Kodak Announces 14MP Digital SLR/c for Canon Photographers

[bct341]

Looks like Kodak is making a canon compatible version of its SLR... thoughts on this camera? Maybe this will push Canon to bring out a cheaper full frame body

http://photos.msn.com/Editorial/Article.aspx?aid=KodakAnnounces14MPDigitalSLRc&sec =NewsGear

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oops.. did not see the previous posting on this :)

[5 Type]

Take a look at this topic : http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=27699&highlight=

[bct341]

Thanks.. did not see the previous postings.. even when i refreshed.. will check it out now

[yalemba]

Based on preliminary information, I am considering selling my 10D and going for the new Kodak model, which will give me a full sensor and 14 MP resolution using my existing lenses !!!!

Canon has to come up with a competitive response, or else they will be driven out by Kodak within a year or so...

[defordphoto]

Based on preliminary information, I am considering selling my 10D and going for the new Kodak model, which will give me a full sensor and 14 MP resolution using my existing lenses !!!!

Canon has to come up with a competitive response, or else they will be driven out by Kodak within a year or so...

I'd do more research before you jump off the cliff. Looks like ISO800 and above on the Kodak are unusable. That's not good. Kodak's track record on the digital SLR's isn't so hot so you might want to be a little careful.

Canon's response? Been in the works for some time. Look for the 1Ds MKII at Photokina in October, or PMA 2005 at the latest.

[CyberDyneSystems]

er...

At the same price point you can get a 1D MkII,.. no it doesn't have as many pixels,. but every other spec is vastly superior,. if MP was the only story,. than you could get a DCS 14n on Ebay for under $3,000.00

And of course the 1Ds still takes the cake.

[defordphoto]

It will soon get to the point where megapixels become moot. The way the camera handles the files and produces a clean, noise free image is what will become selling points in our future cameras. I'm real interested to see how the MKII does at high ISO's. From the sample shots we've seen, high ISO shots have been unbelievably noiseless. Of course, we'll see how all that flies when we have the cameras in hand.

And then imagine that DIGIC-II technology on a far superior (over the Kodak) sensor on a 16 megapixel 1Ds MKII. WOW! :shock:

[yalemba]

For indoor portrait/wedding photography, where the high ISO may not be a major issue, the Kodak product does sound like a good option to high end Canon cameras. I wish Canon could introduce their 12-16 MP technology under the magical $5K price tag (day dreaming, off course ;-) )...

[defordphoto]

For indoor portrait/wedding photography, where the high ISO may not be a major issue, the Kodak product does sound like a good option to high end Canon cameras. I wish Canon could introduce their 12-16 MP technology under the magical $5K price tag (day dreaming, off course ;-) )...

Agreed. I (also) think it will make an outstanding wedding cam. I doubt you'll see the Canon that cheap.

[CyberDyneSystems]

I've got my hopes up that this Kodak wil be a lot better than the ill fated 14n...

It will be awfually nice to see some price wars!

Also,. for those who need the best of both worlds (massive resolution in one camera and super high speed in another) the Kodak and a MkII would cost only 2K$ more than a 1Ds alone....

Not a bad little pair of cameras 8)

[defordphoto]

Hmmmmmm....Checking bank account...

[AzzKicker]

Seriously, from the images I've seen and reviews.


This Kodak dSLR is nothing but a big pile of crap. I mean it says professional on it. How much more "n00bs, buy this camera " can you get.


Look at these links and reviews before you sell your canons:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/kodakdcs14n/page16.asp

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/Kodak%20ProSLR-mini-review.shtml


And what is this with a 1.7FPS burst rate?




Theres a REASON why the CANON high megapixel dSLR is expensive :) Its not CRAP :)

[defordphoto]

Heh...forgot the :wink: on my comment. I have no intention of buying the Kodak. AK: Good link there to the comparison the the new Kodak and the exisiting 1Ds.

No contest. The 1Ds smokes the Kodak. Not even close. Not even. Did I say it wasn't even close?

[AzzKicker]

The sad thing is EVEN AT ISO 400 It's unacceptable. I think the CANON G3's and G5's DO BETTER at ISO 400 lol and those G series are BAD at ISO 200 or 400.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Seriously, from the images I've seen and reviews.


This Kodak dSLR is nothing but a big pile of crap. I mean it says professional on it. How much more "n00bs, buy this camera " can you get.


Look at these links and reviews before you sell your canons:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/kodakdcs14n/page16.asp



Your linking to reviews and imafes from the older 14n,... which indeed was an expensive peice of crap.


The Canon mount version, and even the new Nikon mount Camera has not hit the streets yet,. so we don't KNOW that the new Cmaera will be soo bad.

It may still "blow" but all I'm saying is,. I hope it doesn't :)

Popular Photography gave the 14n (the old camera) a bad review, the have a preveiw of the new Nikon mount DCS Pro,.. and they say there is a world of difference,. it is said to be a very much improved Camera.

[AzzKicker]

I see you left out the 2nd link when you quoted me though. It even says for the newer revised version there is still a lot of noise.

[CoolToolGuy]

The Canon mount version, and even the new Nikon mount Camera has not hit the streets yet,. so we don't KNOW that the new Cmaera will be soo bad.


A very small point, but I saw a PRO SLRn go out the door of a camera store today (as in sold). I couldn't believe my eyes, thinking it was the Canon version, until I looked closer at the box and noticed the 'n'.

Have Fun
Rick 8)

[defordphoto]

AK's link from Luminous Landscape has testimony from someone who bought one ("N" version) from B&H and then promptly sent it back after the poor photos it produced.

[ron chappel]

Here's an ,er, odd thing to think of...
There is specuation that this body MAY be made by sigma (no one is saying,it's made in japan somewhere)

If so...
I wonder if this may be one of the only canon mount cameras to never have compatability issues with any sigma lenses...?
LOL :)

[kraterz]

I wonder if this may be one of the only canon mount cameras to never have compatability issues with any sigma lenses...?
LOL :)
No, even then Sigma will find a way of screwing things up. Otherwise how can they sell newer lenses?

[defordphoto]

Interesting thread and more Kodak pictures (yuck) at: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/81583

[Tom W]

Here's an ,er, odd thing to think of...
There is specuation that this body MAY be made by sigma (no one is saying,it's made in japan somewhere)

If so...
I wonder if this may be one of the only canon mount cameras to never have compatability issues with any sigma lenses...?
LOL :)

How about this - consumers demand that Canon rechip their lenses to work with the backwards-engineered Kodak/Sigma body. :)

[CyberDyneSystems]

So the "N": is out anyways,.

The pics don't look so bad to me. The Brides hair does look weird,. but I'm not sure what's causing that.. and the building shot looks great to me. :roll:

[defordphoto]

The "C" will be the exact same electronics just using canon lenses. That overhead shot looks horrible. The building shot is pretty decent except for the pinkish dirt and other weird colors. The bride shot is just weird.

To me it looks like this version of Kodak's so-called professional SLR has much of the same problems as the first version.

[Canuck]

Hmmmmmm....Checking bank account...
I get the feeling it is depleted already...what is that about the 1D Mark II??? :)

[defordphoto]

Hmmmmmm....Checking bank account...
I get the feeling it is depleted already...what is that about the 1D Mark II??? :)

The Kodak ain't going to happen. Not after reading the reviews and seeing the photos. I would have no use for that camera as it would not serve my needs.

[AzzKicker]

Not to mention, the Mark II going for around 4500$ from what i read somewhere. Thats not that bad compared to the Kodak :)

[D30Photo]

First, I'm not a camera reviewer, but I've shoot with all Canon stuffs. I've always look for the best image quality DSLR available. I have used the D30,D60,10D,1D,1DS, and 1hr with the 1Dmk2 at a demo (got to take home all of the RAW).

The biggest problem with the 14n/SLRn is the PhotoDesk SW. As for quality, with good lightings like studio, flash, daylight the 14n/SLRn RAW images (process with ACR 2.1) rival the 1DS if not better.

If you don't want to download and process them yourself, I have processed them with Adobe ACR2.1 for you to see: http://imageevent.com/d30photo/kodak

I have used the 1DS, and although it is very nice, it's image quality does not exced the 14n/SLRn at low ISO and good lighting.

I have taken over 1300 RAW images from the 1DS over the weekend, mainly at ISO100 either with studio lights or out door with various top Canon lens, 50mm f1.4, 24-70L, 70-200 IS, 28-135 IS, some hand held, some tripod, so I think I could safely judge the best the 1DS can offer.
See full samples of 1DS here:
http://imageevent.com/d30photo/tools ,first two images.

The 14n/SLRn is not the 1DS, but up to last week, you can get a new 14n with after instant rebate for about $2700. That's a very good price if you use it mainly at ISO400 and lower, like I do. This is why I hope the SLRc is as good as the 14n/SLRn so I can keep all of my Canon lens. The 1DS is nice, but it's not worth $7k.

I have a 1Dmk2 on order and should be coming soon, but since I'm not 100% satisty with the 1DS (about 95%), I highly doubt I will with the 1Dmk2 in term of image quality and resolution. But unlike many, I'll pay the price to use it for a while to make my own judgement and sell it if I want something better.

With Canon there is a trade off between low noise at high ISO at the expense of sharpness and clearity. And we all know by now how the AA filter play its role.

Best regards,

-Tuan-
www.BayAreaFoto.com

[Canuck]

Hmmmmmm....Checking bank account...
I get the feeling it is depleted already...what is that about the 1D Mark II??? :)

The Kodak ain't going to happen. Not after reading the reviews and seeing the photos. I would have no use for that camera as it would not serve my needs.

I was merely winding you up and I realise 100% that is is nowhere near fast enough for shooting motorsports. I would say that there might be a chance if you were a landscape type shooter that doesn't need lightning fast pics though. But you aren't so that idea goes out the window...
<<hears glass shattering>>