1D Mk III specs in spanish blog

[Juan Zas]

It has appear some specs about de 1D MkIII in this spanish blog, coming from "credible sources":


Sensor 10,10 Mpx
Crop Factor 1.3 at 35mm
Dual processor DIGIC III
45 points of AF
10 fps
Antidust System
The source translated is available at:
http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dsmcomunicacion.net%2 Fblog%2F%3Fp%3D48&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8

For spanish readers:
http://www.dsmcomunicacion.net/blog/?p=48

POST EDITED: For your reference, the allusion to "Rappel" is for a famous spanish fortune-teller that make predictions and appears in summer time/magazines with a "leopard tanga swimming dress".

[homerdog]

Same here (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1032&message=22094214). :)

The original poster on DPR correctly predicted the 400D, 50 f1.2 and 70-200 f4 IS last year.

[blackshadow]

There don't seem to be enough goodies here to be a new model... not a huge upgrade over the current 1dM2N.
10.10 MP - hardly an earth shattering increase in resolution
10FPS - a small number of sports shooters may find this useful - I think most are satisfied with 8.5FPS
Antidust - nice idea but not exactly the type of thing to entice users to upgrade - i'm sure most users already keep their camera clean and are capable of keeping their sensor clean
Digic III - this is the great unknown... if it delivers better dynamic range and markedly less noise and allows for increased ISO that would be a major improvement - the other three new features mooted are just window dressing

I have a feeling we'll all know soon enough as it sounds like there is an imminent announcement coming up in the near future.

[farrukh]

There don't seem to be enough goodies here to be a new model... not a huge upgrade over the current 1dM2N.
10.10 MP - hardly an earth shattering increase in resolution
10FPS - a small number of sports shooters may find this useful - I think most are satisfied with 8.5FPS
Antidust - nice idea but not exactly the type of thing to entice users to upgrade - i'm sure most users already keep their camera clean and are capable of keeping their sensor clean
Digic III - this is the great unknown... if it delivers better dynamic range and markedly less noise and allows for increased ISO that would be a major improvement - the other three new features mooted are just window dressing

I have a feeling we'll all know soon enough as it sounds like there is an imminent announcement coming up in the near future.

Relax, Its too early to be decisive, just wait for full specs

[Juan Zas]

Yes, relax for the moment, it´s a partial relation but may be the goodies underneath are worth. If the sensor is of the new generation, full color and with low noise and you can go up to ISO3200 +, what?

[Rich_claypole]

Dual Digic III now that gives some major uuumph to the processing of the sensor data, maybe usable ISO 6400 could become a reality.

Roll on official announcment, my wallet is getting itchy!!

[Juan Zas]

Dual Digic III now that gives some major uuumph to the processing of the sensor data, maybe usable ISO 6400 could become a reality.

Roll on official announcment, my wallet is getting itchy!!

I think that dual DIGIC III could be related to split tasks; one Digic circuit used for AF system + may be something esle, and the other one to processing sensor data + exposition; in this way it will take care of the 45 AF points more efficently and fast.

[harryb49]

I think we are all salivating over DIGIC III and thinking that it will help with image quality, higher ISO usability, etc. but what if it's main function is faster processing of the images without decreasing noise as some other posters have stated.

[cdesperado]

If this is true, I am going to be rather disappointed.

1. I am hoping the 1D body line will merge into one camera, offering the best of both worlds with a few technical enhancements (FF, MkIIN shutter with 1Ds high rez, DIGIC III, faster and bigger buffer, etc)

This article does not specifically mention the Mark IIn by name, but if this rumor is true, then we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the 1D bodies will not be merged this year (which is a shame, really).

2. The 1Ds Mark II is currently full frame and the 1D Mark IIN is 1.3; why in the world would Canon not have developed a FF body for this camera line by now? The MkIIN was supposed to be a minor upgrade.... Keeping the same 1.3 crop factor that was provided on the original 1D (released in September 2001 !!!!) simply doesn't make sense to me.

3. At 10.1 million megapixels?- I agree with Black - That is disappointing. An extra 1 million mp (and change) just isn't enough to motivate me to spend the money on this camera.

DIGIC III should be a given by this point, but "anti-dust technology" bores me. Maybe it's just me, but this seems like another minor upgrade to this camera series. I've been thinking that the next generation(s) of the 1D series would be earth-shatteringly amazing, but this just seems like another minor upgrade and not a major improvement.

If the 1D camera bodies aren't going to be merged, I sure hope these MarkII N "improvements" are not an indication of the next generation for the 1Ds Mark II.

[adam LC]

If this is true, I am going to be rather disappointed.

1. I am hoping the 1D body line will merge into one camera, offering the best of both worlds with a few technical enhancements (FF, MkIIN shutter with 1Ds high rez, DIGIC III, faster and bigger buffer, etc)

This article does not specifically mention the Mark IIn by name, but if this rumor is true, then we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the 1D bodies will not be merged this year (which is a shame, really).

2. The 1Ds Mark II is currently full frame and the 1D Mark IIN is 1.3; why in the world would Canon not have developed a FF body for this camera line by now? The MkIIN was supposed to be a minor upgrade.... Keeping the same 1.3 crop factor that was provided on the original 1D (released in September 2001 !!!!) simply doesn't make sense to me.

3. At 10.1 million megapixels?- I agree with Black - That is disappointing. An extra 1 million mp (and change) just isn't enough to motivate me to spend the money on this camera.

DIGIC III should be a given by this point, but "anti-dust technology" bores me. Maybe it's just me, but this seems like another minor upgrade to this camera series. I've been thinking that the next generation(s) of the 1D series would be earth-shatteringly amazing, but this just seems like another minor upgrade and not a major improvement.

If the 1D camera bodies aren't going to be merged, I sure hope these MarkII N "improvements" are not an indication of the next generation for the 1Ds Mark II.
I agree, I'm waiting to buy a new body specifically and if this is the upgrade I've been waiting for....:evil:
I'll buy the MK2n... the best thing there is DigicIII and I don't think that would be worth the extra money alone.

I hope these rumours are complete rubbish and my socks are blown off with the truth... I'll wait and see.

[joegolf68]

If this is true, I am going to be rather disappointed.

1. I am hoping the 1D body line will merge into one camera, offering the best of both worlds with a few technical enhancements (FF, MkIIN shutter with 1Ds high rez, DIGIC III, faster and bigger buffer, etc)

This article does not specifically mention the Mark IIn by name, but if this rumor is true, then we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the 1D bodies will not be merged this year (which is a shame, really).

2. The 1Ds Mark II is currently full frame and the 1D Mark IIN is 1.3; why in the world would Canon not have developed a FF body for this camera line by now? The MkIIN was supposed to be a minor upgrade.... Keeping the same 1.3 crop factor that was provided on the original 1D (released in September 2001 !!!!) simply doesn't make sense to me.

3. At 10.1 million megapixels?- I agree with Black - That is disappointing. An extra 1 million mp (and change) just isn't enough to motivate me to spend the money on this camera.

DIGIC III should be a given by this point, but "anti-dust technology" bores me. Maybe it's just me, but this seems like another minor upgrade to this camera series. I've been thinking that the next generation(s) of the 1D series would be earth-shatteringly amazing, but this just seems like another minor upgrade and not a major improvement.

If the 1D camera bodies aren't going to be merged, I sure hope these MarkII N "improvements" are not an indication of the next generation for the 1Ds Mark II.

I agree. Or I might just jump on a 5D after reading so much positive stuff here. I'd hate to lose the fps, but I would just keep the 30D for that. I am still betting we will get a major upgrade, so keep our collective fingers crossed.

[racketman]

depending on performance of DIGIC III it sounds fine to me as a first time buyer at this level. I certainly wouldnt want them to combine the 1D and 1Ds as I would not be able to afford it. This spec should be about £2500 ?

[Tom W]

It's evident from this thread that megapixels are the marketing force, regardless of the resultant image. If Canon can pull off these specs along with an additional stop or so of dynamic range, then it is a significant improvement.

Remember the primary purpose of this camera - sports & photojournalism. That means frames-per-second, speed of operation, focus accuracy, and high-ISO noise performance are very important, while very high pixel count takes a secondary role.

[zman]

Looks like cropped 1DsMKII sensor, meaning same pixel size (slightly larger than 20D). If the rumor is true and the price is right I may go for it. :)

[D113]

I think the 1.3 crop factor will stick around. The reason I say this is due in part to the rumours of a 12-24L potentially coming out. 1DmkIIN users have been dying for a 16-35 equivalent that doesnt vignette...like my tamron 12-24 =(

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[elbirth]

I'd really like to see 10fps on the new model. Mainly for the "cool" factor, but also because that extra bit could be handy when shooting fast action where people and objects are moving very rapidly. Being able to get those extra few shots in the same time frame could be the difference between the perfect positioning in a shot and "almost" perfect.

Like most others, though, I'd really like to see a higher jump in MP. I'd really like to see at least 12, but I also recognize that the higher the specs go, the higher the price tag goes with it.

Being that I don't own a 1-series yet and am waiting to see what happens in the coming weeks to make my decision, the specs on that link would be ok with me, overall.

[Juan Zas]

Some more specs coming from DPR added to the upper ones:

- ISO 6400
- 19 AF points cross-type

[elbirth]

what would cross-type AF points be? I'm not familiar with that

[CyberDyneSystems]

Funny, though I doubt this rumor,
this is about exactly what I want! :lol:

All the other 1D predictions have been FF and 12MP.. which is the exact same pixel density as the current 1D MkIIn (and the 5D)

If I am going to upgrade my 1D MkII to ANYTHING that camera will have to have higher pixel density to make it worth my while.
this si the only one so far to offer it, buy maintaining the 1.3X crop and increasing res.

[Juan Zas]

what would cross-type AF points be? I'm not familiar with that

If I am not wrong, there are two types of AF points, ones are horizontal and others vertical (oriented) AF sensors; so they are sensible to changes in contrast to achieve the focus.

The center AF point is a mixture of both (a cross sensor); and this one is more sensitive and accurate.

[elbirth]

If I am not wrong, there are two types of AF points, ones are horizontal and others vertical (oriented) AF sensors; so they are sensible to changes in contrast to achieve the focus.

The center AF point is a mixture of both (a cross sensor); and this one is more sensitive and accurate.

oh cool, that sounds pretty interesting

[Hellashot]

I think that dual DIGIC III could be related to split tasks; one Digic circuit used for AF system + may be something esle, and the other one to processing sensor data + exposition; in this way it will take care of the 45 AF points more efficently and fast.

The 1-series, at least the 1D lines, already has 2 processors of which 1 is dedicated to the autofocusing.

[Juan Zas]

The 1-series, at least the 1D lines, already has 2 processors of which 1 is dedicated to the autofocusing.

Thank you, but I did already know it. That´s the reason because my 350D with ONLY 7 AF points is "so slow" in AI Servo ... It took to me some time and hundred of shoots to arrive at a proper set-up (tweak) to make me get keeper images.

[Punisher77]

Thank you, but I did already know it. That´s the reason because my 350D with ONLY 7 AF points is "so slow" in AI Servo ... It took to me some time and hundred of shoots to arrive at a proper set-up (tweak) to make me get keeper images.

I've got the 350D and I was wondering what your "tweak" was.

[Juan Zas]

I've got the 350D and I was wondering what your "tweak" was.

Keep away the only Digic II processor from all AUTO settings, so in AI Servo the processor has less load and more time to dedicate only to track with the AF system (and of course, a fast lens). That did work to track birds in flight. So, my next body will probably have 2 processors or at least 1 very fast and a capable AF system. Now I know what I want.

[basroil]

Keep away the only Digic II processor from all AUTO settings, so in AI Servo the processor has less load and more time to dedicate only to track with the AF system (and of course, a fast lens). That did work to track birds in flight. So, my next body will probably have 2 processors or at least 1 very fast and a capable AF system. Now I know what I want.

most of the af problems on the 350d are due to software issues rather than processor limits.. that and battery power... 20d/30d have much faster focusing, especially with IS telephotos... but they still have digic II... then again, they also have batteries and internal circuits that allow a better draw of current to supply those power hungry IS telephotos on servo...

[Juan Zas]

A possible new adition to the specs of this 1D Mk III should be the support of the HD photo format. It looks like lastly have been many contacts/movements between Canon/Microsoft/Adobe to support this format.

[René Damkot]

If this is true: 10Mp: Hurray. I don't need more, and I don't want more, unless there is a way to shoot RAW at a lower res.
10fps.: Couldn't care less
1.3 crop: Big bummer. I'd *really* like full frame.
Anti dust: why not? Better to have it and not need it then the other way around..
Digic III: If this means lower noise, and higher ISO and/or DR, it might mean I'll get it, even if it's a crop camera.
We'll wait and see....

[Juan Zas]

Some more rumor specs filtered lastly:

- 3" LCD with live video?

[elbirth]

Some more rumor specs filtered lastly:

- 3" LCD with live video?

3" would be great... live video would hint at the pellicle mirror system perhaps?

[Juan Zas]

3" would be great... live video would hint at the pellicle mirror system perhaps?


Really the USA source did say 3" LIVE LCD, no idea about it or no more details; sorry

[CyberDyneSystems]

This is all now 100% confirmed Juan, nice call!

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=280392

[racketman]

what will the effect be on MKIIN prices I wonder? I can forsee a lot of them being sold to upgrade. Obviously still a great camera, could be some bargains.

[Juan Zas]

This is all now 100% confirmed Juan, nice call!

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=280392


My pleasure :D :D :D

[elbirth]

man oh man, that 1DMkIII looks amazing... hello my future new camera :D :D :D