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Jesper
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 02:29
I'm usually using Capture One LE to convert my 10D RAW images, but yesterday I installed BreezeBrowser (v2.8 ) to see how it works and if it's useful - I was mainly hoping that it would be better at browsing images than C1.

I looked at some colorful flower photos with BB. I immediately noticed that the colors in BB look awful! :o Very pale and undersaturated. I looked at the color settings and it had my monitor profile wrong (I don't understand why it doesn't just use the profile I've set in Windows?). When I set it correctly the colors still were just as bad.

Did anyone else notice this? Is there any way to get better colors in BB?

I also noticed that the images looked very sharp in BB. Does it heavily sharpen images? How do I control sharpening in BB?

For now I'm disappointed with BB, it doesn't display my photos well and I feel I don't have as much control over the conversion process as with C1.... :?

PeterS45
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 03:24
Did you add the desired color profile in the preferences??? When I convert my RAW-files into JPG with BreezeBrowser it uses my monitor profile if I want it to.

Jesper
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 05:26
Yes, I chose File / Preferences / Image Display, Enable monitor color profile, and selected my monitor profile. Unfortunately it didn't help a lot.... :?

PeterS45
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 05:31
Yes, I chose File / Preferences / Image Display, Enable monitor color profile, and selected my monitor profile. Unfortunately it didn't help a lot.... :?

What you should do is choose File/Preferences/Raw Conversion/ and activate the option "Embed color profile in images......". The sharpening is set in File/Preferences/Image Display in the field HQ Strength.

I don't know exactly how it works with the 10D, but converting RAW pictures from my G3 delivers great colors.

sdommin
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 07:14
I don't know exactly how it works with the 10D, but converting RAW pictures from my G3 delivers great colors.

I agree. Works great for my G3 RAW stuff.

scottbergerphoto
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 07:21
I use BB in a color managed system, shoot Adobe RGB(10D), and everything looks great! Sorry to hear your having problems. Have you asked for support at www.breezesys.com?
Regards,
Scott

Jesper
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 08:31
Yes, I chose File / Preferences / Image Display, Enable monitor color profile, and selected my monitor profile. Unfortunately it didn't help a lot.... :?

What you should do is choose File/Preferences/Raw Conversion/ and activate the option "Embed color profile in images......". The sharpening is set in File/Preferences/Image Display in the field HQ Strength.

I don't know exactly how it works with the 10D, but converting RAW pictures from my G3 delivers great colors.

I don't have that option for setting the sharpening strength that you describe.... there is no "HQ Strength" in the dialog box.

When I do a RAW conversion with BB, the color in the converted image looks OK - almost identical to what I see in CaptureOne. It is only the color of the preview image that looks bad. Especially the yellow of the flowers looks clearly less saturated in the preview image. Strange that the color of the preview image is different than from the actual converted image. In CaptureOne, what I see in the preview is exactly what I get in the converted image. If the preview doesn't show what you're going to get, there's no way you can accurately set saturation and other parameters for the conversion.....

By the way, I do have a calibrated and profiled monitor (using a Spyder).

PeterS45
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 08:42
As far as the preview is concerned you're right, the quality isn't great. But the final result is and that's what counts isn't it?

The sharpening setting is something new in the newest beta-version and I don't if it's available for download for everybody yet.

MichaelE
28th of March 2004 (Sun), 08:57
I haven't had that problem with it. I still use it quite a bit despite the fact that I use PS CS and a whole raft of other utils as well.

Roger_Cavanagh
29th of March 2004 (Mon), 08:06
When you are browsing raw files with BB, it is the embedded JPG that is displayed. This will reflect the settings for colour space, saturation, etc. that were in force when you took the picture. If you convert using different settings, then the images will not look the same. When you are in the raw conversion window, you should get a much better match, but, of course, you can't browse.

C1 creates its own preview from the raw files and so you get a much better match between the previews and the conversion at the expense of having to wait for the previews to be created and the additional space they take up.

Regards,

Jesper
29th of March 2004 (Mon), 12:11
Thanks Roger...

So I can choose between quick but not very accurate browsing using the embedded JPEG with BB or slow but accurate with C1.... :roll:

CyberDyneSystems
29th of March 2004 (Mon), 12:31
I use BB ONLY for browsing and exif and stuff...

I do all my "work" with C1 LE and PSCS.