Crumpler The Whiskey And Cox

[JaGWiRE]

Anyone own one of these? I looked at in the store, and it might be my next backpack as I need something to fit a laptop now. It's pretty cool. I can't remember if it had more then one compartment (would be nice to put a small tripod in like the one i created a thread about a minute ago -- the kirk mighty low boy), but anyway, I was curious if anyone had some comments about this bag, or owned one. I think it holds a lot more then my mini trekker probably does.

[Greg_C]

Actually its the Whickey & Cox. I did a review of it a while ago. It's still my main bag. It will hold more than a Minitrekker and about the same as the Computrekker.There is really only the main compartment, apart from the laptop sleeve that is. It does have small pockets on either side but these won't hold much apart from filters, spare batteries, leads etc.

You might be able to squeeze the tripod inside but I wouldn't. It'll hand from the bag but the attachment isn't as good as the Lowepro's. I've never slung my tripod from it as I have a Manfrotto 190Pro with a 488RC2 - bigger and heavier.

See my full review here.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2388209#post2388209
Can post pics if you want??

[JaGWiRE]

Actually its the Whickey & Cox. I did a review of it a while ago. It's still my main bag. It will hold more than a Minitrekker and about the same as the Computrekker.There is really only the main compartment, apart from the laptop sleeve that is. It does have small pockets on either side but these won't hold much apart from filters, spare batteries, leads etc.

You might be able to squeeze the tripod inside but I wouldn't. It'll hand from the bag but the attachment isn't as good as the Lowepro's. I've never slung my tripod from it as I have a Manfrotto 190Pro with a 488RC2 - bigger and heavier.

See my full review here.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2388209#post2388209
Can post pics if you want??

Sure -- pics would be nice.
You don't think my 3001pro (aka 190CL) would be able to be attached? I don't know how it goes on the bag (if you could post a photo how you can attach a tripo i'd appreciate it).
BTW, I was talking about if there was a place to maybe hold this tripod inside the bag http://www.kirkphoto.com/MightyLowBoy.html (not sure if I'll get it, but it's cool, less then a foot long fully extended.) The laptop compartment is probably the best place I guess.

[Greg_C]

Ok, here we go

Inside -- as you can see it's kinda packed.:oops: :D
http://www.steadyhands.net/share/image19129.jpg

Outside of the bag. One loop and one clasp.
http://www.steadyhands.net/share/image19130.jpg

With a Manfrotto 190Pro + 488RC2. One leg slipped through the loop at the bottom and the clasp around the top. I might have to eat my words, I've never bothered to do this before and it actually attached better than the Lowepro ones - the top isn't as loose on the Crumpler. This is bag is now offically HEAVY. No way would I want to include my laptop inside at the same time - you couldn't lift the bag, let alone put it on you back.
http://www.steadyhands.net/share/image19132.jpg

[JaGWiRE]

Ok, here we go

Inside -- as you can see it's kinda packed.:oops: :D
http://www.steadyhands.net/share/image19129.jpg

Outside of the bag. One loop and one clasp.
http://www.steadyhands.net/share/image19130.jpg

With a Manfrotto 190Pro + 488RC2. One leg slipped through the loop at the bottom and the clasp around the top. I might have to eat my words, I've never bothered to do this before and it actually attached better than the Lowepro ones - the top isn't as loose on the Crumpler. This is bag is now offically HEAVY. No way would I want to include my laptop inside at the same time - you couldn't lift the bag, let alone put it on you back.
http://www.steadyhands.net/share/image19132.jpg

That is unbelievable! Can you take photos or let me know what other compatrments there are? I am thinking of getting the low boy tripod which is 11" folded and curious if it could fit anywhere. I also have a gorillapod I'de like to stash in.
I love the fact that you can unzip and get your gear out, without removing the tripod (something foreign to my mini trekker aw, which has a tripod mount on the front with bungee cords, which don't work so well, which blocks the zipper.)
Looks like this bag is going to be mine very very soon. I have a 3001 myself and it looks pretty good according to that photo. Does it hold well / not much shake when you walk with it?
Thanks!
BTW, looks like you could re-arrange your stuff and get even more in that bag possibly, haha.

Also, you can put the 580ex vertically, along with the 30 1.4, right? I am curious if this bag is as deep as my mini trekker.

[Greg_C]

That is unbelievable! Can you take photos or let me know what other compatrments there are? I am thinking of getting the low boy tripod which is 11" folded and curious if it could fit anywhere. I also have a gorillapod I'de like to stash in.
I love the fact that you can unzip and get your gear out, without removing the tripod (something foreign to my mini trekker aw, which has a tripod mount on the front with bungee cords, which don't work so well, which blocks the zipper.)
Looks like this bag is going to be mine very very soon. I have a 3001 myself and it looks pretty good according to that photo. Does it hold well / not much shake when you walk with it?
Thanks!
BTW, looks like you could re-arrange your stuff and get even more in that bag possibly, haha.

Also, you can put the 580ex vertically, along with the 30 1.4, right? I am curious if this bag is as deep as my mini trekker.

There are really no more photos to take.:D The only other compartments are the side pockets see in the second shot. You might be able to slip a gorillapod into a side pocket but it would a very tight fit. I think you tripod is going to have to go on the front, no other place for it.

The bag carries on your shoulders very very well. It seems to carry lower on your back than the Lowepro bags do. I think it is because of the tapered shape of this bag. The bag is only the same depth as the Minitrekker where the camera sits, because the bag tapers from bottom to top. ie you couldn't rearrange things to put the camera at the top - it's just not deep enough here.

This placement of the camera is my on gripe. It makes getting the camera in and out a chore. The bottom of the back folds back around so to get the camera in and out you have to put it in at an angle.

Yes the 580 could go where the 30 AND the 50 are. I seem to remember taking out one divider along with the mesh bag that sits at the top where the 580 is now.

[JaGWiRE]

There are really no more photos to take.:D The only other compartments are the side pockets see in the second shot. You might be able to slip a gorillapod into a side pocket but it would a very tight fit. I think you tripod is going to have to go on the front, no other place for it.

The bag carries on your shoulders very very well. It seems to carry lower on your back than the Lowepro bags do. I think it is because of the tapered shape of this bag. The bag is only the same depth as the Minitrekker where the camera sits, because the bag tapers from bottom to top. ie you couldn't rearrange things to put the camera at the top - it's just not deep enough here.

This placement of the camera is my on gripe. It makes getting the camera in and out a chore. The bottom of the back folds back around so to get the camera in and out you have to put it in at an angle.

Yes the 580 could go where the 30 AND the 50 are. I seem to remember taking out one divider along with the mesh bag that sits at the top where the 580 is now.
I mean't, could you place the 30 upwards instead of horizontally, and the 580ex pouch too?
Also, you think the gorilla pod or low boy tripod could fit if you zipped up the inner mesh (that lays ontop of your gear) ontop of that mesh (might damage gear though, not sure.)
Maybe in the laptop compartment with the macbook in there (takes up little space.)
BTW, how big are the side pockets? If they were narrow, but had some good depth, I think the mini tripod or gorilla pod could fit in.

[Poindexter]

I apologize, I didn't read the whole thread, but does this bag come with anykind of water-proofing/repelling?

I'm rapidly becoming a Crumpler fan and am thinking about a backpack now. There's always that concern of getting caught in a freak shower while away from shelter.

[efroten]

I apologize, I didn't read the whole thread, but does this bag come with anykind of water-proofing/repelling?

I'm rapidly becoming a Crumpler fan and am thinking about a backpack now. There's always that concern of getting caught in a freak shower while away from shelter.


They do NOT have a rain cover built in like many lowepros and other bags do, but I believe the bags are made with a water resistant material. So smal amounts of water will be ok, but you dont want to walk around in the rain with one. There must be some sort of covering you can buy though.

[JaGWiRE]

They do NOT have a rain cover built in like many lowepros and other bags do, but I believe the bags are made with a water resistant material. So smal amounts of water will be ok, but you dont want to walk around in the rain with one. There must be some sort of covering you can buy though.
Are you sure? I might be walking around in rain (not like a huge storm, but it might be pouring). The bag itself looks pretty damn resistant, I don't think anything would happen to it or your gear if it got wet.
Speaking of which, I'd think the laptop part would get wet before your gear.

[JaGWiRE]

BTW, would it be possible to somehow attach a monopod to the bag?

[Greg_C]

Are you sure? I might be walking around in rain (not like a huge storm, but it might be pouring). The bag itself looks pretty damn resistant, I don't think anything would happen to it or your gear if it got wet.
Speaking of which, I'd think the laptop part would get wet before your gear.
The material on the bag is very tightly woven and doesn't seem to absorbe water all that well. Water tends to bead on the bag, but I'm not about to take it out an a tropical down pour to fully test it.

BTW, would it be possible to somehow attach a monopod to the bag?

You'd have to attach this in the same place as the tripod above. The top strap would tighten enough.

[JaGWiRE]

The material on the bag is very tightly woven and doesn't seem to absorbe water all that well. Water tends to bead on the bag, but I'm not about to take it out an a tropical down pour to fully test it.



You'd have to attach this in the same place as the tripod above. The top strap would tighten enough.
Understood. It seems liek it'd hit the laptop though before your gear. I'm sure it's fine, and will do as good a job as my mini trekker (not sure if I'm going to keep it or not after I get this bag), I sometimes am walking in rain/snow, once and a while pouring rain, it shouldn't be too big of a problem though.
I only asked about the monopod, as with one leg, you wouldn't be able to do the same sort of slip one leg under and leave 2 legs ontop idea. If it'd tighten enough, that's great though.
I'm not sure about the computrekker, but the mini trekker has cords that you put your tripod through and then tighten on the front of the bag. These cords are a pain in the ass, and when I am walking places often get stuck (i.e. when in a subway station walking through the revolving thing). When strapped on, you cannot acess your gear with the mini trekker, and to remove the tripod takes time and a decent amount of effort because you have to untighten the cords and remove the tripod that is looped through the cords (if I am describing this properly.)
This bag seems pretty nice because getting the tripod on and off would be relatively simple and easy, and it wouldn't block acess to your gear because the main compartment opens from the back.

[Greg_C]

One of the problems accessing the gear with the tripod on the front is the fact you have to lay the bag down on this face to open the back up. It's going to be balanced on the two legs of the tripod.

On the issue of rain the water would hit the outside face of the bag and then go through this. It would then have to soak the inner shell to get through to the camera gear.

[JaGWiRE]

One of the problems accessing the gear with the tripod on the front is the fact you have to lay the bag down on this face to open the back up. It's going to be balanced on the two legs of the tripod.

On the issue of rain the water would hit the outside face of the bag and then go through this. It would then have to soak the inner shell to get through to the camera gear.
Right. I'm sure with some handy maneuvering you could gear your gear out though.
As for rain, it soudns like it'd have to go through quite a bit of a process to get to your actual gear.

[blackviolet]

i have the karachi outpost (amongst all of my other crumpler bags). it's my primary non rolling backpack now. i was out walking at ngong ping a few months ago in very heavy rain for close to an hour (socks were wet as were all of my clothes). there was no hint of moisture inside the bag at all. note that i did not have the laptop sleeve in the bag.

i wouldn't take it under iguazu falls (like i did with the rolling mini-trekker aw last year) but for me i'd be 100% comfortable with it in pretty much any rain i'm likely to encounter.

[JaGWiRE]

i have the karachi outpost (amongst all of my other crumpler bags). it's my primary non rolling backpack now. i was out walking at ngong ping a few months ago in very heavy rain for close to an hour (socks were wet as were all of my clothes). there was no hint of moisture inside the bag at all. note that i did not have the laptop sleeve in the bag.

i wouldn't take it under iguazu falls (like i did with the rolling mini-trekker aw last year) but for me i'd be 100% comfortable with it in pretty much any rain i'm likely to encounter.

Awesome. In Australia, is Crumpler very popular (asking, because it's an Australian company.)

[blackviolet]

yes it's very popular - especially for messenger and laptop bags. and yes, it's an Aussie company, however the Crumpler UK mob have split off and are no longer related. which is a shame, really as they have some very nice luggage...

[JaGWiRE]

yes it's very popular - especially for messenger and laptop bags. and yes, it's an Aussie company, however the Crumpler UK mob have split off and are no longer related. which is a shame, really as they have some very nice luggage...

Ah, so on the street it's not only photographers using their bags?

[blackviolet]

that's correct - photographers, travellers, students, messengers, office drones (like me), etc.
maybe i should use 'crumpler bags' as one of my weekly shooting tasks :)

[JaGWiRE]

that's correct - photographers, travellers, students, messengers, office drones (like me), etc.
maybe i should use 'crumpler bags' as one of my weekly shooting tasks :)
I'd be interested, hehe.
Glad to know that Crumpler is a sucessful company (or so it seems) and a lot of people are wearing their beautiful and well designed / made products.

[photo_genie]

Thanks all for your reviews of the Crumpler "The Whickey and Cox" bag.
I just looked at it and am heading back to the store with my old bag to see if all my gear will fit. So far, I found your reviews to be right on. I too, think the side zip pockets are a little hard to use, but think I will sew a nylon strap across each pocket so I can hang accessory pouches on the outside, creating a little more room for a water bottle or whatever. Just a suggestion:) As for rain, I think a rain hood or something like that will fit pretty well in one of the side zips.
I'm a fine art photographer shooting mostly B&W, so I still shoot film. I use a Hasselblad with an 80mm, a 120mm a 50mm and a 250mm lens along with several film magazines. I wear a belt with my filters, light meter and whatever else I think I need, but most likely don't:)
Thanks again for your reviews.

[_aravena]

Aside form it being a backpack, i was trying to see if the size is all that much more than a 7MDH. Of course this can hold all that and a laptop, still, it's a much more expensive bag for about the same size I believe. I guess it really depend son backpack or shoulder bag.

[aridan]

Aside form it being a backpack, i was trying to see if the size is all that much more than a 7MDH. Of course this can hold all that and a laptop, still, it's a much more expensive bag for about the same size I believe. I guess it really depend son backpack or shoulder bag.

I just sold my 7MHD and got the Whickey. Capacity wise, I'd say they are about the same (excluding the laptop factor). I was able to fit everything I had in my 7MDH into the Whickey, but had to distribute my odds and ends (filters, caps, remotes, readers, etc.) in various location. In short, they will hold about the same. The 7MDH may hold a tad more if you start stacking stuff on top of each other. But I needed the comfort and convenience of a backpack. I wish I could hold on to both, but given the high price tag of the Whicky, I was forced to let the 7MDH go. :(