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Actionphotog
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 12:37
opened the lastest copy of American Photo a couple days ago and they have the 10 Best Wedding Photog's in the world listed so I thought wouldn't it be nice to list them and their web sites.

Denis Reggie ~ denisreggie.com (http://denisreggie.com)
Jeff Ascough ~ jeffascough.net (http://jeffascough.net)
Joe Buissink ~ joebuissink.com (http://joebuissink.com)
Bambi Cantrell ~ cantrellportrait.com (http://cantrellportrait.com)
Alisha & Brook Todd ~ alishabrook.com (http://alishabrook.com)
Christian Oth ~ christianothweddings.com (http://christianothweddings.com)
Stephen & Jennifer Bebb ~ tyingtheknot.net (http://tyingtheknot.net)
Jerry Ghionis ~ jerryghionis.com (http://jerryghionis.com)
David Beckstead ~ davidbeckstead.com (http://davidbeckstead.com)
Kevin Kubota ~ kkuphoto-design.com (http://kkuphoto-design.com)

Some of the photos I've seen on this web site are just a great as the people above.
So it really comes down to getting your name out there and getting a famous big name persons wedding.

picturecrazy
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 12:42
Yup, the saying goes: running a photography business is 80% business and 20% photography.

If you take crappy photos you can still do quite well if you have some really sharp business sense.

sapearl
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 12:50
Quite interesting - I think that Reggie has been up there for a number of years. I confess to not following this crowd.. I don't fly in that stratosphere myself ;) These are some real top notch folks.

I don't get the mag - out of curiousity do they list the criteria for determining the ranking?

jamiewexler
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 13:33
...
Some of the photos I've seen on this web site are just a great as the people above.
So it really comes down to getting your name out there and getting a famous big name persons wedding.

Say what you will about business vs talent, but I've seen a lot of the work of most of the folks above on a weekly basis, and they all have more talent in their pinky fingers than I have in my entire body!

oldshooter
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 13:55
opened the lastest copy of American Photo a couple days ago and they have the 10 Best Wedding Photog's in the world listed so I thought wouldn't it be nice to list them and their web sites.

Denis Reggie ~ denisreggie.com (http://denisreggie.com)
Jeff Ascough ~ jeffascough.net (http://jeffascough.net)
Joe Buissink ~ joebuissink.com (http://joebuissink.com)
Bambi Cantrell ~ cantrellportrait.com (http://cantrellportrait.com)
Alisha & Brook Todd ~ alishabrook.com (http://alishabrook.com)
Christian Oth ~ christianothweddings.com (http://christianothweddings.com)
Stephen & Jennifer Bebb ~ tyingtheknot.net (http://tyingtheknot.net)
Jerry Ghionis ~ jerryghionis.com (http://jerryghionis.com)
David Beckstead ~ davidbeckstead.com (http://davidbeckstead.com)
Kevin Kubota ~ kkuphoto-design.com (http://kkuphoto-design.com)

Some of the photos I've seen on this web site are just a great as the people above.
So it really comes down to getting your name out there and getting a famous big name persons wedding.

That is a list filled with pure talent.

But I would like to rephrase the question to "Name the ten best PHOT0GRAPHERS in the world".

With all due respect to their great talents, none of them would make it into the top 100!

Why, because the aesthetic value of wedding photography in comparison to other photographic pursuits is, and always has been seen in a lesser light.

All I ask is for you to think back in time and view the history of photography as a whole, and come up a wedding photographer's name with a name that rivals, Weston, Adams, Avedon, Penn, W. Eugene Smith. I am humbled by their genuis, with all due respect to the list of wedding greats you provided.


Warm regards,
Joe

Actionphotog
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 13:57
Tony Corbell picked the top ten, the artcial doesn't mention anything about how he picked them. Tony has been a photographer since the '70's and has a very impressive CV, So he knows his stuff.
I'm going to email the mag and ask what the criteria was and how he came up with these as the top ten.
Stay tuned.

jamiewexler
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 14:14
...
But I would like to rephrase the question to "Name the ten best PHOT0GRAPHERS in the world".

With all due respect to their great talents, none of them would make it into the top 100!...

While that may be true, I'd then like to see how many photogs on that list make the type of money that Reggie or Buissink do...

I saw Reggie speak last year, and he talked about a $50,000 wedding package be booked! :p

motogeno
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 14:19
That is a list filled with pure talent.

But I would like to rephrase the question to "Name the ten best PHOT0GRAPHERS in the world".

With all due respect to their great talents, none of them would make it into the top 100!

Why, because the aesthetic value of wedding photography in comparison to other photographic pursuits is, and always has been seen in a lesser light.

All I ask is for you to think back in time and view the history of photography as a whole, and come up a wedding photographer's name with a name that rivals, Weston, Adams, Avedon, Penn, W. Eugene Smith. I am humbled by their genuis, with all due respect to the list of wedding greats you provided.


Warm regards,
Joe
I understand what you are saying, and much can be learned by studying the great "photographers" and not just wedding photography, but the people in that list have much more than just good business sense. I drool over the images on those sites and there is definitely a phenomenal amount of pure genius in their photography. I will admit, however, that all of the marketing and self promoting and get rich dvd's and seminars do take a certain something away from wedding photography.:cry:

C.Steele
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 14:31
Lloyd and Jaime are both right IMHO. Those guys are all extremely talented for sure, but a lot of the reason they are where they are (and making big $$) is because of their marketing strategies and branding.

Also (and I may get flogged for this one) I think at least part of the reason for their stunning images is because they have elevated themselves to the point where they are shooting in stunning places. If you are shooting a wedding in a castle where everywhere you point your lens is absolutly gorgeous, with gorgeous lighting, then you will get some stunning images very easily. If you are shooting at the local Elks lodge however, you have to search a bit harder and be a bit more creative to get stunning images.

Honestly, the biggest obsticle I see in the way of some of the photogs here keeping them from huge success is...themselves. They don't believe they are worth more. They don't believe people in their area will pay more. They believe if they raise their prices it will kill their buisiness. And on, and on.

Mike Colon raised his prices from 10k to 20k in one year (may have been last year?) and he was scared to death, but he did it because he believed he was worth it. And guess what? His business grew!

I guarantee all those guys listed above feel like they are worth a million bucks...but they'll cut you a deal and do it for 20k:p

The biggest step in achieving greatness is believing you can.

(putting on my flame proof suit now)

Chris

oldshooter
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 14:37
While that may be true, I'd then like to see how many photogs on that list make the type of money that Reggie or Buissink do...

I saw Reggie speak last year, and he talked about a $50,000 wedding package be booked! :p

Hmm, I met and talked to Dennis Reggie last year myself. He is an incredibly talented photographer, but I was trained as a commercial photographer, and I recall Avedon making a million dollars for one shoot. Gregery Heisler's fees are likely up there to match his great talent. I worked for Larry Hutson early in my career and before he died in 1999 he was directing Budweiser commercials for a Million +.

But it is not all just about the money, I feel the importance of a photographer is in how he influenced the medium. In that regard many others have had more impact and importance. We live in an age of celebrity everything and it seems like a relative few get all the glory.

I for one refuse to worship at the shrine of the established, and in my own humble way value my customers, and appreciate their kindness and gratitude, perhaps even more that if I made $50,000 a wedding.

Warm regards,
Joe

LeesaB
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 14:42
Thanks for posting the list, I always like to look at others pics...but, I do wonder..what does it take to become on this list?

cosworth
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 14:47
All I ask is for you to think back in time and view the history of photography as a whole, and come up a wedding photographer's name with a name that rivals, Weston, Adams, Avedon, Penn, W. Eugene Smith. I am humbled by their genuis, with all due respect to the list of wedding greats you provided.


Warm regards,
Joe

Weddings don't have war, nudity, death, famous people, images everyone can relate to, conflict, models, historical moments etc.

Plus the wedding shots only appeal to the people that were at the wedding...

Capa shoots a wedding and everything is grainy and out of focus. Bresson shoots a wedding and all the shots are of people kissing and kids running around the cars parked out front.

Don't for one second think now famous photographers didn't do any weddings. Many of them did and those shots are long forgotten.

cosworth
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 14:48
Thanks for posting the list, I always like to look at others pics...but, I do wonder..what does it take to become on this list?


First requirement is American citizenship.

LeesaB
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 14:51
Ok, now that I have looked at each site...I have a couple questions...1. How do they get their pics on the cover of bridal magazines...and the next not so much a questions..but I have seen this much talent here..on this forum. SERIOUSLY....

LeesaB
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 14:51
First requirement is American citizenship.

Well..I have that...LOL what is number 2? LOL

oldshooter
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 14:54
Lloyd and Jaime are both right IMHO. Those guys are all extremely talented for sure, but a lot of the reason they are where they are (and making big $$) is because of their marketing strategies and branding.

Also (and I may get flogged for this one) I think at least part of the reason for their stunning images is because they have elevated themselves to the point where they are shooting in stunning places. If you are shooting a wedding in a castle where everywhere you point your lens is absolutly gorgeous, with gorgeous lighting, then you will get some stunning images very easily. If you are shooting at the local Elks lodge however, you have to search a bit harder and be a bit more creative to get stunning images.

Honestly, the biggest obsticle I see in the way of some of the photogs here keeping them from huge success is...themselves. They don't believe they are worth more. They don't believe people in their area will pay more. They believe if they raise their prices it will kill their buisiness. And on, and on.

Mike Colon raised his prices from 10k to 20k in one year (may have been last year?) and he was scared to death, but he did it because he believed he was worth it. And guess what? His business grew!

I guarantee all those guys listed above feel like they are worth a million bucks...but they'll cut you a deal and do it for 20k:p

The biggest step in achieving greatness is believing you can.

(putting on my flame proof suit now)

Chris

I agree, these big wedding guns have created a brand. But each and every one of the got a big break and shot a celebrity wedding, and got a ton of mileage out of doing it. Reggie with JFK Jr's wedding, Busslink with Kellsy Grammars wedding. Also like you say it doesn't hurt to shoot in an ideal tropical location, and may I add having the ideal famous subject helps too.

I saw in the Sunday NYT wedding section that Reggie shot Senator John's Kerry's wifes son's wedding over the weekend. Must be sweet!

Warm regards,
Joe

oldshooter
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 15:08
Weddings don't have war, nudity, death, famous people, images everyone can relate to, conflict, models, historical moments etc.

Plus the wedding shots only appeal to the people that were at the wedding...

Capa shoots a wedding and everything is grainy and out of focus. Bresson shoots a wedding and all the shots are of people kissing and kids running around the cars parked out front.

Don't for one second think now famous photographers didn't do any weddings. Many of them did and those shots are long forgotten.

I don't agree and here is why. A lot of the fame Reggie and others achieved was shooting celebrity weddings and their photos were used and published in national magazines. IE: JFK's wedding.

And yes some photographers that were famous in other areas shot weddings, but are they noted for those shots?

I think the celebrity wedding photographer as we now know it is a bit of a new phenomenon. Sure there was Rocky Gunn and Monte Zucker, but did they have the same stature as Reggie? What we may be seeing is something new and it may have a positive effect of the Wedding Industry itself. Maybe wedding photography is finally coming into it own as an art form.

Warm regards,
Joe

jamiewexler
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 15:10
Hmm, I met and talked to Dennis Reggie last year myself. He is an incredibly talented photographer, but I was trained as a commercial photographer, and I recall Avedon making a million dollars for one shoot. Gregery Heisler's fees are likely up there to match his great talent. I worked for Larry Hutson early in my career and before he died in 1999 he was directing Budweiser commercials for a Million +.

But it is not all just about the money, I feel the importance of a photographer is in how he influenced the medium. In that regard many others have had more impact and importance. We live in an age of celebrity everything and it seems like a relative few get all the glory.

I for one refuse to worship at the shrine of the established, and in my own humble way value my customers, and appreciate their kindness and gratitude, perhaps even more that if I made $50,000 a wedding.

Warm regards,
Joe


That may be so, and I for one am not impressed with a photographer because he/she is "famous", but the folks listed have paid their dues to reach the level of respect and success that they have achieved. A lot if it is great photography, a lot of it is great business and branding, both are important to success - and folks notice success.

What gets me is photogs on forums like this that snipe at folks just because someone noticed their talent and put their name in a magazine. I don't hear or see any "good for them"s, just a lot of "well so-and-so who makes $1000 per wedding is as good as they are". Just comes across as a lot of sour grapes.

And a requirement is not US citizenship - Jeff Ascough is from the UK, Jerry Ghionis is from AUS...

jamiewexler
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 15:16
Ok, now that I have looked at each site...I have a couple questions...1. How do they get their pics on the cover of bridal magazines...

Simple - they mail them to the editors...I had a friend over a couple of weeks ago who brought a couple of high end wedding magazines he and his partner were published in. The secret was to keep submitting quality photos until you get noticed.

Philco
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 15:41
It's not as if celebrities are prowling bridal shows looking for a photographer - so even though a celeb wedding may elevate one's status, you still have to have the celeb come to you in the first place, which I would dare say already means you're elevated to begin with.

In anycase, like I said in a different thread: The more you charge, the better looking your clientel and locations tends to become automatically. Average people at the elks lodge aren't going to shell out top dollar, so you bypass all of those by being expensive.

As an aside, has anyone besides me been kind of annoyed at the time it takes all of these flash sites to load? Some of them are difficult to navigate and seem extra fancy for fancy's sake. Image are great, but it's too much work in some cases to get at them.

LeesaB
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 15:44
they probably find the celebrity and offer things of cheap or free to get these jobs...

sapearl
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 15:44
That is a list filled with pure talent.

But I would like to rephrase the question to "Name the ten best PHOT0GRAPHERS in the world".

With all due respect to their great talents, none of them would make it into the top 100!

Why, because the aesthetic value of wedding photography in comparison to other photographic pursuits is, and always has been seen in a lesser light.

All I ask is for you to think back in time and view the history of photography as a whole, and come up a wedding photographer's name with a name that rivals, Weston, Adams, Avedon, Penn, W. Eugene Smith. I am humbled by their genuis, with all due respect to the list of wedding greats you provided.


Warm regards,
Joe

Good words Joe - and let's not also forget Margaret Bourke-White (wonderful Life Magazine covers) Eisenstadt, Steichen, Stieglitz, Cartier Bresson.... it's a long list, but my memory is short. :lol: - Stu

Grace
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 15:45
Simple - they mail them to the editors...I had a friend over a couple of weeks ago who brought a couple of high end wedding magazines he and his partner were published in. The secret was to keep submitting quality photos until you get noticed.

NOt to sound corny or buttkissingish, When are we gonna see your pics published Jamie :) I think you have quality work on a regular basis....although we haven't seen anything in a while- whatchoo doin man?

oldshooter
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 15:56
Good words Joe - and let's not also forget Margaret Bourke-White (wonderful Life Magazine covers) Eisenstadt, Steichen, Stieglitz, Cartier Bresson.... it's a long list, but my memory is short. :lol: - Stu

I stand humbly corrected.

Warm regards,
Joe

sapearl
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 16:04
.....In anycase, like I said in a different thread: The more you charge, the better looking your clientel and locations tends to become automatically. Average people at the elks lodge aren't going to shell out top dollar, so you bypass all of those by being expensive. .....

Perhaps we were reading the same thread ....;) .... but rich people are not stupid. Many of them got that way because they were quite the opposite and very discerning in who they hire for their services. And because they are not stupid, they're not going to hire somebody just because they are high priced. Oh, they may look but I can't believe they'll arbitrarily throw their money away on mediocre work just because of a fancy price tag - they're smarter than that.

Granted, this does work in some VERY select markets under the topic of "Marketting to the High End Bride." But there's only so much available in the food chain and there are a lot of us out there hustling.

And personally, I've made some excellent dollars working for good solid average folk at lodges, church halls and other venues. I mean no disrepect to you, but I get real tired of hearing that phrase about arbitrarily raising prices to astronomical levels just because you can. I've seen a couple of people put themselves out of business in my area with such a marketting plan. You have to understand your market. End of rant :evil: .

sapearl
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 16:06
I stand humbly corrected.

Warm regards,
Joe

Oh, no correction intended...;) ; just an enhancement to an excellent cadre of individuals. - Stu

LeesaB
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 16:17
Gotta agree with you Stu...we live in the same broad area...If I were to up my prices..no one would hire me..photogpraphers are like attorneys here..I beleive last count was 400 in my general area. Are we all the same, NOPE..but not many of my clients care about megapixels, camera or not. They want to talk money...Even if you try to tell them..the 500 dollar guy goes to Wal Mart for his developing, they don't care...they see the 500 dollar price.

So, to sway them...takes alot of work and if I were like so high..I would not even be considered..

CyberPet
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 16:28
Jeff A is a brit, as far as I know. But I do miss Yervant on that list.

oldshooter
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 16:35
Perhaps we were reading the same thread ....;) .... but rich people are not stupid. Many of them got that way because they were quite the opposite and very discerning in who they hire for their services. And because they are not stupid, they're not going to hire somebody just because they are high priced. Oh, they may look but I can't believe they'll arbitrarily throw their money away on mediocre work just because of a fancy price tag - they're smarter than that.

Granted, this does work in some VERY select markets under the topic of "Marketting to the High End Bride." But there's only so much available in the food chain and there are a lot of us out there hustling.

And personally, I've made some excellent dollars working for good solid average folk at lodges, church halls and other venues. I mean no disrepect to you, but I get real tired of hearing that phrase about arbitrarily raising prices to astronomical levels just because you can. I've seen a couple of people put themselves out of business in my area with such a marketting plan. You have to understand your market. End of rant :evil: .

Good advice!

When I began my own career as a commercial photographer some 30 years ago it was basically not condoned that a commercial photographer would even accept a wedding assignment. No one wanted to be typcast in that mold. After 10 years in the business I had art director friends and marketing directors ask me to shoot their wedding as a personal favor. I found I enjoyed shooting weddings, and it was a nice change of pace from commercial and editorial work. And I think it made me a better photographer over all, to meet the demands of shooting weddings. I know I learned to be patient that's for sure!

The Talented crop of wedding photographers on the beginning of this post are a souce of new inspiration for me in the wedding photography aspect of my life.

Warm regards,
Joe

Philco
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 16:36
Hey Stu-
Before you think I might be advocating an elitist business strategy, I want to say that I think everybody has to work their way up. It's not as if upstarts can come out with $4k per wedding prices right out of the gate. Those that manage to grow their business and improve their portfolio deserve to charge more over time and that's when the sort of darwinian effect kicks in regarding the looks and the locations. I don't think it's a marketing strategy so much as it is a natural progression for full time professionals in markets that will bear it. That being said, I don't think folks with a large wedding budget are automatically wealthy or intelligent by default.

I've noticed that when pro's reach that level, two things happen: they raise their prices and shoot less weddings, effectively earning well but working less. Maybe demands dips, I don't know (and I doubt it in many markets) but the bottom line is the pro is able to be choosier about which clients to work with and it becomes another way of maintaining a high-end portfolio.

coreypolis
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 16:42
Gary's ideas on it:
http://www.xanga.com/garyfong1/572112343/item.html


Jeff Ascough, (UK)
Jerry Ghionis, (Australia)
Steve and Jen Bebb (Canada, but technically Americans?) and OSPers

Where's Colon, Becker, Yervant, Huy Nguyen, Marcus Bell, the Nudds, Lacours, Gino L, DJ, Jessica Claire, Jessica Strickland?

A popularity contest? Maybe. But then again, maybe not.

Steve and I are incredibly honored to be among this group of photographers and we are just thrilled that American PHOTO included us.

As the most unexpected of the top 10 I wanted to add a couple of thoughts. We didn't lobby for this spot, in fact we didn't know anything about the list until the time came for the interview. Several people contributed names to a larger list of photographers - that list was then narrowed down to 25, and from the 25 the editors at American PHOTO chose the 10.

According to Tony Corbell who wrote the article, while we don't have the industry recognition that some of the folks do, we have created a body of consistently good work that has not gone unnoticed. I don't say this to pat myself on the back, but rather to drive home a point that Tony made to Steve and I: if you do great work, you will eventually get noticed and rewarded.

So, while there are some folks that maybe should have made the final list, I think it's pretty cool that someone like us, without a "name" has made it. And I also think that speaks volumes about the editors at American PHOTO that they chose to go outside the expected list of wedding photographers and find a studio like ours - that's what makes this especially rewarding for us. It was our body of work that got us here and not our status in the industry - that's the biggest honour of all for me.

So...popularity contest? Not for us.

newgenphoto
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 18:10
Gary's ideas on it:
http://www.xanga.com/garyfong1/572112343/item.html
Where's Colon, Becker, Yervant, Huy Nguyen, Marcus Bell, the Nudds, Lacours, Gino L, DJ, Jessica Claire, Jessica Strickland?

Ditto dude.... especially Yervant. Ghionis and Yervant have been pretty much taking all the catgories at WPPI competition the last couple of years.

mmahoney
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 18:41
The discussion so far centered around the $$$$$$$$$$$, but what about the techniques & styles have gotten them to where they are?

I'd like to know how these guys work, not how much they charge .. the images are riviting and it's easy to see how they command big bucks, but how do they create the images that make them successful?
Mike

Mike

sapearl
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 19:02
Hey Stu-
Before you think I might be advocating an elitist business strategy, I want to say that I think everybody has to work their way up. It's not as if upstarts can come out with $4k per wedding prices right out of the gate. Those that manage to grow their business and improve their portfolio deserve to charge more over time and that's when the sort of darwinian effect kicks in regarding the looks and the locations......

....I've noticed that when pro's reach that level, two things happen: they raise their prices and shoot less weddings, effectively earning well but working less. .....the pro is able to be choosier about which clients to work with and it becomes another way of maintaining a high-end portfolio.

Philco... no, I didn't believe you were pushing elitism here and I hope it doesn't feel like I was singling you out; not my intent. I just have these curmudgeonly old buttons that get pushed now and then about a few subjects ;) .

Every year when my tax guy works on my photo ledger, he always tells me that it's far better to do 10 $5000 weddings in a year than 50 $1000 weddings. Well, truth be told I'm not even doing that. But what he is saying is to "work smarter." I'm all for that.

For my skill level and the amount of work I put into each job I do consider myself a $5K wedding photographer, and I try to act the part. But unfortunately the local client "ecology" cannot realistically support my attitude, so I make adjustments. And because I'm not willing to fly out to those high bridal market areas, I have put some limitations on myself.

I certainly do agree with your points about the pricing scale being a "natural progression". I'd be lying if I said this were not MY goal too. I'm always striving to elevate my craft, level of service and certainly the price tag that goes with it. But following your Darwinian example, such a market plan has to progress intelligently and in stages.

coreypolis
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 19:21
The discussion so far centered around the $$$$$$$$$$$, but what about the techniques & styles have gotten them to where they are?

I'd like to know how these guys work, not how much they charge .. the images are riviting and it's easy to see how they command big bucks, but how do they create the images that make them successful?
Mike

Mike
pay a couple grand and take their seminars to find out;)

[rabbit trail ]
and to think joe b ws going around with marcus bell for 199 a day. makes me sick I couldn't go. supposedly DJ is setting up a seminar where he's in charge, instead of Pictage or Brooks etc, and will be bring in some other guns. He posted a poll and I think Jess Claire and becker were winning out, which would be awesome, but who knows for sure. Having him and becker do it would be the ultimate, 2 very very different approaches on the business die, but both as successful as you can get. [/rabbit trail :cool: ]

photography isn't something where you can easily compare styles or define whos the best. Hell it made it difficult going to school for it and receiving grades. who gets to decide what a shot is worth? One set of classes gave $ instead of a grade, based on what the market would actually pay in theory, and at the end of the term total $ was calculated on a curve and a grade assigned.

Eoseni
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 21:41
I have several thoughts on this:

Raw talent is a gift. But it's raw. Untapped, it will remain fruitless. Since we can admire their body of work, it is because they worked hard at honing their talents. Many of us here are doing just that ...that's our reason being here. So we're only moving forward.

I believe to be among the best, you have to put your heart and soul into it. Dedication, passion, tears, sweat and blood. It's true they have talent, but the best have paid their dues. It's the rule more than the exception.

I believe pricing alone cannot promote a business, at least, not for the long run.

sapearl
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 22:10
Anybody else have problems accessing Kevin Kubota's site from the supplied link?

liza
22nd of February 2007 (Thu), 22:28
Say what you will about business vs talent, but I've seen a lot of the work of most of the folks above on a weekly basis, and they all have more talent in their pinky fingers than I have in my entire body!

They are a talented lot, Jamie. That is for sure. I'm particularly envious of Beckstead's style. :)

Well..I have that...LOL what is number 2? LOL

Years of experience. It takes time as well as talent, and dedication to become that good.

Jeff A is a brit, as far as I know. But I do miss Yervant on that list.

The omission of Yervant is, IMO, quite glaring.

islandphoto
23rd of February 2007 (Fri), 02:32
Interesting thread. Thanks for posting the links. I really enjoy Bambi's site :) I also can't get on to Kevin Kubota's site.

Actionphotog
23rd of February 2007 (Fri), 10:57
I think we can all agree that it takes time to build a solid wedding portfolio. I think all on the list should be on it, it's not like they started in the last year or two and now they are on top. They worked for it. Yeah we all know a photog that we feel should be on it but even if it was a list of 25 or 50 there would be someone missing.

We can debate technique/style/$$
But in the end it takes time to get your name out there along with adjusting your prices and products.
Your final product and the happy brides word of mouth goes a very long way.

And if all else fails
There's always pet photography LOL

grego
23rd of February 2007 (Fri), 11:14
No Huy? I mean he definitely should be in there.
http://www.f8studio.com/f8/html/viewHuy.html

david lee
23rd of February 2007 (Fri), 12:00
opened the lastest copy of American Photo a couple days ago and they have the 10 Best Wedding Photog's in the world listed so I thought wouldn't it be nice to list them and their web sites.

Denis Reggie ~ denisreggie.com (http://denisreggie.com)
Jeff Ascough ~ jeffascough.net (http://jeffascough.net)
Joe Buissink ~ joebuissink.com (http://joebuissink.com)
Bambi Cantrell ~ cantrellportrait.com (http://cantrellportrait.com)
Alisha & Brook Todd ~ alishabrook.com (http://alishabrook.com)
Christian Oth ~ christianothweddings.com (http://christianothweddings.com)
Stephen & Jennifer Bebb ~ tyingtheknot.net (http://tyingtheknot.net)
Jerry Ghionis ~ jerryghionis.com (http://jerryghionis.com)
David Beckstead ~ davidbeckstead.com (http://davidbeckstead.com)
Kevin Kubota ~ kkuphoto-design.com (http://kkuphoto-design.com)

Some of the photos I've seen on this web site are just a great as the people above.
So it really comes down to getting your name out there and getting a famous big name persons wedding.

Very surprised that Yervant isnt on that list http://www.yervant.com/

coreypolis
23rd of February 2007 (Fri), 12:09
No Huy? I mean he definitely should be in there.
http://www.f8studio.com/f8/html/viewHuy.html
yeah, he's so humble he said he wasn't even in the top ten of his zipcode.

Actionphotog
26th of February 2007 (Mon), 11:03
Well I recieved an email from Tony Corbell

"The criteria was simply to take a close look at who is out there doing cutting edge work. Not the solid journeyman or well-known photographers doing the day in and day out stuff so to speak, but those who are truly doing new things and pushing the boundaries of what is "now." "

Works for me.
I would be curious to know how many emails he got over this list LOL

Yella Fella
26th of February 2007 (Mon), 12:26
Absolutely love Denis Reggie and Jeff Ascough's work

again surprised that yervant aint amongst the top there!

NBEast
26th of February 2007 (Mon), 21:27
Isn't 10, really, too short a list? If it were top 100, the difference between #1 and #50 would be pretty subjective.

I'm with Jamie however; they're all super talented and BS marketing only gets one so far - and that's nowhere's near such a list put together by anyone credible.

Thanks so much for the list.