-screen MK2.

By default setting I mean the factory setting.

Mark_Cohran
5th of February 2007 (Mon), 07:29
I tihnk you're going to have to experiment to determine it for yourself. It's such an unusual question that I sincerely doubt that anyone is going to be able to answer for you. It assumes that the responder will have both a 1DMKII and a 5D - which is probably a rare situation, and that for some reason they would have wanted to replicate the look of the 5D JPG on their 1D JPGs. And that, my friend, is probably an even rarer condition.

Good luck, though.

Mark

Panza
5th of February 2007 (Mon), 07:36
You got a point there Mark.
I just assumed someone on here would have tried it already , but when I think of it it's not that many that have both.

And sadly I had to trade the 5D to get the MK2, so I only have old pictures from the 5D to compare with. It would probably have been a lot easier having the cameras alongside each other and just shooting the same thing and changing the MK2 setting until the pictures where close enough.

cdifoto
5th of February 2007 (Mon), 08:05
I don't have the N. I have the small-screen MK2.

By default setting I mean the factory setting.

Wow huge oops on my part. Sorry about that! You can work backwards though. Open up a 5D RAW image set to your parameters of choice in DPP. Then see what contrast/sharpness, etc are applied on the RAW tab without doing anything. Then try to match up those settings on the 1D.

Panza
6th of February 2007 (Tue), 00:25
Wow huge oops on my part. Sorry about that! You can work backwards though. Open up a 5D RAW image set to your parameters of choice in DPP. Then see what contrast/sharpness, etc are applied on the RAW tab without doing anything. Then try to match up those settings on the 1D.

No problem. Easy to overlook.

The problem with your very good suggestion is that I shoot only JPG. Guess I should have shot som RAW just for doing it.