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khoon
29th of March 2004 (Mon), 10:28
I recently purchased the EOS Digital rebel, and was disappointed that it does not have the capability to take black & white picture (my $250 Konica does)!
Does anyone have a work-around, or a trick that would set the camera for b&w photography?

jfretless
29th of March 2004 (Mon), 11:12
I see that 17 people viewed this post before I did and can only imagine 17 people biting their lips trying not to scream at you.

If there is one thing I would say is a must when visiting a forum such as this one...

Please do a search. I guarantee you that it, like most questions, have been answered ten times before.

John

5 Type
29th of March 2004 (Mon), 11:13
I would say.... Use Photoshop in post-process.

Belmondo
29th of March 2004 (Mon), 11:24
Ignore any answer that makes reference to black and white CF cards.

As with all things, there's an easy way, and a proper way.

The easy way is to open your image in Photoshop Elements, and either convert the image to grayscale, or desaturate completely. If you were satisfied with the results of your $250 Konica, then these methods will be all you will need

The good ways are numerous, and they have in fact all been covered many times in this forum. Processes like converting to lab color or using channel mixer all produce excellent results, but do different things to the image. If you can't find these methods by using the 'search' fetaure above, let us know, and we'll point you in the right direction.

Good luck.

roanjohn
29th of March 2004 (Mon), 11:30
Buy a G3 :lol: :lol: :lol:

P.S. It also doesn't do video...............in case you didn't notice.

Ro1

timmyquest
29th of March 2004 (Mon), 11:58
Buy a G3 :lol: :lol: :lol:

P.S. It also doesn't do video...............in case you didn't notice.

Ro1

I'll never forget the day someone said "How much as that? A thousand dollars, wow. How well does it shoot video? IT DOESNT SHOOT VIDEO! AND YOU PAID WHAT FOR THAT?!"

garethhhhh
29th of March 2004 (Mon), 12:11
Buy a G3 :lol: :lol: :lol:

P.S. It also doesn't do video...............in case you didn't notice.

Ro1

I'll never forget the day someone said "How much as that? A thousand dollars, wow. How well does it shoot video? IT DOESNT SHOOT VIDEO! AND YOU PAID WHAT FOR THAT?!"

LOL! :lol:
Some people just don't get it...

msvadi
30th of March 2004 (Tue), 11:35
The thing with in-camera digital black and white is that it's "mathematically correct" but "aesthetically wrong". With a DSLR it is assumed that you want to post-process your images. So, if you want black and white you should do it yourself in photoshop.

Check out the Russel Brown web site.
http://www.russellbrown.com/tips/photoshop.html
You'll find there everything you need to know about how to convert color to black and white:
http://www.russellbrown.com/tips/pdf/colortoB&W.pdf

RichardtheSane
30th of March 2004 (Tue), 16:57
The thing with in-camera digital black and white is that it's "mathematically correct" but "aesthetically wrong". With a DSLR it is assumed that you want to post-process your images. So, if you want black and white you should do it yourself in photoshop.

I'd like to agree & say the dame thing but using alternative words.

In camera B&W looks absolute crap to most people.

post process = more fun. :)

drisley
30th of March 2004 (Tue), 20:45
I'll never forget the day someone said "How much as that? A thousand dollars, wow. How well does it shoot video? IT DOESNT SHOOT VIDEO! AND YOU PAID WHAT FOR THAT?!"

Hehe, no kidding.
Although that question usually follows the "how many megapixels is it" question.
:roll: :twisted:

Mike H
30th of March 2004 (Tue), 22:24
I see that this is your first post in this forum. Welcome. I hope that you find it to be as helpful as I do.

Regarding black and white, a search on here will get you some information, but I also recommend doing a web search. I don't have a better answer for you than the suggestions made already, but want to assure you that files from your camera can be turned into high quality black and white images. People who know how to turn color digital images into black and whites do it all the time! It will just be a matter of putting in the time to get up the learning curve.

Again, welcome to the forum!

Mike

drisley
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 00:59
Yes, as Mike says, welcome to the forum!
It's the best of it's kind as far as I can tell.
8)
I also highly recommend using the Russell Brown B&W technique.
You will get much better looking B&W than you would directly from any camera.

timmyquest
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 01:14
I'll never forget the day someone said "How much as that? A thousand dollars, wow. How well does it shoot video? IT DOESNT SHOOT VIDEO! AND YOU PAID WHAT FOR THAT?!"

Hehe, no kidding.
Although that question usually follows the "how many megapixels is it" question.
:roll: :twisted:

Indeed they did, then they went on about sonys new mega megapixle camera and how it was better then mine...at which point i asked the kid

"Have you ever owned an SLR?"

"whats that?"

"thats what i thought, now shut the F*** up and go back to playing HALO"

khoon
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 09:28
Just wanted to express my gratitude to those that provided straight answers to my question about B&W photography. I appreciate your assitance!

To some of the nasty wise-asses out there - I hope some day, life offers you something to be proud of - and you don't have to resort to a mere forum to inflate your (what is evidently) terribly defunct egos.

Mikesht
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 10:06
Welcome to this forum, and don't get upset too much. One thing I can tell you: people here are much less aggressive then some other forums I visited and this question did come up about 100 times already.
As far as subject of your question, your camera expects much more from you than point-and-shoot camera does, but it can give you lots more too- if you know what you are doing.
There are different ways to make black and white images out of your color pics. For example you can just swich to Grayscale mode in Photoshop or any other program. But I like to use a program- plugin to Photoshop- called ConwertBWPro (I think, I will have to check). What that tdoes is not only gives you much more control over the whole process, but as a side bonus, it can let you imitate different kinds of pro black and white film- Ilford or Agfa or whatever. It is really neat, and not expensive as I recall.
Good luck with whatewer path you choose.

Belmondo
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 10:10
Just wanted to express my gratitude to those that provided straight answers to my question about B&W photography. I appreciate your assitance!

To some of the nasty wise-asses out there - I hope some day, life offers you something to be proud of - and you don't have to resort to a mere forum to inflate your (what is evidently) terribly defunct egos.

Khoon:

PM sent.
Chill---you're among friends.

Tom

msvadi
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 10:20
By the way, getting "right" or good quality black and white requires some experience. It's important to know how "right" black and white is supposed to look and that comes from film photography. I would suggest to go to a book store and browse through the photography section. It's good to buy a few albums with black and white pictures to have some examples that you can try to copy.