Poll: 40D Still Coming

[calicokat]

With Canon releasing the awesome 1DMIII, do you think Canon will still release the rumored 40D or it will have to wait.

[calicokat]

I voted no 40D this time, the 1DMIII is so huge of an announcement, we will see a 40D in the fall

What do you guys think, popular opinion counts

[Hermeto]

1Ds MkIII and a couple of new lenses, I say..
30D is still quite a new camera, we’ll have to wait for 40D at least until this fall..

[calicokat]

1Ds MkIII and a couple of new lenses, I say..
30D is still quite a new camera, we’ll have to wait for 40D at least until this fall..

You think they will release a 1DsMIII at PMA along with the 1DMIII

[Franko515]

You think they will release a 1DsMIII at PMA along with the 1DMIII

I actually think they will. There have been reports of people actually shooting this camera (read that here)

No 40D though until fall

[BradT0517]

With Canon releasing the awesome 1DMIII, do you think Canon will still release the rumored 40D or it will have to wait.

You say this as if Canon already annouced the 1DMIII.

[Doom1701e]

You say this as if Canon already annouced the 1DMIII.

They did announce a 1DMIII.

[calicokat]

I actually think they will. There have been reports of people actually shooting this camera (read that here)

No 40D though until fall

We shall see, would make me poor in a hurry if they did :eek:

You say this as if Canon already annouced the 1DMIII.

Just a guess ;)

[BradT0517]

They did announce a 1DMIII.

Just a guess ;)

OK now I am confused.

[racketman]

OK now I am confused.


http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=14999

[calicokat]

OK now I am confused.

Brad, where have you been my friend, its all over the internet world :)

[BradT0517]

Brad, where have you been my friend, its all over the internet world :)

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: When was this I never heard anything.

[calicokat]

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: When was this I never heard anything.

Not sure, but its here :D

[lostdoggy]

Oooops!!!!

[BradT0517]

Just imagine how many people will be confused by a 40D and D40

[calicokat]

Canon already announced the 1DMIII

[BradT0517]

I need to stop looking at it this is not good (bad Brad stop it no stop it now)

[calicokat]

I need to stop looking at it this is not good (bad Brad stop it no stop it now)

You know you want one ;)

[lostdoggy]

You know i hate Canon. Now I gotta Dream about 2 Camera Body again. I was hoping they would just release one machine gun ful frame body. Now Igotta wait to see if they gonna upgrade the 5D. Please let it be a FF 5fps and environmentally sealed body!!!!

[calicokat]

You know i hate Canon. Now I gotta Dream about 2 Camera Body again. I was hoping they would just release one machine gun ful frame body. Now Igotta wait to see if they gonna upgrade the 5D. Please let it be a FF 5fps and environmentally sealed body!!!!

That would be nice

[BradT0517]

You know you want one ;)


Oh maybe just a little

[calicokat]

Oh maybe just a little

I know I do :)

[farrukh]

40D is more important camera at this time because of d200. 1DMIII is bit surprise as Canon had no competition in sports arena.

[calicokat]

40D is more important camera at this time because of d200. 1DMIII is bit surprise as Canon had no competition in sports arena.

That is a good point, we will have to see what Canon does next

[Juan Zas]

40D is more important camera at this time because of d200. 1DMIII is bit surprise as Canon had no competition in sports arena.

The problem is with the 40D specs leaked until now I think is not enough to fight against the D200 (the suggested price in the belgium site is rather expensive, unless they drop down ...). Looks like another little improvement over the 30D (this one it was also over the 20D). Let´s wait & see ...

I think for me is clear now, I have just recover my "old lovely rose pig saving pot" and from today I shall start to collect to make the jump to the next league (1D MkIII) where I have all I was dreaming with.

[farrukh]

The problem is with the 40D specs leaked until now I think is not enough to fight against the D200 (the suggested price in the belgium site is rather expensive, unless they drop down ...). Looks like another little improvement over the 30D (this one it was also over the 20D). Let´s wait & see ...

I think for me is clear now, I have just recover my "old lovely rose pig saving pot" and from today I shall start to collect to make the jump to the next league (1D MkIII) where I have all I was dreaming with.


Well the spec "DIGIC II" is the one in those leaks which is enough certificate that those leaks are false. It is mighty sure that there should DIGIC III in any dSLR from now.

[calicokat]

The best the 40D could be would be to have 10 MP's, Digic III, 1.6X, 5-7 FPS

for $1200-$1400, it cannot have too much. I have always wondered what the D200 did that was so much better than the 30D

[Juan Zas]

Well the spec "DIGIC II" is the one in those leaks which is enough certificate that those leaks are false. It is mighty sure that there should DIGIC III in any dSLR from now.

And also it could be that Canon is delaying now the introduction of the 40D due to the people´s reaction over the specs leaked and after the announcement of the 1D MkIII; so they can "revamp" and have more time to introduce a model that can fight properly against the D200. The belgium source from where these specs has come looks good, but still are rumors... not official ...

If the 40D is delayed until fall again (that´s it when the 1Ds MkIII rumors also say is going to be launched), I must think some tech reasons are behind and the lesson from the 20D-->> 30D has been learned (just a little improvement in specs that doesn´t justify a new inversion).

BTW: Digit III is needed for fast 45 AF focus (19 cross type + 26) and 10 fps processing, but may be not needed for 9 AF points + 5fps in an 10 Mp body. So, why to make more expensive the body? (just a guess??) Introduce a new processor needs to redesign the model (higher freq., new circuits, etc....)

[calicokat]

And also it could be that Canon is delaying now the introduction of the 40D due to the people´s reaction over the specs leaked and after the announcement of the 1D MkIII; so they can "revamp" and have more time to introduce a model that can fight properly against the D200.

If the 40D is delayed until fall again (that´s it when the 1Ds MkIII rumors also say is going to be launch), I must think some tech reasons are behind and the lesson from the 20D-->> 30D has been learned (just a little improvement in specs that doesn´t justify a new inversion).

Thats a really good point and I agree with it :)

[Mr. Ed]

I've been waiting to see if the 40D is going to come out in march before I purchase but I'm not too fussed either way if it comes out. 30Ds just had a bit of a price drop here recently so if the 40D doesn't come out I'll grab one of the 30Ds cheaper, if it does, I'll get the 40D.




I hope it does come out in march though.

[calicokat]

I've been waiting to see if the 40D is going to come out in march before I purchase but I'm not too fussed either way if it comes out. 30Ds just had a bit of a price drop here recently so if the 40D doesn't come out I'll grab one of the 30Ds cheaper, if it does, I'll get the 40D.




I hope it does come out in march though.

I still say we are looking at the Fall for a 40D release, the 1DMIII is going to be all the buzz for sometime

[farrukh]

BTW: Digit III is needed for fast 45 AF focus (19 cross type + 26) and 10 fps processing, but may be not needed for 9 AF points + 5fps in an 10 Mp body. So, why to make more expensive the body? (just a guess??) Introduce a new processor needs to redesign the model (higher freq., new circuits, etc....)

Well then why PnS cameras like G7 got DigicIII? It seems there will be more processing power needed if 40d will be 10mp, 5fps and 14bit color depth + to achive better noise performance.

[Juan Zas]

Well then why PnS cameras like G7 got DigicIII? It seems there will be more processing power needed if 40d will be 10mp, 5fps and 14bit color depth + to achive better noise performance.

Yeah ... it was just a guess

New P&S cameras are new designs from begining meanwhile the 30D & probably the 40D are "evolution designs" from previous concepts.

Just to justify myself (and thinking logically)

1D MkIII is another thing, they have "reset to 0" and recreate the whole creature from the beginning

[farrukh]

Yeah ... it was just a guess

New P&S cameras are new designs from begining meanwhile the 30D & probably the 40D are "evolution designs" from previous concepts.

Just to justify myself (and thinking logically)

1D MkIII is another thing, they have "reset to 0" and recreate the whole creature from the beginning

I tell you if Canon don't use DigicIII in 40d, then it cannot complete 18 months cycle

[_aravena]

It's all rumor, but all I heard about the 40 was same fps although I guess it could go up to 5-7 since now the MkIII is 10fps. Of course the digic III since Canon's new P&S have it. Oh right, 10mp but nothing much more. It's a step up like the XTi was to XT. Still nice and better.

but forget all that, I wanna MkIII!!! How much do kidneys go for on ebay these days?

[steve75]

Well, i don't know what to think.... last Wednesday i was flying out to Madrid for a nice long weekend break, whilst waiting at the airport i bought a photography magazine to read that i don't normally buy. Whilst i flicked through the news section one article caught my eye.... an article about a possible accidental 40d leak by canon china..... apparently canon china accidently left a test page up on their website with the title line canon 40d!!! no other info on the page, just that line......... the page was supposedly left up for a couple of hours before they discovered the mishap! so if this really happened then my money is on that it will still be released at pma...

I can't remember the name of the magazine but i'll have a look when i get home and i'll scan the article to post here if it isn't old news already??.......... ignore me if it is!!! :lol:

[_aravena]

I don't if it's posted there, but I was looking up rumors on the 40D and found a site that linked me to that site. Funny it was around the same time that link was there, sheer coincidence, but yeah, it was there. We know it's real and they'll annouce it I'm sure, but it won't be out till fall or somewhere around there.

This is no different than cars or gaming consoles. It's all the same deal. And I still can't wait for the Skyline GT-R 35. Sorry, car guy too.

[steve75]

yeah i just did a search on google and found a link to a screen capture of the incident

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1889/untitled18ap.jpg

the page in the capture is now actually linking to a 400d page and canon claim it was just an error......

[nimnar]

Looking over past PMA announcements (as seen on dpreview.com) it appears that Canon announced their cameras all at one go.

[farrukh]

Seems 40d will be annoucned right at first day of PMA as may be Canon decided to announce Mark III first for a sudden shocker

[Mark_Cohran]

I voted no 40D this time, the 1DMIII is so huge of an announcement, we will see a 40D in the fall

What do you guys think, popular opinion counts

Agreed.

[JohnnyG]

but forget all that, I wanna MkIII!!! How much do kidneys go for on ebay these days?

I love it! That's about how I feel about the MkIII! It seems to be a fantastic camera but well out of my league unless I could sell a kidney!;)

My dream right now is a 40D with some worthy specs to make me feel that selling my 20D and buying one is the right thing. When the 30D came out, I wasn't ready to buy and besides the 30D was a warmed up 20D and I had one of those. Now I'm ready to get the 40D and there isn't one! Darn! And I was looking forward to one so much.

Oh well, maybe at the PMA show. I hope, I hope, I hope! If not, I'm not sure I can keep the money I've saved for the 40D until fall. Might have to spend it on something else. THEN they'll announce the 40D!

Oh, the abject futility of it all......:( Oh, woe is me........



But, I will hold my head high and fight the good fight for Canon and I too, one day, will hold the camera of my dreams!:D:D:D

[_aravena]

I wanted the 40D but something about waiting 5 more months seemed outta the question so I went ahead with the 30D. If I had a 20D I could've waited but i had an XT and the wait was killing me so I sold it and bought a body since i was getting all new lenses too. Christmas and my birthday both in Dec rule!!!

But now I'm thinking in a year it'll be time ('cause I'll also have enough money') to get the the 1DMkIII. I've only had a camera for a year normally before I got another. I was only shooting digital for a year, got the XT Dec '05 but I had several Minolta film before that.

That is of course if the L sickness doesn't drain my pockets first.

[jaybird]

Man, that was a total let down for me. Sure, the new 1D might be fantastic for most people, but I was really hoping for that 40D to come out.

I've still got my 300D and was hoping the 40D would come out so that I could get a new body. As it is, I might end up just sticking with the 300D until it dies.

[Juan Zas]

Last rumors about 40D .....

Sorry guys but it looks like the "no more announcements at PMA" for the moment is taking force ... some sources that said yes before, now have change the mind (or whatever info had).

BUT ....

it looks like it will be translated to next CeBit in Hanover, Germany, to be held from 15th to 21th of March. This exhibition is more consumer oriented and Canon Deutschland has reserved a stand. (Really they have 3, but different electronic sectors).

In this way, each body it will be announced in different exhibitions and the 40D can not be eclipsed by the 1D MkIII like it would the case actually ....

AGAIN RUMORS .....Nothing final yet.

[Punisher77]

Well then why PnS cameras like G7 got DigicIII?

Don't forget Canon's "revolutionary" face detection auto focus. :rolleyes:

[calicokat]

I tell you if Canon don't use DigicIII in 40d, then it cannot complete 18 months cycle

Agreed.

Man, that was a total let down for me. Sure, the new 1D might be fantastic for most people, but I was really hoping for that 40D to come out.

I've still got my 300D and was hoping the 40D would come out so that I could get a new body. As it is, I might end up just sticking with the 300D until it dies.

I still maintain that we will see the 40D of everyone's dreams, just not yet ;)

[calicokat]

and I love the 5 votes for "what" :lol:

[farrukh]

And i still maintain that it will exhibit at the PMA. well see

[calicokat]

And i still maintain that it will exhibit at the PMA. well see

It would be a pleasant surprise for many ;)

[CoolToolGuy]

I think the 40D is bound to come at PMA:

PMA is more about retail sales, and that is where the replacement for the 30D will be sold. The 1D MKIII is professional, and a high percentage of them will not be retail sales, but rather commercial.
The XTi got the new cleaning system and the focusing from the prior 1 Series - leaving the 30D in that hole would not be a good thing for Canon to do.
The XTi and the 1DIII are 10MP, and the 30D is 8MP (please, I know MPs aren't the whole measure) - Canon can't have the prosumer camera at a lower MP than the consumer model for very long.Have Fun,

[Kadath]

Canon told the press that there would be no further cameras before or during PMA:
http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/canon_spring_launch_2007

[Billginthekeys]

lol i love how nonchalontly Brad said "as if they already announced the mkIII" hehehehehehe

btw i just uped the what vote count to 6.

[calicokat]

Canon told the press that there would be no further cameras before or during PMA:
http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/canon_spring_launch_2007

Well there you have it :eek:

[calicokat]

lol i love how nonchalontly Brad said "as if they already announced the mkIII" hehehehehehe

btw i just uped the what vote count to 6.

Thanks Bill ;)

[Billginthekeys]

Thanks Bill ;)
hey, to get any less than the mkIII at this point would be a sin against nature, so im not lowering myself to the 40D :D

[calicokat]

hey, to get any less than the mkIII at this point would be a sin against nature, so im not lowering myself to the 40D :D

Want to buy a 1DMIIN :eek:

[Billginthekeys]

Want to buy a 1DMIIN :eek:
lol i actually might (hence selling the 1D) but i dont have the cash difference at this time hahaha, so ill have to save up for a while longer, and by then the N will be like $2500, and they will be giving away MKII at homeless shelters.

[calicokat]

lol i actually might (hence selling the 1D) but i dont have the cash difference at this time hahaha, so ill have to save up for a while longer, and by then the N will be like $2500, and they will be giving away MKII at homeless shelters.

When your ready, let me know. I will sell my 1DMIIN, extra NP-E3 battery, a 2gb SD card and a Tamrac Expediton 4 for $2750

[Billginthekeys]

When your ready, let me know. I will sell my 1DMIIN, extra NP-E3 battery, a 2gb SD card and a Tamrac Expediton 4 for $2750
ohhh thats so tempting..... but i would have to sell my 24-105.... and come up with like $700 more on top of that....

[calicokat]

ohhh thats so tempting..... but i would have to sell my 24-105.... and come up with like $700 more on top of that....

Well, let me know. I will probably put it up for sale in the next month. And that is the Bill price, I will probably list all that for closer to $2900. The extra battery, memory card and backpack retail for $400 and the camera only has 7000 shots and is in 10+ condition

[Billginthekeys]

Well, let me know. I will probably put it up for sale in the next month. And that is the Bill price, I will probably list all that for closer to $2900. The extra battery, memory card and backpack retail for $400 and the camera only has 7000 shots and is in 10+ condition
yes i know, and i really thank your for the awesome offer. and i know you take great care of your stuff. ill really have to think about it while i plot how to make a lot of money this weekend :D

[calicokat]

yes i know, and i really thank your for the awesome offer. and i know you take great care of your stuff. ill really have to think about it while i plot how to make a lot of money this weekend :D

Don't do anything illegal, I know how you U people are :eek: j/k

[Billginthekeys]

Don't do anything illegal, I know how you U people are :eek: j/k
illegal, nah, but stupid, mabye :D i wonder how much i can get for my brand new car ;)

[calicokat]

illegal, nah, but stupid, mabye :D i wonder how much i can get for my brand new car ;)

Good luck on that ;)

[BradT0517]

and I love the 5 votes for "what" :lol:

Well I can proudly say I was vote number one.:rolleyes:

[Headcase650]

I realy hope the 40D comes out now but if it does wait till fall I bet its going to be a mini MKIII D200 Killer.
10Mp sensor with 1-2 stops more dinamic range with digic III
ISO 6400
sealed
11 af sensors with 5 cross type
live LCD
dust removal and prevention
The new ISO shift feature (about time)
camera master flash
brighter viewfinder(similar to nikon)

[Juan Zas]

I have to say that the belgium site that did published the 40D specs has removed the link to the 40D, now it shows the ISUS 75 in stead.

Sorry guys, this smelts no good, I think the 40D is going to be delayed once more ...

[ipacmm]

I don't think we will see a 40D now, I just hope for some more new lenses right now and lets have a new 1Ds Mark III and 40D come out in the fall.

To be honest, I am really surprised they did not come out with a new 1Ds out yet, it is the oldest camera in their line up and yes, it is still an amazing camera but I guess Canon must have something really amazing coming out for it that took so long...

[BradT0517]

lol i love how nonchalontly Brad said "as if they already announced the mkIII" hehehehehehe

btw i just uped the what vote count to 6.

Its because I never expected a 1DmIII and googleling it at the time brought up nothing.

[Billginthekeys]

Its because I never expected a 1DmIII and googleling it at the time brought up nothing.
hehe i meant nothing by the comment. no harm done i hope :)

[BradT0517]

So what are Nikons specs for the D300 now that we have a 1DmIII and a fabled 40D on the attack. Even the XTi could be considered competition.

[BradT0517]

hehe i meant nothing by the comment. no harm done i hope :)

Nope no harm at all I just felt out of the loop knowing nothing of a 1DMIII

[JohnnyG]

I voted for the 40D but let's face it, it doesn't matter what we vote for, Canon will do what they're planning to do, whatever that is.

I started saving for the 40D about 6 weeks ago and now have a couple dollars but no camera to spend it on. So, what now? I have a 20D which I love but I really want to move up. The 30D is a fine camera but too close to my 20D so that's out of the question. A 5D has FF and a much higher price but I'm not sure about FF for me. I did see the 5D around Christmas for less than $2000.00 with rebates but I questioned the FF then and I'm still not sure about it. I love the wide angle advantage but don't like the loss on the long end. Maybe I should have bought it then as the price is back up without the rebates. But, I really thought there would be a 40D or at least a refreshed 5D but Canon has apparently decided we don't need those now.

So now I'm in the middle with no new camera to buy. Forget the exquisite Mark III because of price. The 20D/30D is growing whiskers and I'm not sure about the 5D. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? What to do, what to do?

I will say this: I am severely disappointed in this whole thing and really feel let down and I don't know why. Maybe it's because I felt strongly that Canon would replace the 30D. After all, it was a stop-gap replacement for the 20D and basically a refresh of it so they're overdue in my estimation.

Okay, I'll get off the couch. Thanks for listening Doctor!!!;)

[Tom W]

I have no idea if Canon will introduce a 40D at PMA or not, but I think that that part of the market is one in which Canon must make a competitive showing. Nikon, Sony, Pentax, and Olympus aren't going to wait. I'm going to guess that they can't really touch the 1D III, but the 30D isn't a strong-enough competitor.

[CoolToolGuy]

I have no idea if Canon will introduce a 40D at PMA or not, but I think that that part of the market is one in which Canon must make a competitive showing. Nikon, Sony, Pentax, and Olympus aren't going to wait. I'm going to guess that they can't really touch the 1D III, but the 30D isn't a strong-enough competitor.

Hear, Hear! My point exactly - its a segment of the DSLR market where Canon is behind.

Bu then I see those new 30D body and lens packages introduced in Britain and I wonder. . . :confused:

Have Fun,

[jaybird]

I would have thought they would have brought out the 40D. Like people have stated: the 30D was a half-a** attempt at making a better 20D. The new offering isn't FF and has less resolution than the 5D.

You would think that for an anniversary year they would have come up with something fantastic. Fender did it with their 50th anniversary guitars. What did Canon do? They released a professional camera that the vast majority of their customers will not ever use. It doesn't make much business-sense to me.

An anniversary year is the perfect time to arm a marketing campaign and thrash your competition. Drive home the superiority of your product. Bring in new customers and new revenue. It seems like they really dropped the ball.

[calicokat]

I would have thought they would have brought out the 40D. Like people have stated: the 30D was a half-a** attempt at making a better 20D. The new offering isn't FF and has less resolution than the 5D.

You would think that for an anniversary year they would have come up with something fantastic. Fender did it with their 50th anniversary guitars. What did Canon do? They released a professional camera that the vast majority of their customers will not ever use. It doesn't make much business-sense to me.

An anniversary year is the perfect time to arm a marketing campaign and thrash your competition. Drive home the superiority of your product. Bring in new customers and new revenue. It seems like they really dropped the ball.

If you do not think the 1DMIII isn't fantastic, I am not sure what is. This is a landmark camera with an all new processor. Do you think Canon would put their new processor in a prosumer camera. Canon has always been about the Pro first and foremost

[_aravena]

Totally. When I sell people cameras, if they want something than to catch their kids scoring a touchdown, i sell the D40 with a 55-200 lens and send them on their way. But, I explain if you want to go beyond that or have the potential, then here is the XTi and start here and I'll go one about it.

Nikon makes nice consumer friendly products, but Canon is professional all the way. Don't tell that to my bosses though. Although, neither own a digital Nikon only the films and they know nothing about Canon other than they like Nikon. Humph.

[calicokat]

Totally. When I sell people cameras, if they want something than to catch their kids scoring a touchdown, i sell the D40 with a 55-200 lens and send them on their way. But, I explain if you want to go beyond that or have the potential, then here is the XTi and start here and I'll go one about it.

Nikon makes nice consumer friendly products, but Canon is professional all the way. Don't tell that to my bosses though. Although, neither own a digital Nikon only the films and they know nothing about Canon other than they like Nikon. Humph.

Can you get me a discount on the 1DMIII :eek:

[jaybird]

Don't get me wrong. I'm not doggin' the new 1DMIII. It is an amazing camera, but the bulk of Canon's customers are not going to purchase it. Sure, it has the DigicIII processor (well, two, actually), but so do some of their P&S cameras.

Also, like you said, they are known for their professional-level cameras. But the bulk of the sales, and the profit, will be in the consumer and pro-sumer cameras. Right now there is a lot of competition at that level and everyone else is putting out some great cameras.

[calicokat]

Don't get me wrong. I'm not doggin' the new 1DMIII. It is an amazing camera, but the bulk of Canon's customers are not going to purchase it. Sure, it has the DigicIII processor (well, two, actually), but so do some of their P&S cameras.

Also, like you said, they are known for their professional-level cameras. But the bulk of the sales, and the profit, will be in the consumer and pro-sumer cameras. Right now there is a lot of competition at that level and everyone else is putting out some great cameras.

I agree 100%, but the 40D will have Digic III and noise control unseen as of yet. Then Canon will take back the Prosumer market as well

[Billginthekeys]

Don't get me wrong. I'm not doggin' the new 1DMIII. It is an amazing camera, but the bulk of Canon's customers are not going to purchase it. Sure, it has the DigicIII processor (well, two, actually), but so do some of their P&S cameras.

Also, like you said, they are known for their professional-level cameras. But the bulk of the sales, and the profit, will be in the consumer and pro-sumer cameras. Right now there is a lot of competition at that level and everyone else is putting out some great cameras.
actually their entire camera market accounts for a very small percentage of their revenue. for them haveing great photo gear is more of an image thing than a big money maker. obviously they make a ton off of their photogear, but it pales in comparison to their commercial sales.

[calicokat]

Pros do not buy as many camera's per se, but the lenses we buy more than trump the prosumer. Plus, the pros are not nearly as fickle, most will stay with Canon even when Nikon releases something new. I would say in the long run, the Pro is more important to Canon's success. Look at the Super Bowl ads and the publicity

[Billginthekeys]

Pros do not buy as many camera's per se, but the lenses we buy more than trump the prosumer. Plus, the pros are not nearly as fickle, most will stay with Canon even when Nikon releases something new. I would say in the long run, the Pro is more important to Canon's success. Look at the Super Bowl ads and the publicity
exactly, its all about the publicity, i read in another thread a while back a statement something along the lines of this: "Canon's photography sales account for about 7% of their total sales, but 70% of their advertising. If people like their cameras they will want to get their printers for the office ect"

thats where the real money, think about all the big companies that have to have multiple huge $30,000 copy machines. That alone trumps their camera sales.

[calicokat]

exactly, its all about the publicity, i read in another thread a while back a statement something along the lines of this: "Canon's photography sales account for about 7% of their total sales, but 70% of their advertising. If people like their cameras they will want to get their printers for the office ect"

thats where the real money, think about all the big companies that have to have multiple huge $30,000 copy machines. That alone trumps their camera sales.

No me gusta copy machines :evil:

[calicokat]

exactly, its all about the publicity, i read in another thread a while back a statement something along the lines of this: "Canon's photography sales account for about 7% of their total sales, but 70% of their advertising. If people like their cameras they will want to get their printers for the office ect"

thats where the real money, think about all the big companies that have to have multiple huge $30,000 copy machines. That alone trumps their camera sales.

I know a number of people who sold off there Canon stuff to buy the D200 because they were unhappy with the 30D. Prosumers can be so fickle. Those same people will sell off the D200 and come back when the 40D is announced in the Fall

[_aravena]

Can you get me a discount on the 1DMIII :eek:

Honestly when it comes out and we get them in the warehouse, it ain't much, well in this case it would be I'm sure, but I don't pay tax on cameras. But it's at our price, although when this is out, I'm sure everywhere will be the same. I do get 15% off lenses though. or is it 30%...I always forget.

[calicokat]

Honestly when it comes out and we get them in the warehouse, it ain't much, well in this case it would be I'm sure, but I don't pay tax on cameras. But it's at our price, although when this is out, I'm sure everywhere will be the same. I do get 15% off lenses though. or is it 30%...I always forget.

Now we are talking, I will be in the market for a 500 F/4L IS soon :eek:

[farrukh]

I think the 40D is bound to come at PMA:
PMA is more about retail sales, and that is where the replacement for the 30D will be sold. The 1D MKIII is professional, and a high percentage of them will not be retail sales, but rather commercial.
The XTi got the new cleaning system and the focusing from the prior 1 Series - leaving the 30D in that hole would not be a good thing for Canon to do.
The XTi and the 1DIII are 10MP, and the 30D is 8MP (please, I know MPs aren't the whole measure) - Canon can't have the prosumer camera at a lower MP than the consumer model for very long.Have Fun,

Absolutely. Now the only chance that 40d can be delayed is because of sluggish Canon R&D. Few of my friends went with Nikon system with d200 because there was nothing convincing in that category from Canon

[calicokat]

Absolutely. Now the only chance that 40d can be delayed is because of sluggish Canon R&D.

September ;)

[_aravena]

Absolutely. Now the only chance that 40d can be delayed is because of sluggish Canon R&D. Few of my friends went with Nikon system with d200 because there was nothing convincing in that category from Canon

The MKII's weren't enough? The...well, the 30 is faster but the MP's are down. And, still...Nikon sucks...not really but still. Canon has 3 categories. XTi (beginner) 5D and 30D (you choose your path of speed or portrait type) then the pro with the Mark's. I guess I can see where Nikon has that in between area with the D200. Being the same price as the 30D and less than the 5D. The D80 is obviously less, heck, only a hundred or so than the XTi. But heck, who's complaining? We're getting hat we want and Canon is still...Canon. #1

[calicokat]

The MKII's weren't enough? The...well, the 30 is faster but the MP's are down. And, still...Nikon sucks...not reallyy but still.

LOL, you speak your mind ;)

[farrukh]

The MKII's weren't enough? The...well, the 30 is faster but the MP's are down. And, still...Nikon sucks...not reallyy but still.

Hobbyists can't justify spending on 1 series cameras

[calicokat]

Hobbyists can't justify spending on 1 series cameras

Sure you can, there are a ton of people that own 1D's that are not pros

[farrukh]

September ;)

Plz its morning here. I want a good supportive start to the day :(

[calicokat]

Plz its morning here. I want a good supportive start to the day :(

Ok, it will be out sooner than later ;)

[farrukh]

Sure you can, there are a ton of people that own 1D's that are not pros

Yeah used 1ds

[_aravena]

Or people that own XTi's with at least one if not to L lens. Sometimes they'll have a 20D. I know 'cause they'll order it or come in and talk about it and I assume they have a nice camera and I wanna know and well, it's an XTi. But hey, it's cool with me. Just proves me right, get the XTi and with the lenses alone you got something. It's hard to sell XTi's at their price, but I manage.

And not to diss Nikon's, but I've always associated them as a hobby camera. Especially when the D40 and D80 come with a mini photoshop on the camera. Seriously...

[jaybird]

And pros spend a lot on professional-quality lenses. A lot more than they do on their camera bodies. If they already have so much money invested in glass, they are much less likely to switch, and they are also much less likely to jump for the "bells and whistles".

It's like one of my photography professors said: The lens is everything. Your camera just allows a certain amount of light to strike the film. Yeah, digital wasn't big there, at the time, but the same holds true. Your film is the ISO and mp resolution. The new camera release by Canon should have very, very, little noise.

[calicokat]

Yeah used 1ds

Time to get a 1DMII or N, the prices should be right

[calicokat]

And pros spend a lot on professional-quality lenses. A lot more than they do on their camera bodies. If they already have so much money invested in glass, they are much less likely to switch, and they are also much less likely to jump for the "bells and whistles".

It's like one of my photography professors said: The lens is everything. Your camera just allows a certain amount of light to strike the film. Yeah, digital wasn't big there, at the time, but the same holds true. Your film is the ISO and mp resolution. The new camera release by Canon should have very, very, little noise.

I know I will not be leaving Canon, I have too much invested in glass

[farrukh]

Time to get a 1DMII or N, the prices should be right

After reading the white paper of MKIII, not many would like to pay much for the MKII ;-) The MKII is suddenly looking an obsolete tech now :)

[_aravena]

Definitely, maybe it'll drop around 5D price? Or less??? Yes...less!!!

But I'm not much for settling, so I think I can play with the 30D until next year when, with all hope, I get a MkIII

[calicokat]

After reading the white paper of MKIII, not many would like to pay much for the MKII ;-) The MKII is suddenly looking an obsolete tech now :)

I disagree, the 1DMII and N are awesome cameras. Anyone who does not think so is only fooling themselves. They are not obsolete, they are great deals now

[CoolToolGuy]

Absolutely. Now the only chance that 40d can be delayed is because of sluggish Canon R&D. Few of my friends went with Nikon system with d200 because there was nothing convincing in that category from Canon

Perhaps, but I don't think so. The dust removal technology is out in two models now, the sensor is available from the 400D, and they should have been able to get the upgrade together by now. If it is sluggish R&D, perhaps it is because of all the effort required to get the 1D3 market-ready?

But this morning a troubling thought crossed my mind. Perhaps they have too many 30Ds in inventory, and they need to drain them off before they bring out the new model. They extended the rebate in the USA, and that was probably due to slow sales (not necessarily of the 30D alone), and they came up with a big, splashy campaign in Britain for 30D "kits". That bothers me a bit, because as good as the 30D is, for its price point they are behind the competition, and they stand to lose some customers that want to jump into digital at the prosumer level.

Have Fun,

[DizzyV6P]

Should be interesting to see what Canon finally releases. My nikon friends are already trying to convince me to sell out and get a D80 instead....lol. Hmm...tempting though. LOL. I'm holding onto my 300D until later this year.

[BradT0517]

Should be interesting to see what Canon finally releases. My nikon friends are already trying to convince me to sell out and get a D80 instead....lol. Hmm...tempting though. LOL. I'm holding onto my 300D until later this year.

Ill take that 580 EX for 100 dollars then.

[BradT0517]

Does the M3 have two CF slots or one Cf and one SD like the mark 2N.

[BradT0517]

I use an XTi and I love it and by no means would I consider myself a pro although some of my friends would. If I had the chance to get a 40D when I started I would have gotten that but announced the XTi.

[italypa99]

They did announce a 1DMIII.

do you know if they said anything about pricing for the 1DMIII ?

[Punisher77]

do you know if they said anything about pricing for the 1DMIII ?

$4K USD apparently.

[Juan Zas]

There are some references:

Germany -->> 4.292€
UK ---------->> 3.050 BP
Australia -->> 6.499 $AU
USA --------->> 3.999 - 4.500$

[I Simonius]

I voted no 40D this time, the 1DMIII is so huge of an announcement, we will see a 40D in the fall

What do you guys think, popular opinion counts

1Ds MkIII and a couple of new lenses, I say..
30D is still quite a new camera, we’ll have to wait for 40D at least until this fall..

nah they don't want te 400D pipping at the post much longer

[calicokat]

nah they don't want te 400D pipping at the post much longer

Thats true, we shall see whats next.................

[roqdawg]

I would like to see a 40D announced soon. I have pretty much comitted myself to going digital (or at least EOS)this year before I go on vacation at the end of May. I was waiting till PMA to decide on a body, and was hoping for a 40D, or 6D or at least something new to choose from that would be in my -$2000 price range.

Rebates, and new kit packages aside...if Canon really wanted to sell more 30D's and 5D's, they could have made the new body announcement before the rebates expired...if that was the case I would have probably bought 1 of those 2 bodies...as maybe alot of others waiting to jump in.
Now, I will not pay even more money for a body that will still be bettered in the next few months, but will probably end up buying a XTi...unless the price of the 30D/5D fall down near to the rebated price point in the coming months.
I'm giving it till April to if the Spring Rebates are any help...but I'm looking at a hard time frame that I will have to make a decision by.....so far it is looking XTi...oh well, less money for Canon.

BTW...with the Fall rebates extended, and new kit packages announced....do you think there will still be a Spring rebate?

Tom

[roqdawg]

Canon told the press that there would be no further cameras before or during PMA:
http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/canon_spring_launch_2007

Why does this statement sound a little dodgey to me........why didn't they say there would be no new bodies for the next several months, till the fall, or something firm like that....could be they are waiting for the next photo event or for a Spring announcement? As I said in previous post, they probably would have sold alot more 30D's and 5D's during the rebate period if people were not waiting for an upgrade that wasn't coming.
If the leaked (or guessed) 40D specs were a dissapointment now....how bad do you think they would be this Fall?. If Canon keeps to an 18 month refresh cycle on consumer bodies....the xxD will never be a more current model to the xxxD by more than 6 months, unless the xxD leapfrogs the xxxD and goes to a higher MP count or more advanced sensor, then the xxxD can follow it 6 months later. Probably not likely if the upgrade comes sooner rather than later.
I think the 18 month cycle is just co-incidence of timing and should not be looked at as the Gospel of timing.
Wasn't the 30D just a better built 350D/XT? Maybe the 40D is destined to be just a better 400D/XTi.

Also...the wild spectrum of rumors that were running out of control on the various forums up till that Canon comment is proof enuff to me that those spinning the rumor mill have absolutely no bases in fact for their wild fantasies...not then or now.

Tom

[calicokat]

Why does this statement sound a little dodgey to me........why didn't they say there would be no new bodies for the next several months, till the fall, or something firm like that....could be they are waiting for the next photo event or for a Spring announcement? As I said in previous post, they probably would have sold alot more 30D's and 5D's during the rebate period if people were not waiting for an upgrade that wasn't coming.
If the leaked (or guessed) 40D specs were a dissapointment now....how bad do you think they would be this Fall?. If Canon keeps to an 18 month refresh cycle on consumer bodies....the xxD will never be a more current model to the xxxD by more than 6 months, unless the xxD leapfrogs the xxxD and goes to a higher MP count or more advanced sensor, then the xxxD can follow it 6 months later. Probably not likely if the upgrade comes sooner rather than later.
I think the 18 month cycle is just co-incidence of timing and should not be looked at as the Gospel of timing.
Wasn't the 30D just a better built 350D/XT? Maybe the 40D is destined to be just a better 400D/XTi.

Also...the wild spectrum of rumors that were running out of control on the various forums up till that Canon comment is proof enuff to me that those spinning the rumor mill have absolutely no bases in fact for their wild fantasies...not then or now.

Tom

I would wait a few more weeks to see if anything else is released, but it does not appear that they will

[Juan Zas]

Last movements in the market shows offering the 30D with discounts at several places.
It looks like dealers are in a hurry and want to sell out stocks !! ;)

[Juan Zas]

Very Interesting observations coming from Geoff Costello at FM about if the 40D is still coming or not. I have already post the same conclusions before after researching several sources, and got the same conclusion:

"I have spent the last week checking / begging to sources who had leaked (or claimed to) on the 30D replacement (AKA 40D). However I can’t seem to get consistent information. The two most credible sources are saying:

• Source 1 - Canon underestimated the drop in the demand for the 30D and has significant stocks, so that they made a late decision to defer the 40D, drop the price of the 30D and market it strongly (lens packages, D80 like pricing in some markets etc). They now intend to have 4 DSLR announcements in the year of the EOS 20th anniversary – beginning March 2007 and ending February 2008. The 1D III (done), the 40D (mid year), the 1Ds III (August / September 2007) and the 5D replacement

• Source 2 - Canon had the 40D ready to go and ran the specifications (10.4mp 1.6 crop, Digic III, Antidust etc) past some very influential buyer reps and got the feedback that this would be a “me too” camera, seen as a catch-up to the competition with nothing much to differentiate it. This was not acceptable to Canon in the 20th anniversary year, where Canon’s DSLRs needed to be seen as defining the market. So they have sent the camera back for some specification updates and plan a release later this year. Updates being considered included 3 inch LCD, limited weather sealing, Wi Fi attachment option (as per the 1D III) and the next generation 12mp sensor. They may even surprise people by skipping the 40D name (e.g. 50D or 60D to make a point)"

[JohnnyG]

Why does this statement sound a little dodgey to me........why didn't they say there would be no new bodies for the next several months, till the fall, or something firm like that....could be they are waiting for the next photo event or for a Spring announcement? As I said in previous post, they probably would have sold alot more 30D's and 5D's during the rebate period if people were not waiting for an upgrade that wasn't coming.
If the leaked (or guessed) 40D specs were a dissapointment now....how bad do you think they would be this Fall?. If Canon keeps to an 18 month refresh cycle on consumer bodies....the xxD will never be a more current model to the xxxD by more than 6 months, unless the xxD leapfrogs the xxxD and goes to a higher MP count or more advanced sensor, then the xxxD can follow it 6 months later. Probably not likely if the upgrade comes sooner rather than later.
I think the 18 month cycle is just co-incidence of timing and should not be looked at as the Gospel of timing.
Wasn't the 30D just a better built 350D/XT? Maybe the 40D is destined to be just a better 400D/XTi.

Also...the wild spectrum of rumors that were running out of control on the various forums up till that Canon comment is proof enuff to me that those spinning the rumor mill have absolutely no bases in fact for their wild fantasies...not then or now.

Tom

And the problems with rumors are????

If it weren't for rumors there would be no excitement for the future from Canon as they are too Darn secretive and leave it to us to dream about what's coming. At least they could give us some hints!;)

[Billginthekeys]

those seems realistic estimates. but do you think they could even fit a 3" LCD on the X0D body?

[Juan Zas]

those seems realistic estimates. but do you think they could even fit a 3" LCD on the X0D body?

There is a 3" LCD in a IXUS 65, almost all screen, so who knows really !!! :eek:

I think that the big screens could be reserved to the top bodies, 1-Series.
For the rest, a 2,5" could be enough, although I believe that in this moment the LCD size is not really the main concerns about the "new middle segment body". The battle is with higher specs ....

So finally it looks like the "incremental or evolution model" from the 30D has been left in one side. So it could be possible that Canon is going to preserve its 18th life cycle of the 30D in the time in between ....

[calicokat]

There is a 3" LCD in a IXUS 65, almost all screen, so who knows really !!! :eek:

I think that the big screens could be reserved to the top bodies, 1-Series.
For the rest, a 2,5" could be enough, although I believe that in this moment the LCD size is not really the main concerns about the "new middle segment body". The battle is with higher specs ....

So finally it looks like the "incremental or evolution model" from the 30D has been left in one side. So it could be possible that Canon is going to preserve its 18th life cycle of the 30D in the time in between ....

I agree with the 2.5" LCD on the prosumer bodies, I do not think you could fit any controls on the back if it was 3"

[JohnnyG]

I agree with the 2.5" LCD on the prosumer bodies, I do not think you could fit any controls on the back if it was 3"
Smaller buttons perhaps? I would love 3" but we're just dreaming, right?

[calicokat]

Smaller buttons perhaps? I would love 3" but we're just dreaming, right?

People would complain about the small buttons :eek:

[JohnnyG]

People would complain about the small buttons :eek:
Probably true! My Dad used to say "they'de complain if they were hanged with a new rope!". Kind of says it all.;)

[Juan Zas]

Wonderful !!

We have then a general consensus about 2,5" LCD and big bottoms are fine !! :D :lol:

Canon is listening you !!

[Tom W]

Probably true! My Dad used to say "they'de complain if they were hanged with a new rope!". Kind of says it all.;)

Well, I would! An old rope stands a bit better (a very little bit) chance of breaking than would a new one. If I'm to be hanged, the best I could hope for is equipment failure.

Alternately, I can hope that Clint Eastwood is nearby and willing to shoot the rope in half like he did in one of those old western movies.

[JohnnyG]

Well, I would! An old rope stands a bit better (a very little bit) chance of breaking than would a new one. If I'm to be hanged, the best I could hope for is equipment failure.

Alternately, I can hope that Clint Eastwood is nearby and willing to shoot the rope in half like he did in one of those old western movies.

Actually, from what I understand but I've never proven, you know, that a new rope chafes the neck much more! An old rope is softer! I believe that Clint Eastwood movie was ;The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly! I think that's right. Great movie though. Clint starred with Eli Wallach. They had a scam going where Eli would be accused of a crime and Clint would turn him in for the reward. Later, when they went to hang him, Clint would shoot the rope and they would escape together and split the reward money. Probably the greatest western ever made. It's one of my favorite westerns and I have it on DVD. And, the 40D is still coming (to stay on subject)!

[calicokat]

Probably true! My Dad used to say "they'de complain if they were hanged with a new rope!". Kind of says it all.;)

LOL, thats pretty funny

[AliAyson]

A friend of mine works for a global company and many of her co-workers are based in Japan. According to my friend, one of her co-workers purchased a 40D last week in Japan. I would have thought that if the 40D was truly available in Japan this would have leaked by now, but she swears that this guy bought the 40d.

[JohnnyG]

A friend of mine works for a global company and many of her co-workers are based in Japan. According to my friend, one of her co-workers purchased a 40D last week in Japan. I would have thought that if the 40D was truly available in Japan this would have leaked by now, but she swears that this guy bought the 40d.

Maybe it was a 400D, the Rebel XTi? I guess that's possible but who knows, maybe they actually got a 40D. Stranger things have happened!

[calicokat]

A friend of mine works for a global company and many of her co-workers are based in Japan. According to my friend, one of her co-workers purchased a 40D last week in Japan. I would have thought that if the 40D was truly available in Japan this would have leaked by now, but she swears that this guy bought the 40d.

Thats very interesting

[AliAyson]

A description of 40D that my friends co-worker supposedly bought:

10 mega pixel sensor
2.5 inch LCD screen
dust cleaning sensor
a smaller camera size than the 30D

[BigBlueDodge]

Tell your friend that they bought a XTi, and certainly no 40D

[calicokat]

Tell your friend that they bought a XTi, and certainly no 40D

Let the masses believe :lol:

[roqdawg]

Tell your friend that they bought a XTi, and certainly no 40D

Don't they call the XTi the "Kiss" in Japan?

[calicokat]

Don't they call the XTi the "Kiss" in Japan?

I believe you are right

[BradT0517]

A friend of mine works for a global company and many of her co-workers are based in Japan. According to my friend, one of her co-workers purchased a 40D last week in Japan. I would have thought that if the 40D was truly available in Japan this would have leaked by now, but she swears that this guy bought the 40d.

Do they speak of the D40:lol:

[mogearnotalent]

didnt they say something like "no 40D", that doesnt mean no "50D"

[AliAyson]

I asked my friend again "Are you sure it wasn't a 400D?. She told me that she'd actually seen the camera herself and held it. I didn't realize that the guy who had it was over here in the U.S. visiting from Japan ( thought he was just telling her about it over the phone). I asked her again "Are you sure it didn't say '400D' and not '40D'" and she swore it said "40D" right on the front where the 20D or 30D normally is. My friend is definitely not the sort to exaggerate or lie about anything. When I told her that I couldn't believe that the news about the 40D would not have leaked, especially if this guy was actually about to go out and buy a 40D, she then questioned whether or not this guy might have gotten scammed with a counterfeit.

From all that I've been reading I honestly don't believe that this guy had a legimate 40D. There is just no way that it could get kept that quiet if it was now available in Japan.

[Billginthekeys]

I asked my friend again "Are you sure it wasn't a 400D?. She told me that she'd actually seen the camera herself and held it. I didn't realize that the guy who had it was over here in the U.S. visiting from Japan ( thought he was just telling her about it over the phone). I asked her again "Are you sure it didn't say '400D' and not '40D'" and she swore it said "40D" right on the front where the 20D or 30D normally is. My friend is definitely not the sort to exaggerate or lie about anything. When I told her that I couldn't believe that the news about the 40D would not have leaked, especially if this guy was actually about to go out and buy a 40D, she then questioned whether or not this guy might have gotten scammed with a counterfeit.

From all that I've been reading I honestly don't believe that this guy had a legimate 40D. There is just no way that it could get kept that quiet if it was now available in Japan.
as brad mentioned nikon does have a D40, he probably bought that and she just got the D mixed up. theres NO way that canon would have released the camera over there and no one would find out, heck we have a lot of members on this forum from japan, i think they would have done the service of telling us about it :lol:

[calicokat]

I agree with Bill, there would be much more fanfare if the 40D was released already anywhere in the world

[armichael@optonline.net]

i am waiting for the 6D!!

[calicokat]

i am waiting for the 6D!!

What will the 6D have in the way of specs :)

[3dallan]

Since the 40D seems to be on hold, let's take advantage of the time to let Canon know what we think. We need to speak to both Canon and Nikon
even handedly, and let them know that we will go with the first company to
come up with some seriously meaningful improvements, even if it requires a change of brand loyalties. Let me suggest a few things that aren't commonly
discussed.

!. We would be better prepared to shoot things in action if the burst speed was something like 7 f.ps.
2. We ought to be able to opt for a smaller file, say 1000 by 1500 if it would allow us to shoot 100 frame burst sequences, at 7 or 8 f.p.s.
3. We ought to be able to sync two cameras to within a 250th of a second with just a cable. This would allow stereo, and covering a short sports performance from two angles, or a wedding from two angles in sync.
4. A variation on stereo would be to shoot both a close zoom in and a wide angle with two cameras, mounted side by side, for news, sports and weddings.
By working with two cameras, the units could alternate, in 15 second duty
cycles, to keep shooting for many hundred of frames, as the other camera
clears its buffers.
5. A dual lens could be mounted to shoot side by side images in stereo on a
12 megapixel 3x2 EOS image chip. This would work with just one camera.

3D movies, from studios like Disney and Dreamworks show that 3D is coming back and needs to be incorporated in the next generation of digital cameras.
Action loops of a few seconds can be displayed like high res GIFs on websites.
This would blur the line between still caqmeras and ultra compact 1080P video
cameras, which now cost over $150,000 to custom build.

[coreypolis]

Since the 40D seems to be on hold, let's take advantage of the time to let Canon know what we think. We need to speak to both Canon and Nikon
even handedly, and let them know that we will go with the first company to
come up with some seriously meaningful improvements, even if it requires a change of brand loyalties. Let me suggest a few things that aren't commonly
discussed.

!. We would be better prepared to shoot things in action if the burst speed was something like 7 f.ps.
2. We ought to be able to opt for a smaller file, say 1000 by 1500 if it would allow us to shoot 100 frame burst sequences, at 7 or 8 f.p.s.
3. We ought to be able to sync two cameras to within a 250th of a second with just a cable. This would allow stereo, and covering a short sports performance from two angles, or a wedding from two angles in sync.
4. A variation on stereo would be to shoot both a close zoom in and a wide angle with two cameras, mounted side by side, for news, sports and weddings.
By working with two cameras, the units could alternate, in 15 second duty
cycles, to keep shooting for many hundred of frames, as the other camera
clears its buffers.
5. A dual lens could be mounted to shoot side by side images in stereo on a
12 megapixel 3x2 EOS image chip. This would work with just one camera.

3D movies, from studios like Disney and Dreamworks show that 3D is coming back and needs to be incorporated in the next generation of digital cameras.
Action loops of a few seconds can be displayed like high res GIFs on websites.
This would blur the line between still caqmeras and ultra compact 1080P video
cameras, which now cost over $150,000 to custom build.
:lol:

good luck with that

[BradT0517]

Since the 40D seems to be on hold, let's take advantage of the time to let Canon know what we think. We need to speak to both Canon and Nikon
even handedly, and let them know that we will go with the first company to
come up with some seriously meaningful improvements, even if it requires a change of brand loyalties. Let me suggest a few things that aren't commonly
discussed.

!. We would be better prepared to shoot things in action if the burst speed was something like 7 f.ps.
2. We ought to be able to opt for a smaller file, say 1000 by 1500 if it would allow us to shoot 100 frame burst sequences, at 7 or 8 f.p.s.
3. We ought to be able to sync two cameras to within a 250th of a second with just a cable. This would allow stereo, and covering a short sports performance from two angles, or a wedding from two angles in sync.
4. A variation on stereo would be to shoot both a close zoom in and a wide angle with two cameras, mounted side by side, for news, sports and weddings.
By working with two cameras, the units could alternate, in 15 second duty
cycles, to keep shooting for many hundred of frames, as the other camera
clears its buffers.
5. A dual lens could be mounted to shoot side by side images in stereo on a
12 megapixel 3x2 EOS image chip. This would work with just one camera.

3D movies, from studios like Disney and Dreamworks show that 3D is coming back and needs to be incorporated in the next generation of digital cameras.
Action loops of a few seconds can be displayed like high res GIFs on websites.
This would blur the line between still caqmeras and ultra compact 1080P video
cameras, which now cost over $150,000 to custom build.

Personally I found nothing that I think Canon or Nikon would venture into.

[Billginthekeys]

and certainly nothing that either of them are going to put into a consumer level body.