10D fast, computer slow??

[karusel]

Finally got the tendee :D First I was a bit surprised by it's size, then I rapidly attached big ed which will stay connected :D. Regardless of my not too poor computer and analog/digital camera knowledge I feel lost with 10D like Michael Jackson with a woman, so I guess I'll read instructions manual for the first time in my life :mrgreen:

Anyway I was shocked by the godawful speed of downloading from CF, is it faster to download via cardreader? Does it have to be firewire?

Then, the RAW conversion... I have an AMD Athlon 1800+ with 512 MB RAM, but things just take too long. In the File Viewer Utility, every change - color, saturation etc. takes about 7-10 seconds to complete, saving TIFF also around 10 seconds... crikey, am I gonna have to go hunt for some new processor? Also, are there some better programs than this lame viewer which I find very... er... user unfriendly and inefficient?

P.S. Do you remember when you got _the_ camera? Any tips on how to get rid of that smile? :D

[5 Type]

The 10D is USB 1.1

USB 1.1 12Mbit/s
USB 2.0 480 Mbit/s
Firewire 400 Mbit/s

Question: USB 2.0 is faster than FireWire...right?
Answer: No, actually FireWire is faster than USB 2.0.

Question: Hold on...USB 2.0 is a 480 Mbps interface and FireWire is a 400 Mbps interface, how can FireWire be faster?
Answer: Raw throughput rating numbers alone don't tell the whole story, as explained below.

The throughput numbers would lead you to believe that USB 2.0 provides better performance. But, differences in the architecture of the two interfaces have a huge impact on the actual sustained "real world" throughput. And for those seeking high-performance, sustained throughput is what it's all about (reading and writing files to an external hard drive for example).

Architecture - FireWire vs. USB 2.0

FireWire, built from the ground up for speed, uses a "Peer-to-Peer" architecture in which the peripherals are intelligent and can negotiate bus conflicts to determine which device can best control a data transfer


USB 2.0 uses a "Master-Slave" architecture in which the computer handles all arbitration functions and dictates data flow to, from and between the attached peripherals (adding additional system overhead and resulting in slower, less-efficient data flow control)

Performance Comparison - FireWire vs. USB 2.0
Read and write tests to the same IDE hard drive connected using FireWire and then USB 2.0 show:

Read Test:
5000 files (300 MB total) FireWire was 33% faster than USB 2.0
160 files (650MB total) FireWire was 70% faster than USB 2.0

Write Test:
5000 files (300 MB total) FireWire was 16% faster than USB 2.0
160 files (650MB total) FireWire was 48% faster than USB 2.0

FireWire - Still the Performance King!
As the performance comparison shown above confirms, FireWire remains the performance leader. And is the best choice for DV camcorders, digital audio and video devices, external hard drives, high-performance DVD burners and any other device that demands continuous high performance throughput.

source : http://www.firewire-1394.com/firewire-vs-usb.htm

Bottom Line
If you ask me : I'll stay with a USB 2.0 card reader because it of it's versatility. I'm a PC user.

[AndyDe]

P.S. Do you remember when you got _the_ camera? Any tips on how to get rid of that smile? :D

Check for dust on the sensor & is it focusing ok ? :wink:

[karusel]

Nice try. But as long as I don't see dustspots on shots, I ain't checking el zilcho! :D Check focusing? You mean, shoot rulers... maybe later. I'll try to do a creative ruler shot.

[AndyDe]

Nice try. But as long as I don't see dustspots on shots, I ain't checking el zilcho! :D Check focusing? You mean, shoot rulers... maybe later. I'll try to do a creative ruler shot.
I've had my 10D for about a year & only had the dust once....changed lenses on a windy day in a field of seeding grass ! I got bored photographing rulers, they all look the same after a while :D

[RichardtheSane]

And the canon raw convertor is slow & clunky
I recommend breezebrowser or capture one.

[PacAce]

Finally got the tendee :D First I was a bit surprised by it's size, then I rapidly attached big ed which will stay connected :D. Regardless of my not too poor computer and analog/digital camera knowledge I feel lost with 10D like Michael Jackson with a woman, so I guess I'll read instructions manual for the first time in my life :mrgreen:

Anyway I was shocked by the godawful speed of downloading from CF, is it faster to download via cardreader? Does it have to be firewire?

Then, the RAW conversion... I have an AMD Athlon 1800+ with 512 MB RAM, but things just take too long. In the File Viewer Utility, every change - color, saturation etc. takes about 7-10 seconds to complete, saving TIFF also around 10 seconds... crikey, am I gonna have to go hunt for some new processor? Also, are there some better programs than this lame viewer which I find very... er... user unfriendly and inefficient?

P.S. Do you remember when you got _the_ camera? Any tips on how to get rid of that smile? :D

Hook up the 10D to the computer and enter your name into the camera via the Zoombrowser software. From then on every shot you take will have your name in the EXIF. Disconnect the camera and don't every hook it up again unless you want to change the name again or maybe play with the remote control software.

If you don't already have one, get yourself a firewire or a USB 2.0 card reader and download you images that way to the computer.

If you're going to be using FVU for converting RAW, just convert the RAW without changing any of the settings unless you're only doing it for a few files. If you're going to change the settings for each and every frame, you'll there forever. Just make the changes after the conversion in your photo editor.

Have fun!

[karusel]

Thanx for replies!

So, making changes in FVU is the same as editing (color, saturation...) in PS?

[hodad66]

the new PS CS works great with Raw!!

[Jesper]

Nice analysis of why Firewire is faster than USB 2.0, 5 Type...

But... It does not matter one bit if you get a Firewire or USB 2.0 card reader, because the speed will be limited by the read speed of the CF card. Even the fastest CF cards don't come anywhere near 400 or 480 Mbit/s (50 or 60 Mbyte/s).

Still a Firewire or USB 2.0 reader will have a significant speed advantage above the camera's USB 1.1, because CF cards *are* faster than USB 1.1.

[sweepiedog]

Do you remember when you got _the_ camera? Any tips on how to get rid of that smile?

Yeah. Drop it ! (like I did)