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MediaMagic
19th of March 2004 (Fri), 14:58
Okay, this morning was the first day of sun here in a while. I stopped by this trail to scope out some cool shots (camera was at home) and I couldn't believe the amount of freakin' litter.

What the hell is the matter with people? Now, I know the litterers were not photographers. They are lazy idiots, apathetic scum of human beings. Pathetic genetic refuse of mutated DNA. How hard is it to just use the damn trash cans? And if there are no trash facilities available, if you carry it in then by god you carry it out. It's pretty simple.

I have a rule that I follow whether it's a hike in the woods or camping, or whatever. "Leave the area at least one step better than the way you found it." Whether it's picking up a stray can or fixing a toppled sign, we can all do one simple thing above and beyond the common sense of picking up after ourselves (although if the damn morons would just do the common sense thing, the rest of us wouldn't need to go the extra step to keep our areas beautiful).

Well, that's my vent of the day.. I just can't believe how little people are willing to do when no one is watching...

Scottes
19th of March 2004 (Fri), 15:30
I agree wholeheartedly. Stupid crap like that just drives me crazy. You brought it in, why the hell can't you bring it out?

Pathetic genetic refuse of mutated DNA.

There's a lot out there.
:evil:

shelbix2020
22nd of March 2004 (Mon), 04:32
lol in some parts of the mountains Ive been too you have to pack out EVERY thing you pack in and leave NOTHING! ... yes I mean NOTHING!
... in case you still dont get it, I mean pack up your crap :shock:

JZaun
22nd of March 2004 (Mon), 10:29
I totally agree..we have so many uncaring people now days.

Back packing one time a few years ago I was aprox 10 miles from the nearest road and stoped to rest. Just under the fall leaves I found an Budwiser can :twisted:



JZaun

CyberDyneSystems
22nd of March 2004 (Mon), 12:07
This is getting worse with every passing year, we are right back to where we were in the late '60s with human behavior towards this planet...

All the effort and brainwashing about recycling and protecting the environment of the late '70s and early 80's is gone. (remember how HUGE it was when McDonald's fianlly abandoned the styrofoam BigMac boxes???)

It truly makes me sick to my stomache

Scottes
22nd of March 2004 (Mon), 12:40
This is getting worse with every passing year, we are right back to where we were in the late '60s with human behavior towards this planet...

Exactly!

I think we need to bring back commercials with the Indian (Native American) crying at all the litter in the stream. I thought those were great.

garethhhhh
22nd of March 2004 (Mon), 12:46
In the last month I've had to Photoshop 8 images just to get rid of rubbish & the like.
I'm getting aggravated... :evil:

IndyJeff
22nd of March 2004 (Mon), 13:12
Ours has become a disposable society. Throw away lighters, flashlights, pop bottles, beer bottles etc. All this is adding up to one thing, full landfills.

I always pick up my trash, no matter if at the race track or camping at our campground. Of course at the campground as much as possible is burned but, cans, bottles, plastic etc goes in a bag and is hauled home for Mr. Sanitation Engineer.

Tom W
22nd of March 2004 (Mon), 13:52
I'm with y'all - that's always been the rule as long as I remember. Take home "whatcha brung" (or maybe that was "dance with who you brought").

Anyway, I don't know if its worse today or not, but the problem is most assuredly there and its bad. It only takes a few people to make a big mess of things. Maybe as photographic-minded people, we're more cognizant of the problem, I don't know. All I know is that its hard to get a shot in some areas without getting someone's wrapper, can or other junk in it.

IndyJeff
22nd of March 2004 (Mon), 16:05
You want to see a trash filled shot, I'll shoot one after the Indy 500 of the turn 3 infield. That will make anyone's alley look like a clean park.

Tom W
22nd of March 2004 (Mon), 16:37
You aren't kidding there - I bet that the whole city of Indianapolis is a mess after Memorial Day weekend!

CyberDyneSystems
22nd of March 2004 (Mon), 17:43
This is getting worse with every passing year, we are right back to where we were in the late '60s with human behavior towards this planet...

Exactly!

I think we need to bring back commercials with the Indian (Native American) crying at all the litter in the stream. I thought those were great.

I was young child when that advertisement was aired.. and the impact on me WAS HUGE!

And it truly was the beginning of the very campaighn I was speaking of.. every year of my life,. things got better untill the early '90s when ecologically we took a turn for the worse.. the most visible sign was the return of Gas guzzlers in the form of SUVs. The Lincoln Navigator gets worse gas milage than a 1969 Cadilac!

mikesd
25th of March 2004 (Thu), 11:50
Have to agree with everyone about the problem getting worse! I am a municipal park super. and we spend a couple of hours every morning picking up trash from the evening before. Really no use complaining as Bruce Hornsby said, Thats Just the Way it is, just dont understand.

TechKnowBabble
25th of March 2004 (Thu), 11:56
I think we need to bring back commercials with the Indian (Native American) crying at all the litter in the stream. I thought those were great.

I agree completely, everytime I watched it I almost cried myself. It's sad we've become such a completely self-centered, lazy culture. Plus (I'm wandering off the topic here) I'm ashamed to say I live in Maryland, because everytime there is a MD Terps game the fans riot regardless of the outcome. Very very sad the things that happen everyday around us.

Nikki

Laziferous
27th of March 2004 (Sat), 23:07
Yeah, Baltimore is filthy. I hate this place sometimes... other times I think it's the greatest though. Eh.. *shrugs*

I totally agree with everyone. I guess since we are photographers here, we all have a common interest in the beauty of our surroundings. It really is a shame when people disregard their very own environment, out of shear selfishness.

See... this is why I prefer animals over people :?

MediaMagic
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 01:53
See... this is why I prefer animals over people :?

Now there's a sentiment with which I wholeheartedly agree. I'll take animals over people any day. Well, I'll keep the wife.. but the rest can be animals. Oh, and other photographers are okay too.. but other than THOSE! :P

Moses
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 14:41
Watch the Crying Indian Commercial (http://boss.streamos.com/real/adcouncil/historical/pollution_tv_indian_in_canoe_30_rp.smi?siteid=aef)


January 4, 1999
Web posted at: 8:52 p.m. EST (0152 GMT)
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Iron Eyes Cody, the "Crying Indian" whose tearful face in 1970s television commercials became a powerful symbol of the anti-littering campaign, died Monday. He was in his 80s or early 90s.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9901/04/obit.cody/eyes.jpg

Cody died of natural causes at 1:30 p.m. PST in his home in the Los Feliz section of Los Angeles, police spokesman Ed Funes said.

Cody, whose acting credits date back to silent movies and include dozens of films and television shows, was best known for the ads from the group Keep America Beautiful that showed him shedding a single tear as he watched people litter.

He was born in Oklahoma, but the exact date of birth wasn't known. Reference books give various dates, from 1904 to 1915. Based on his credits, his most likely date of birth was 1907.

Cody followed his Cherokee Indian father, Thomas Long Plume, as a performer in circuses and Wild West shows and made his first film appearance as an extra in the 1919 silent "Back to God's Country."

Cody went on to appear in more than 80 films in Indian roles; often his character was listed as simply "Indian," "Indian Chief" or "Indian Joe." In one film, "Perils of Nyoka" in 1942, he had an uncredited role as "Arab."

His other credits included "Sitting Bull" in 1954, "The Great Sioux Massacre" in 1965, "Nevada Smith" in 1966, "A Man Called Horse" in 1970 and "Ernest Goes to Camp" in 1987.

Cody also served as a technical adviser on Native American matters in films.

In television, he had guest appearances on "Bonanza," "Gunsmoke" and "Rawhide."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

CyberDyneSystems
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 15:05
Wow.... :(

Thanks for that info Moses...

"Iron Eyes"... how perfect ...

It Mentions the old "wild west" shows,. and his Family had adopted the name "Cody".. I wonder if his Father worked In "Buffalo Bill" Cody's Wild West show? There was also Colonel Samuel Cody,. who worked with Buffalo Bill before taking up flying and designing kites...

Canuck
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 17:19
I too am rather irritated buy yobs as they are known over here (or hoodlems on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean). I have many times wanted to check out the insides of the churches here as a lot of them are from the medieval time and some Saxon (Dark Ages, 300-900AD approx) ones are still about. One comes to mind, in Brixworth in Northamptonshire (NHants) that is Saxon dating to 680AD. Just to put this in perspective, it was standing for a few years short of 1100 years when the US declared indpendence from England, 4th July 1776. I went up to go check it out as I have been intrigued by Romanesque, Norman, and Gothic architecture and was wondering what Saxon architecture was like. Well it was locked. That was a real bummer! I go by the "Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints" and that has served me well so far. Another such church in NHants, in Grafton Underwood we had to sign out a key to go inside. Only think I am going to ever do it take pics and be in awe and appreciate it. It truly amazes me that they did this stuff w/o cranes as we know them and suchlike.

Lamplight
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 20:55
The Lincoln Navigator gets worse gas milage than a 1969 Cadilac!

And it doesn't even look as cool! 8):D

CyberDyneSystems
29th of March 2004 (Mon), 10:57
The Lincoln Navigator gets worse gas milage than a 1969 Cadilac!

And it doesn't even look as cool! 8):D

NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!!

....and the 1969 with it's 472 CI V8 and irresponsible amount of horse power and low end torque will blast down a quarter mile a lot faster! (while getting better milage!)

Moses
3rd of April 2004 (Sat), 19:40
I was always adamant about buying American until about 1996 when I finally got tired of my American cars falling apart. That's when I went to Toyota Camry and haven't looked back since.

Canuck
3rd of April 2004 (Sat), 20:08
I was always adamant about buying American until about 1996 when I finally got tired of my American cars falling apart. That's when I went to Toyota Camry and haven't looked back since.

When us Americans start making better cars, and prove it, I will go back to American cars. Until then, I have gone elsewhere for car manufacturers like Germany (BMW), Sweden (Volvo/Saab), Japan (Honda/Toyota) and UK (Lotus). Ok, so that last one I was dreaming, but we all can dream can't we? Although on a smaller scale, anyone that has a Toyota MR2 Mk I essentially has a Lotus...it was a Lotus car till Lotus decided not to go on with it, sold the blueprints to Toyota and Toyota made the MR2. And you wonder why it looks very Lotus like, now you know.

pradeep1
5th of April 2004 (Mon), 17:33
Okay, this morning was the first day of sun here in a while. I stopped by this trail to scope out some cool shots (camera was at home) and I couldn't believe the amount of freakin' litter.

What the hell is the matter with people? Now, I know the litterers were not photographers. They are lazy idiots, apathetic scum of human beings. Pathetic genetic refuse of mutated DNA. How hard is it to just use the damn trash cans? And if there are no trash facilities available, if you carry it in then by god you carry it out. It's pretty simple.

I have a rule that I follow whether it's a hike in the woods or camping, or whatever. "Leave the area at least one step better than the way you found it." Whether it's picking up a stray can or fixing a toppled sign, we can all do one simple thing above and beyond the common sense of picking up after ourselves (although if the damn morons would just do the common sense thing, the rest of us wouldn't need to go the extra step to keep our areas beautiful).

Well, that's my vent of the day.. I just can't believe how little people are willing to do when no one is watching...

If you want to see messy, visit a third world country...ahem...developing nation. You will never complain about US pollution ever again. 8)

stoneylonesome
7th of April 2004 (Wed), 14:01
As far as litter is concerned I couldn't agree more, you bring it in you can take it out. I've seen a sign on some trail heads that I think says it all "take only pictures, leave only foot prints" that about sums it up...

John_T
7th of April 2004 (Wed), 16:35
I'm sorry to say I think it's only going to get worse. From what I observe littering is a way of saying "I don't give a damn about anybody, and particularly about anybody and any society that's gonna tell me what I should or should not do. Screw you!"

Right or wrong, people are getting fed up with their lives and their environment and actually get off on littering and defacing beautiful things and places to spite others. "If I can't have a beautiful and care-free life, well here, I'll screw yours." A perverse way of striking out or getting back at an obscure something they can't grasp or confront. Destructiveness and self destructiveness at the same time. If you take the risk of showing a litterer the way to a trashcan, you might get punched, cut or shot for your trouble, or at least a dirty look.

The other thing is that society's values are changing. Beauty is only valuable in terms of what you can get for it. The only things that are valuable are those that can be turned into money, fame or status. What costs money is valuable and respected. Anything that is free might be nice, but not valuable, nor worthy of respect. Nature is free.

I don't think there is anything conscious or deliberate about what is happening to people and their respect for nature, themselves and others. They are just drifting more and more that way without any particular interest or hope of change for the better. Nobody litters or destroys what they love or care for, so it must mean they are beyond loving and caring. Guilt, blame and condemnation will only harden people. Things will only change when people wake up and realize that littering, defacing, exploiting and destroying their environment is destroying themselves, directly and definitely.

I don't know where things are going or what its going to take, but something has gotta change. In the meantime, I can only watch me and change what I do.