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gail
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 02:11
I've seen this done to photo's. But I don't know how to go about doing it. So thought I might ask here. In this photo I seen it was like in B/W then some of the color was brought back.

I wanting to do this to a photo I have but can't figure it out in PS. Can someone tell me how to go about doing this in PS and how it's done. Thanks :D

The photo I seen was like of a rose and the background was in black-white and the rose was in color. :?

c0ntr0lz
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 02:55
are you starting with a black and white or are you starting with color?
here is a pic of my mom, aunt and uncle that i did a few years back.
http://ctrlzproduction.com/images/graphics/wallies/momjoeandglinda.jpg

it's a B&W and I colored everything you see in. What you have to do is to create a 2nd layer on top of the orginal. There are several was of doing this. If you haven't used photoshop alot, I'd say to use a plain paintbrush set the Opacity down to about 15%-30% and paint in what you like.

There are better was to do it, but they are a bit better harder to do and would need you to need a tablet. good luck it's not an eZ task.

Shakey
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 02:57
I don't use adobe I use corel but here is how I have done it. This is the easy way Mask area to be kept in color desaturate the rest un mask and Ta da.

Or more elaborate, mask off area to be kept in color make it another object /or layer in adobe I think .then convert rest of picture using your best Black and white conversion .convert back to 24 colors and put your masked part back into photo.

Hard for me to relate to adobe terms.
Here is a simple desaturate

http://shakey.smugmug.com/photos/2385898-M.jpg

Starting with a color photo. Here I lasso'ed the eye inverted the mask desaturated, undid the mask and there it was.

gail
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 03:34
Thanks for the help. It's B/W photo of us kids back years ago and I want to try and put some color in it. I know it want be easy, I had this photo restored years back it was in pretty bad shape when I got it.

It cost me lots to get it restored. And at that time I ask about having it done in colored and it was going to cost me like another $200.00 more to have it done in colored so I said leave it original just take the tears out of it.

I just thought it would be fun to have it in colored and give my sisters and brother a copy in color. But when they told me the price to have it done in color I said "for-get-it" LOL.

But thanks again for yall's help. maybe I will give it a try and see what I can do with it.

And btw...c0ntr0lz, I was amazed--- by your photo that's very nicely done. Beautiful, love the way you put the color in it. very good job indeed
I know your proud of that one. Thanks for sharing, :P

c0ntr0lz
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 04:10
thank you very much
and i hope you have fun
holler if you need help

gail
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 05:04
Here's the picture I'm wanting to color in,
It's not that good of picture when they restored it they didn't do very good
job on it they had to piece a lot of it together it was torned up pretty bad.
witch I guess they did the best they could with what they had to work with.

On the left my sister her eye was missing in the original and guess they had to make her eye as you can see it looks funny.

But was going to try and make the best of it with what I have. This is a very old picture. It was taken 37 years back. And it was handed down from this one and that. And when I got it when I got older it was in bad shape.

So what do you think? Do you think it can be colored in, Is it fixable?
To where it will look right when it's printed.


http://photos.imageevent.com/gailsgallery/familyalbum/websize/us%20kids.JPG

dewmuw
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 05:18
The picture below was taken 50 years ago (my mum and dad's wedding day) and although only selectively coloured I hope it shows what can happen. I am a photoshop novice. By the way when I presented it to my mum and dad, mum said "my flowers were pink". But I think she liked it really!

http://www.pbase.com/image/24368512.jpg

gail
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 05:57
I really like that I bet she did love it. That is so neat how you can do that put color in an old photograph. How did you do it was it hard? Did you just color the flowers in? That is so neat, Great photo. :D

I'm working on the one above,, But it's not turning out to good.
I can't get the colors right. I don't remember what color we all had on that day.

I know it was an Easter, picture.

And I was told that I had red on but don't know about the others. Looks like to me they had on light colors. I'm just kind of guessing LOL.

c0ntr0lz
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 06:02
i'd make it a true B&W and then getting to coloring
i think it can be done
it looks like it will come out ok

dewmuw
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 06:04
I really like that I bet she did love it. That is so neat how you can do that put color in an old photograph. How did you do it was it hard? Did you just color the flowers in? That is so neat, Great photo. :D

I'm working on the one above,, But it's not turning out to good.
I can't get the colors right. I don't remember what color we all had on that day.

I know it was an Easter, picture.

And I was told that I had red on but don't know about the others. Looks like to me they had on light colors. I'm just kind of guessing LOL.

Yes - just a case of colouring in (like I used to do when I was 5 years old) using a small sized brush and zooming in.

As for colours - will anyone remember what the colours were? I'd just go for colours that look right and don't stand out as too vibrant or modern. I guess 37 years ago the world hadn't been introduced to neon green and orange clothes! :D

Rather than colour the whole picture have you considered just picking out some details?

G3owner
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 06:31
I have never done this kind of stuff before (have worked quite a lot with PaintShop Pro though). Here is a very fast first try on this. Took me less than 10 minutes...

http://g3.myownsite.org/ColoringTest.jpg

It sure can be done. You would need to know more about the original colors on dresses, hair etc. to make it fit your personal memories...

G3owner

gail
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 07:04
I have never done this kind of stuff before (have worked quite a lot with PaintShop Pro though). Here is a very fast first try on this. Took me less than 10 minutes...

http://g3.myownsite.org/ColoringTest.jpg

It sure can be done. You would need to know more about the original colors on dresses, hair etc. to make it fit your personal memories...

G3owner


Wow....I love it that it great. That's what I'm looking for just the way you did it. Well you did pretty good job to me not to have never did it before.
So give me some tips on how to go about doing it.
Just use small brush, and how did you get the skin tone to look like that?
and did you color the eyes also? that is very nice.
Wonderful Job! Thanks
:lol:

G3owner
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 07:27
Wow....I love it that it great. That's what I'm looking for just the way you did it. Well you did pretty good job to me not to have never did it before.
So give me some tips on how to go about doing it.
Just use small brush, and how did you get the skin tone to look like that?
and did you color the eyes also? that is very nice.
Wonderful Job! Thanks
:lol:


I am using Paintshop Pro 8, but corresponding functions surely exist in Photoshop...

Started by making it a pure grayscale photo, and then increased colors back to 16 millions to be able to color it.

I did a mask of the face, excluding the eyes, with 3 pixels feather and 3 pixels smooth. Promoted that mask to a layer and made it transparent (opacity ca 40 %).

Used an airbrush (not too small), slightly transparent and with soft edges, and painted the face almost completely with a colour of 220,131,82. Then added variation in coloring on the cheeks etc. using a smaller airbrush of 220,111,82.

Then a new mask for the lips, promote it to a transparent layer, airbrush using a darker red.

The same for the hair, skirt and other details. Select very soft and natural nuances of the colors - I think it looks better if the photo is slightly 'undercoloured'. The colors in old photographs are faint anyway...

Finally you can adjust the transparency for each layer to make it look nice. And when youre satisfied you merge all the layers and save your final version.

I suggest you save each mask separately to disk using separate names - then it is much easier to go back and make corrections later! Save your work often using new filenames - makes it easier to go back when you make mistakes...

Give it a go, and please, show us the results! :D

G3owner

walkien
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 12:37
I used the curve layers in PS 7

http://images.fotopic.net/?id=3348363&outx=640&oq=0

gail
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 13:21
Could you tell me the steps you did in PhotoShop?
So how do I go about doing it. Do I use the lasso tool and select an area and then go to curves to do what?

I know I got to color it in but I can't find the right colors. The one's I pick for the skin tones I can't seem to get right. I think everything else looks ok, just the skin tones.

I made everyone really look like ghost. I did one but really "embarrassed" :oops: to post it here. I know it's not good But, I tried. Guess it takes some getting use to painting in the faces. And finding the right color for them.

Well I will post but don't be to hard on me. Please ... :oops:
You alls looks so good compared to mine. Thanks everyone for the help.

http://photos.imageevent.com/gailsgallery/familyalbum/websize/us%20kidscolored.jpg

walkien
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 17:30
here's another one. the original picture is too small, it's hard to color all the little detail area(eyes, lips, teeth....)


http://images.fotopic.net/?id=3352195&outx=640&oq=0

gail
18th of March 2004 (Thu), 20:02
Aweeee that is beautiful, I love it. You are really good with your work.
Hope one day I can do just half as good as you.

Love the colorers you put them together well. I'm really embarrass :oops: by mine now after seeing that.
Good Work...

Could you share with me how you did this?
are you using PhotoShop? Maybe if I had step by step I could figure it out. May BE....LOL.

c0ntr0lz
19th of March 2004 (Fri), 00:15
just practice
do it several times and then when you get to the point where you think it's where you want it then you're done

those look good by the way

shelbix2020
19th of March 2004 (Fri), 00:21
Im taking a photoshop class and I learned for B&W to color you want to make a layer above the B&W image and set the blending mode to "color" and do what it looks like youve been doing ... color with the paint brush at a low opacity. Making a new layer with the color blending mode allows for much more detail to show through the color you paint with.

my .02c

walkien
19th of March 2004 (Fri), 00:44
there're many different ways to do this.
The first thing you need to do is clean up, dust, scratches...etc. since you already did to the picture, you saved some steps there already :D

here are the step I did

1. adjust the picture in "level" manually (try not to use Auto Level)

2. change the image mode to CMYK (Click Image>mode>CMYK color)****this step is very important, it won't work if you don't do this****

3. Use whatever selection tool you like to select all the skin area of the person but not including eyes, mouth. (let start with the person on the left first).

4. Now go into "quick mask" mode (hit the 'q' key), this will turn anything that you didn't select pink, and your brush palette will turn to white and black, now you can edit it just like any regular mask, use a brush to reveals those hard to select edges.(white to reveals, black to erase), after you use the brush tool to reveals all the skin area you want, the only thing that should not be pink is the skin,then apply a Gaussian blur to the quickmask (about 3 pixels), now hit the 'q' key again to get out of quick mask mode.

5. Now you have all the skin area selected, click Layer > New Adjustmnet Layer > Curve name this layer as 'left girl skin' and click 'group with previous', this will bring up the curve dialog box, and it will add a layer to your layers palette.

6. click the channel drop down menu on top of the curve dialog box and adjust each color curve to the color tone you like.

now, repeat step 3 to 6 to color the eyes, then lips, hair... one thing at a time. so you have different adjustment layer for each body part (skin, eyes, lips, hair....) I have about 12 layers to the picture I did above.

I hope that I'm not confused you, good luck. let me know if you have any problem. :lol:

G3owner
19th of March 2004 (Fri), 00:46
Walkien's version looks very very good. And Gail, your version - have you been aibrushing directly on the photo layer or on a separate, transparent layer? It's important to put the colors on separate layers, otherwise you will distort the original image details... Some details in the faces have changed and that's probably because you have been airbrushing directly on the background layer?

No need to be embarrassed - we all start somewhere. We all need practice and becoming acquainted with the tools before we can produce satisfying results!

G3owner

gail
19th of March 2004 (Fri), 02:04
Yes I was airburshing on the one layer never made layers didn't know I had to sorry. Now I do I will give that a try. Guess that's where I'm doing wrong. Thanks... Let me give it a try and I will post the results. Thanks :) Gail,

larsesp
19th of March 2004 (Fri), 07:24
Yes I was airburshing on the one layer never made layers didn't know I had to sorry. Now I do I will give that a try. Guess that's where I'm doing wrong. Thanks... Let me give it a try and I will post the results. Thanks :) Gail,

Hi all,

Here is a link to an instruction QuickTime Videofile. It's very good!!

Right click - Save as...

http://www.alpine-ski.com/0914_-_Handtinting_Effects.mov


/L

gail
19th of March 2004 (Fri), 11:18
Yes I was airburshing on the one layer never made layers didn't know I had to sorry. Now I do I will give that a try. Guess that's where I'm doing wrong. Thanks... Let me give it a try and I will post the results. Thanks :) Gail,

Hi all,

Here is a link to an instruction QuickTime Videofile. It's very good!!

Right click - Save as...

http://www.alpine-ski.com/0914_-_Handtinting_Effects.mov


/L


Hi larsesp,
Thanks for the link it was very useful really help me to understand it better. Now maybe I can get to work LOL. Still going to take me some getting use too. But I can work on it and practice a lot.
Thanks, :) Gail

JoseC
19th of March 2004 (Fri), 13:00
I used the curve layers in PS 7

http://images.fotopic.net/?id=3348363&outx=640&oq=0
You did an amazing job walkien.
I dont ask you how you dit it because I do not have PS 7 :( otherwise I
would have tried also myself to colorize some old pictures.
Best Regards
Jose